what's the tactical advantage of sitting on a huge stockpile of weapons for 8 years of conflict, never giving it to your own people, then leaving it to the enemy?
https://twitter.com/i/status/1653405851082711041
what's the tactical advantage of sitting on a huge stockpile of weapons for 8 years of conflict, never giving it to your own people, then leaving it to the enemy?
https://twitter.com/i/status/1653405851082711041
BS
damn wagner is running out of material
>arming 1mil with nuggets
can't fucking wait!
nugget is of perfectly good weapon comrade
gun is gun da
Red orchestra 2 weapons are unironically still viable
This is out of date lmao
So's your mom
This was made when the game first came out to show the lack of content. While the lack of weapons kind of made sense (it was only 1942-1943 time frame) the lack of AFVs was pretty stark. Their excuse was it took a long time to get the interiors modeled because they were so detailed, but I'm not sure how much I buy it. No T-60 no T-70 no Pz.III no StuG no SU76 no APCs, just really bare bones. They added PzIIIs T70s and APCs in later along with the MG42 and PPS42, but the tank maps were always so buggy and unpopular that it never really stuck. Sad fuckin times bro.
I wish these games weren't dead.
>video games aren't getting worse, you're just getting older--
please show bobs and vajrayana
because AK74s and M4A1s are much more useful. How's the supply of 45 APC, you think?
Dunno, having 45 acp in your own hands seem a lot more useful then in the enemy hands.
Meanwhile ukrainians have to train with wooden guns.
That was years ago
Ah yes the infamous Soledar stockpile hidden in the salt mines. Totally real and not just Wagner finding a reason for losing so many men on meme battles
>why yes why would the enemy use a natural cave to store its ammo on a controlled condition for later on?
trully baffling
>Why would the enemy who are in a pitched battle for survival and mass conscripting their population leave a shit ton of serviceable weaponry in a site which was fought over in an agonizing battle of attrition for months on end without moving them let alone distributing them to their forces
Truly baffling how fucking retarded vatmoron shills are
Vatmorons assume their enemy is as incompetent as the government that bombs its own cities accidentally
>moves in shit ton of ammo and weapon
>enemy moves faster than expected
>logistics cant conduct IPO
>anon is baffled as to why they cant move everything and instead calls it a fake
Occams razor, fucktard.
>enemy moves faster than expected
This has to be bait.
Iirc Russians took solidarity relatively quickly (moreover than other places during this war)
Yeah they also found 30 S-300's in that cave too right?
>enemy moves faster than expected
The Battle for Bakhmut has been going on for longer than Stalingrad. They're LITERALLY measuring gain ground in square metres.
>enemy moves faster than expected
lel
Soledar took months. They had time.
no it didnt both stalled due to heavy rain
yes some shelling happened but the russians were far away still
the actual battle lasted less than a month
why that much ammo tho
Because most of it is probably in antique calibers (and the number is exaggerated).
Ah yes just 300,000 boxes of weapons and ammo stored in an area they know they have a chance of losing. That makes perfect sense. Everyone stores 1 million weapons for 30k troops where the enemy will possibly capture them.
obviously because nobody moves ammunition close to the front lines right anon?
right?
Except this was the front lines and not a rear line supply depot...
>not just ammo but according to dollar store dirlewanger enough weapons to arm 1 million men
>Ukraine has only 30k in the area
>Ukraine has a history if pulling out of locations where they are being flanked
>area was always at a risk of being overrun at anytime for months.
I was going to say Dollar Store should be reserved for the D-Day, and we should use Downmarket Dirlewanger… but then I realized we had Downmarket-Garden with the VDV drop early on.
I'm no expert but I don't think the typical army moves its entire stockpile right at the frontline
>armies keep enough guns and ammo to field their current army multiple times over directly on the front lines in one spot
Plausible.
It's a salt cave. Imagine the rust.
Salt mines are actually quite dry, so if the equipment is stored in the most basic of ways. Such as in a box, it will hold nicely. Add a oiled cloth and that shit will last forever. The ammo would become questionable however.
>Ukraine had enough weapons combined with the political will to field 1 million men.
>but they didn’t for some reason
Alright.
vatnik prospector theory
Good thing Soviet commie fucks never lie.
>Wagner: Give us ammo or we're leaving Bakhmut
>Putin: Leave Bakhmut and you fall out a window
>Wagner:Go-Good news, guys. we found all the ammo we could ever want. We're not going to withdraw
>Puts weapons in a salt mine
Enjoy the rust.
>retard doesn't understand how rust works
1 million weapons
>Shows one box with covered insight
Russians when they find 80 year old munitions
Does he have 7.62x39 and 5.45x39 loaded into the same mag?
>ywn explore big old soviet mine after killing a bunch of PMCs to find a massive weapons stockpile
🙁
>Now that we can arm even more worthless meat waves with weapons from the 80's our fortunes will surely change!
The most hilarious thing about how fucked Russia is, is that they can't even lie their way into winning.
The only lie big enough to cover up this ass ramming they've received would be something like finding the Ark of the Covenant or a stash of Forerunner technology or some shit.
>Russians find stash of forerunner weapons, even a key to the Halo ring for ultimate MAD
>None of it will activate because the DNA key doesn't recognize them as human (forerunner)
343 games not canon confirmed!
Even if we assume the number is accurate (kek) it really depends on how much of that is useful modern munitions and how much is Soviet-era stock that have sat there for 40-50 years. I wouldn't say it's a total impossibility the Ukies got caught with their pants down and left too much when they retreated from Soledar but it's also really unlike to be a game-changer.
Simply controlling the sale mines for the sake of running their own ammo depot safe from AFU HIMARS might be more important than whatever was left over, but that really only becomes relevant if they can push Ukie lines back to Solvyansk and Kramatorsk which they don't show signs of doing anytime soon.
Can I see them?
hahahahahahahaha
I'm just waiting for the announcement that they found a Silmaril, The Arkenstone,and an entire army of Balrog's ready to fight for the Motherland
Ah the old quartermasters trick.
>2 layers of weapons, the rest underneath are rocks
нeaятy кeк
>Almost all weapon are Soviet!
>displays a crate of Tsarist era Maxim's
Soviets continued to produce PM.1910s until 1945.
And lend lease M1928 Thompsons...
>Lend lease WW2 equipment vs lend lease 2022 equipment
Unexpected kino
When is the lendlease P39 vs lendlease F-16 matchup
>And lend lease M1928 Thompsons...
ITS NOT FAIR
These are unironically probably the most useful, since they would be compatible with modern belted 7.62x54r. Modern GPMGs are compromises, and while these would be a bitch to move, they can lay down sustained fire better than any modern gun.
unless... these weren't issued because these are captured maxims that aren't chambered for 54r, such as the 1910/28. Which might make sense seeing how they were found next to a crate of Thompsons.
Its pretty fucking funny seeing him open a crate of thompsons and pull out a modern ak complete with red dot.
It kind of pains me that whenever i see these in action they always have them off of their tripods, which makes them less effective as HMGs which is really the only way these outshine modern guns.
Given that the russians are using human wave attacks across flat terrian it isn't like a good tripod mounted HMG would be an anachronism.
Ukraine already has them in service with some modernisation. There are even some examples of maxims combined to make aa such as pic related, for antidrone.
It is shit, by the way. The waste of ammo.
electronically controlled maxims showed up here and there. makes sense, can "fire forever" and just needs water.
Can these be water-cooled using pressurized tubes connected to larger reservoirs of water like Gaming PCs?
no, maxim was quite clear. water from snow, or piss only.
The twin-mounted water-cooled M2 Browning machine guns (picrel) had a hand-powered pump to do exactly that. You can see the crank handle in the photo as well as the two hoses (one the input, the other the output) used to circulate the water.
That looks like a New Zealand insignia on it.
Here's a photo of the other side of the "water chest".
I double-checked. They also made single-mount M2s with circulated water-jackets, as well as a higher-capacity water chest with a pump operated by two men (picrel).
>I will never find crates (even if it's just 3) full of full auto lend lease funs in some random fucking mine
why even live bros?
>fucking maxims
I mean, even assuming its true, fucking lol
I don't know, can you?
It's MAY I see them please, which is even funnier because Russians don't have manners
Maxim, ppsh, Thompson and Mosin as Prigozhin says. He's trying trade 2ww weapons for artillery shells.
great. Now Donbass Babushkas just have to make 1 Million breaktime snacks and the 2nd Russian army is complete!
>300,000 boxes
>shows like 6 boxes
Since Prigozhin found all this ammo (not a shell from spineless bureaucrat Shoigu), does that mean he will capture backmut before May 9th?
Strange, Bernie looks more healthy than Prigozhin
>Strange, Bernie looks more healthy than Prigozhin
Prigozhin hadn't "fed" that day.
As soon as he feed again, it'll be morbin' time.
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no that's just resting Russian face many such cases
>several months passed
>Russians NOW posting how they discovered huge stash of weapons(shows few crates)
You forgot
>Its fucking nuggets and maxims
Has anyone on the ukranian side been seen with those? I've only seen Russian conscripts woth them.
Ukraine utilizes maxims for static defense and for shooting down drones.
Most mosins seem to be in the hands of separatists meat shields because Russia for some stupid reason never bothered to give them adequate supplies from the get-go in 2014.
Honestly if they have ammo and aren’t rusted the maxims are serviceable. Not ideal, but a fixed MG emplacement hasn’t changed much.
More importantly using WWI maxims is cool as fuck so I don’t care.
Ideal for sustained fire though.
>5km long gallery 150m deep
????
May I see this gallery?
>box already open at start of video
>relatively new gun lying on top of the conservation paper
>rest is not shown
seems ligit Wagner bros
>Russia is excited about scavenging some maxim guns and mosins from a Ukrainian cave while Ukrainians are being armed with patriot missile systems and abrams tanks
This is the part people seem to have skipped over.
Can you imagine the US invading Afghanistan and then posting really happy pictures about how many British Enfields they found so that they can finally arm their troops?
It’s like a hobo finding a moldy sandwich in another bum’s tent and screeching with joy.
>300,000
Horseshit. If they were going to lie they should have said 300 crates or something. Anyways even if it was 300 they wouldn't be able to efficiently distribute it as they haven't managed to master pallets yet.
Russians cannot even lie properly
>300,000 boxes
May I see them?
maybe Pigozhin can now stop begging for ammo instead of posting propaganda? lol
These weapons are obviously cursed and were hidden away underground for a good reason. I seriously hope you guys don't consider using cursed Stalin era gun
These weapons are far older than Stalin.
>mobik finds three empty boxes that used to have guns in them
>exitedly claims to have found 30 boxes of guns
>wagnerite squat commander checks the cave, reports having found 300 boxes
>Prigozhin reports having found 3000 boxes
>Russian media reports 30,000 boxes
>Useful twitter idiot reports 300,000 boxes found
lel, accurate
Ah the good ole reverse garden gnome
Stalin era grain reporting
I thought their main issue was artillery?
foreign technology in the background (pallets) totally not staged it's real
>grabs one modern platform
>immediate jumpcut
It's all so obvious. Wouldn't even suprise me if all the other crates are empty.
That said, if not I don't see why this is a big deal. Ukraine has easy access to NATO weapons and Russia has millions of these weapons stashed away... right?
>I don't see why this is a big deal
Because Priggy has nothing to show in Bakhmut, so he needs to fill up airtime with something else
Jesus Christ he can't be this retarded. All of his videos so far he looks like a geriatric scifi channel enjoyer
What gun is this
Looks like a tommy gun.
Weren't some of the Thompsons sent to USSR Stemples in body kits?
You might want to go research the stemple again, pretty sure they weren’t a thing until post-nam at earliest.
I'm retarded. I misread. They took stemples, and then took ex Russian lend lease thompson shells, and married the two together.
My skim read effort translated into: "The Thompsons the Russians had were Stemples"
M1928 Thompson judging by the square receiver and top charging handle.
Disregard the retards ITT saying it's a Thompson. It's a PPS-41. Fucking tourists.
PPsh is unironically a very viable personal defense weapon you can give to non front line grunts
And the military police who got by on 38 WheelGuns can get a Nagant and that way more modern guns are saved for the front
Its a FAMAS
Lend lease Thompsons. US is now getting backstabbed again with our weapon supplies. Just like the mujahideen, iran, and the cartels
I can't wait for the video games about this war and all the crazy loadouts
>a fucking BERDAN
please tell me that came from a Ukie TDF unit... right?
Fun fact: The Ruskie who shot his local mobilization commissar did it with a sawed off M1870 Berdan-II rifle.
was it the 54r rechamber?
10.75×58mm
is there a video of the incident? Was there a big black powder smoke cloud?
There is video. But it's very low quality and hard to see any details like gun smoke.
How come this only happened literally one time?
I can guarantee you it wasn't the only one. The Russians aren't going to advertise how easy it is to blast a commissar to the masses
>The Ruskie
His name is Ruslan Zinin and he will not be forgotten, unlike those Russians that perished and continue to perish in Bakhmut.
https://en.zona.media/article/2023/04/02/zinin
Sovl. How can we get the UN to pass a resolution requiring all wars to be fought this way?
roll
>I want a tommy gun!
*one finger on the monkeys paw curls in*
You're drafted into the donbobwean militia and issued a tommy gun with a drum magazine. You don't get enough ammo to fill the drum and there is no telling if, when, or how you will get more 45acp when that is used up.
Also the supply guys messed up and you actually got a drum magazine for a PPSh.
and raped by chechens
Wait, did Russia get some old Lend Lease weaponry and then store them together and go
>look, we found loads of weapons!
Because why aren't we seeing every box opened?
>Wait, did Russia get some old Lend Lease weaponry and then store them together and go
It probably was some old Soviet armory in Ukraine filled with lend lease shit that was never issued.
>Pulls out tricked AK that's obviously not from the box
I laughed at that, but it quickly dawned on me that plenty of Russians are going to think it's real, because what other ways are there to store weapons than in Soviet-era wooden boxes? It's completely plausible to them that a tricked-out AK (with the holographic sight attached) is kept wrapped in brown paper in a wooden box, like it was stored back in the 1950s.
>Comes out the box with optics
Hmm
Is that an MLOK handguard?
>grabs modern weapon suHispaniciously on top of the paper
>lifts paper from the same box
>Thompson machine guns
>guy starts ruffling the paper of another box underneath
>"oh shit better not"
LMAO i bet all but those two shown boxes are empty too.
>300k crates of nuggets and nuggetfood
Gentlemen, I am assembling a team.
Ah shit. That is where i left them. Sorry guys, i had some communication issues with my sherpas.
Prigozhin sometimes likes to exaggerate a little
Is that supposed to pass as a real article?
They try to pass as real humans
They’re just now showing us captured stuff from Soledar?
And it’s almost all old stuff like Thompsons, PSS, PSS-43s, and Maxims?
Great stuff Wagner. I’m sure everyone in Kiev and NATO headquarters in Brussels are shivering at the thought of antiquated guns that have been in underground storage since at least the 1970s (judging by the Maxim box) is in the hands of Russia’s premier mercenary company near 4 months after it was capture.
This is going to be the fate of most if not all preppers stored wealth
Preppers are basically the rare drops of the post-apocalypse. Just pop one lolbert boomer and acquire an arsenal.
maxims and mosins? better than nothing i guess but jeez... imagine any ww2 veteran seeing this shit... 80 years later and still fighting with mosins and maxims.
>when you realize those are Thompsons
AAAAAAAAAAAA
>Capture Soledar 2.5 months ago
>They find this now
Sure.
>T.Vagine
Why are Indians the biggest consumers of Russian cum? or does that honor go to Serbs?
They hate the west and feel like their country with the most people on earth should be the leader!
Indians and Russians are brother nations soul bonded through their lack of indoor plumbing and love of turning literally any environment they occupy into a shitheap in days.
Does this mean Prigozin will now finally stop bitching about getting more ammo?
whooa 300k boxes and 400 boris johnsons and 1 gorillion S-300s bad day to be a pigger
It doesnt matter. 1st of all Russia probably cant even train their troops to use a weapon as sophisticated as a mosin so this entire stockpile is useless there are shovels they havent mentioned. 2nd of all Ukraine is incapable of fucking up and have lost zero engagements this entire war. 3rd of all Ukraine doesnt even need weapons or ammunition to win this war. 4th of all abrams and f-16s are on the way which means the war is already won. And 5th of all putler monke banan, you will never be a real man.
Lol, you're so pathetic. I bet you anything Prigozhin raided an old warehouse full of lend lease shit in Russia for this photo op.
>I bet you anything
Does that include your mom's boyfriend's pussy?
>mom's boyfriend's pussy
Looks like the AI took a shit.
The Chinese delivered and now they invent a story where they got the stuff from.
Anyway, did you know that
>Russia still hasn't captured Bakhmut
>Occupy town for several months
>Only show this now
Yeah, I believe it.
>Opens first crate
>Pulls out tricked AK that's obviously not from the box
What did he mean by this? I don't speak thirdie but it looked like him implied it was a good weapon from that specific crate?
>Timidly pens next crate, but doesn't show contents
Obvious trash is obvious
>Third crate
Maxims...fuck sake, I laughed out loud.
Picrel is a weapons find, not some dusty crates from the first world war.
what are those black tubes in the middle?
They are twinwall drainage pipes stuffed with Iranian ATGMs, bellow the drainage pipe are two examples of there contents.
thanks
Sushi
The ones he didn't show, you just see the charging handle, were Tommy guns 🙂
See:
>they just dumped everything overboard
should have at least just shipped it to Ukraine FFS
>>they just dumped everything overboard
Says who?
Odds are high that the glowies just redistributed those weapons to the groups they themselves support.
>Falling for the glowie version of the boating accident
yeah lmao Iranian mortars that got seized during transport were used by Ukraine
What the plastic jug is for?
Piss
Oil.
haha yeah, no need to ask further questions friend 🙂
>Obvious trash is obvious
>Maxims...fuck sake, I laughed out loud.
Look, a gun is a gun. If it shoots, it can kill. In good hands, even a bow can pose more danger than any new rifle put in the wrong hands. Russians know how to shoot, it doesn't matter which gun they are given: Maxim, Mosin, good old Tommy, Nagant. They are good at targeting and shooting.
it's like one of those gatcha/gambling games
the first (free) spin is always something nice but after that you get jack and shit
Oh my god. That's how mobile game loot boxes work.
>mfw Prigozhin starts talking about Raid Shadow Legends on the video
My theory is that it is real. Not enough weapons to arm a million men, but enough to outfit a small army, and Ukraine intentionally gave them to Prigozhin. Wagner is preparing to commit the age old strategy of any mercenary leader; when things start going sour, turn coat. Wagner is about to switch sides.
l would cum so hard if they stated killing Russians and we get a white movement all over again kek.
>A huge stockpile of weapons ?
>In this stage of the war ?
>Just when you told your chief you needed ammo ?
>Enough to supply X100 your men ?
>Located just under the city ?
No.
2 HATO generals also found in Soledar mines
And an entire HIMARS
sure man, is this why he keeps getting for more war material
when he grabs zenitco 74U(?) he says something like
>brand new stuff from soledar storage!
>just joking, its a present from my chechen friend
when he shows l-l thompsons he says he have 10k+ of them in good condition and when he shows maxims he says they have "incredibly high rof" (lol okay) and what they are still good enough. also mentions pps, ppsh and dp. looks like all the shit he have in that specific place is ww2 era, for ukrainians it probably wasnt worth it using most of it or even evacuating it. no idea wtf he meant by that video, its not like its good usable arty shells he begs for non-stop
>wasnt worth it using most of it or even evacuating it
>every gun is easily multiple hundreds of $
That's like treasure cove.
>for ukrainians it probably wasnt worth it using most of it or even evacuating it.
could've sold everything on ebay for some easy hryvnas
Thats just time wasted that could be spend killing vatniks. Also a single t90 capture is worth more then all of the stuff combined based on what has been shown so far.
Nice concern troll. Its obsolete ww1 era stuff, a heap of broken/rusted AK's, two broken recoilless rifles and a whole bunch of mosin stocks.
>B-b-but all those crates
This is propaganda. Do you really think they wouldn't show more if they had more to show?
Those Thompsons are probably in better state than the rusty AKs mobiks get.
wouldn't shit rust? why store arms in a rust creation zone?
Salt has moisture absorbing properties so salt on metal rusts it in time. But salt in a mine makes the air dry as it absorbs the airborne moisture. As long as you aren't rubbing the guns in the salt they're fine.
Given re-sale value in the US market and past Ukrainian corruption, I imagine any significant gun stockpile of this type would have been robbed years ago.
>resale in US
That ship sailed 55 years ago. These were behind the iron curtain and therefore locked away from picrel.
I’m surprised they don’t pick out the collectibles and fence them through a third party like Serbia
They could go for tons of money in the west
They already did, they are announcing it now since they sold them off. Announcing ti prematurely would lead to massive drop in the price. Use your fucking brain.
Salt mines are actually used as storage for documents, film stock.
One of the most famous examples of lost media is the director's cut of Event Horizon, which was found in a salt mine.
The directors cut of Event Horizon is forever lost because it was improperly stored in a salt mine you fucktard
It WAS lost but then it was found. The footage is just garbage and scribbled over with editor pen so it can't be used to release an editor's cut, but you can watch the footage. It wasn't the salt mine that damaged the film stock.
It's in Ukraine
>Ukraine rasputiza
they must be really fucking temp controlled for a damn snowman to survive in there without melting
Ain't no moisture in a salt mine lad.
Depends on the region, Americans still use plenty of caves thanks to their constant temperature. Though a lot of Hollywood media ended up in salt mines thanks to the proximity Hollywood
Why would I believe anything they say? They've been caught lying too many times
Also
>latest missile strike gets btfo
>turns out it didn't destroy 20 S300
>Hey guys we found 30.000 crates of ammo now after months of being in the mines, russia wins again!
That's just what they sent them, remember they were crying about lack of weapons and ammo, when there was documentation of it being sent. They're building this narrative to pretend it appeared magically. The source is a glavset account.
>ukraine getting fairly modern stuff from the west, even MBTs
>wagner gloating that they managed to capture some maxim guns and PPSHs
Lol, lmao
They didn't find shit, they were sent these weapons but they have to continue lying.
Well, it could be.
>Hey Look, I found a large enemy weapons stash 150 m underground a salt mine, from the soviet era
>And also in perfect working order, like it's brand new and never used.
>Also hey, I got one with a perfect optics, while my mobiks are going to get armed with mossins and tommy guns
>Oh yeah, Fuck Shoigu
All those great relics gonna be destroyed in the upcoming months in some shitty bakmut "offensive", instead of putting them into museums
Fuck russia
>implying they would've done anything other than continue to rot in some Soviet rainy day stash of firearms for human waves
>implying they exist
BREAKING
Ukrainian intelligence agents have published what allegedly is a call between Prigozhin and Putin on May 1st
>O Magnificent Macaque, Supreme Leader Monke, Glorious Gorilla, Greatest of Gibbons, Champion of Chimps! Please, if you only let my wife Ludmilla go I will never ask for another shell!
There are unconfirmed reports of Wagner militants previously thought to be operating in Africa having seized several shipments of fruit coming out of Nicaragua en route to Europe
Thompson, Papa Shah, PPS, Maxima, Maxima
Seems to be a bit more than just Mosin’s
>fagner find a cavern piled wall to wall with AT mines, demo and shells
>in middle is a nondescript box with "AIDS medicine" scrawled on it
>jackpot.slav
>open it
>"click"
>oh blya-
>Soledar Memorial Carp Lake is formed
>AIDS medicine
they wouldn't open it
ngl kinda jelly
Still only showing the same 3 crates lmao
That vid just shows a bunch of trash. Even the recoiless rifle was seemingly in need of repair.
the ukrainians put archangel stocks on all of their mosins and left the vatniks a bunch of TRASH
This is a whole lot of nothing so far. A bunch of broken-down AKs, stocks for Mosin-Nagants and a single launcher/recoilless rifle of some sort just sort of laying on the floor, probably because it's also busted. Oh and a shit-ton of crates, none of which are opened on screen. I'm sure they might find something useful once they shift through a ton of crap, but so far it's not terribly impressive.
Ukraine once again fucking up. They could (and should have) blown all of that.
>you will never open a lootbox and get a factory fresh thompson
the pain i feel is beyond words
Assuming that's all real, they'd be better off trying to figure out some way to sell those guns back to Americans. A real deal Thompson in that condition is probably worth at least $50k.
A real deal Thompson can't be imported. The best they could hope for would be contracting with a company in the US to make new receivers/barrels and modify the bolts for semi auto, then send them over as parts kits without the original receivers/barrels.
m1a1 thompsons too
this footage reminded me of Family Guns on NatGeo. buying crates of old weapons and finding them not rusty and seeing their reactions was peak sovl.
Aren't these worth an actual fucktonne? They could sell these for massive money.
Registered in the US, sure.
But it's going to be costly to get them there and get them legally registered.
Russian propaganda is getting more and more retarded
>we destroyed SIXTEEN S300 with one missile
>we looted so many rifles we can arm ONE MILLION men
>we destroyed SIXTEEN S300 with one missile
>we looted so many rifles we can arm ONE MILLION men
What is this a fucking douchetuber video? What's next?
>we found 5 billion dollars of Ukrainian Aid hidden in bakhmut!!!!
Do you think these are weapons Ukraine left in the salt mine, or is this an excuse for Russia sending Wagner old lend-lease weapons from WW2?
Why didn't ukrainians just mine the entire place or put it on fire before escaping from there? It's not like they are ever getting these mines back and continue to dig there, why not just blow it all up and don't let the enemy have all these guns which musicians can and most likely will use now in Bakhmut?
So why is he still complaining about ammo and weapons?
>t. vagina
WHEN WAS SOLEDAR TAKEN?
WHY IT TOOK THEM SO FUCKING LONG TO FIND THIS SHIT?
RUSSIA, EXPLAIN YOURSELF!
They finally managed to push the morloks deep enough into the mine that they could access the WW2 era weapons storage facilities
Does anybody have any real information on this situation?
>literal crate contents
Ukes clearing trenches with Tommy Guns and Vatniks doing the same with PPSh-41. It's as if we time traveled back to 1943
Crate contents
UUUUUOHHHHHHHH!!!! crate erotic!!!! antique pistols and holsters!!!! erotic ... ToT ToT ToT
>huge stockpile
I know Prig has been crying over the lack of supplies, but surely these few crates of antique weapons doesn't deserve a propoganda video and shilling on Z Twitter
>surely these few crates of antique weapons doesn't deserve a propoganda video and shilling on Z Twitter
It's all they have at this point. Anything remotely positive they will clamber towards it.
There is a HUGE amount of cope in this thread. They are weapons. Weapons are always useful. Ammo is always useful. Ukraine should have blown the depot when it was going to be overrun. Not hope that the Russians wouldn't find it. Now Wagner has more small and medium arms to throw on recruits and more ammo to spend. Meanwhile Ukraine is being pushed out of Bakhmut and the counter-offensive is nowhere to be seen.
>HUR DUR VATNIK
Fuck off. You can think Ukraine has done bad and dumb shit and are contiuning to do bad and dumb shit and don't have the supplies needed to do what they need to do. Everybody is going to either 1. Be surprised when the counter-offensive doesn't happen or 2. Be surprised when it does happen it is either a) not registered because very little is gained (see Russian offensives) or b) nowhere near what is required is taken.
Meanwhile we're all twiddling our thumbs waiting for the Bongs to break yet another taboo so we can send some proper stuff to Ukraine. Because France and Germany et al will be kvetching over long range munitions. So while the Bongs get that going (and they already are starting, making a brand new medium-long range missile) we're going to have to wait for that before we can send ATACAMS etc.
Then we'll have to wait for the bongs to hand over a Tornado jet or something before we can equip the Ukrainians with F-15E's and F-16's like they should have been trained on since last April. But no. Outside of 'we totally are training thousands of them' twitter posts I see no evidence of this happening.
Tank is tank, comrade.
are these bot replies? did you even read his post?
I did. Its just has the typical a hallmarks of a vatnik shillpost embedded in the post.
>I'm pro Ukr but they really messed up
>Spring offensive when???
>Big comeuppance for Russia
>Muh twitter
We? I don't think Serbia is part of any we involving France, Germany or the UK.
> There is a HUGE amount of cope in this thread.
The fact that shills made this thread at all IS a huge cope.
>They are weapons. Weapons are always useful.
If the invading army is so fucked that finding a cache of ww2 shit is going to be a difference maker on the battlefield, they’re absolutely fucked. If the Russians were like an Arab militia this would be significant.
Not to mention that basically all of this is Wagner threatening Moscow after Moscow stopped giving them shit.
>Ammo is always useful.
Ammo that works is even more so
>Ukraine should have blown the depot when it was going to be overrun.
Implying they knew about the “depot” at all.
Implying it existed at all.
>Not hope that the Russians wouldn't find it.
Oh no the invaders have maxim guns now. This changes everything.
>Now Wagner has more small and medium arms to throw on recruits and more ammo to spend.
According to someone making a power play against Putin.
>Meanwhile Ukraine is being pushed out of Bakhmut
Lel
>and the counter-offensive is nowhere to be seen.
Just relax comrade there is no counter-offensive to worry about. Russia wery stronk and everythink great
I for one am happy to know we will be getting more irl RO2
We should counter by sending Ukraine ww2 guns
for as much aid as we give them they should stream 24/7 from the front lines and have to read viewer comments between shellings
>we
Post passport
>Weapons are always useful
Submachine guns fell out of favor because of their extremely limited range, and even when they were used frequently needed to be used alongside rifles because of that issue. The Thompson in .45 ACP is the worst possible option among them to press into service today, before considering that Russia doesn't even produce ammo for it. If Russia actually resorts to using those, then the situation for them is extremely dire since that would mean they've even burned through their supply of AKs to issue and even their supply of superior submachine guns in 7.62x25mm that they produce ammo for.
>Because France and Germany et al will be kvetching over long range munitions.
Both said they will not do it alone. Which is sensible.
The problem is a political one. If Ukraine gains long range weapons, they will attack targets in Russia, everything else would be stupid. To survive, they have to do everything they can.
But then Russia gets directly attacked and that can't be sold in the west and it would give Putin all the support he needs in Russia.
Right now it gets harder and harder to sell the war as it is every day.
Sucks for the Ukraine, but that is what it is, the west must keep the higher "morale" ground.
BTW, i totally agree with you, you can not criticize Ukrainian tactics or strategy without getting called a tankie or vatnik. It sucks for the few of us that would like to discuss.
The West need to get over this idea that Putin is going to be overthrown by outraged Russians against the war.
Culturally Russia does whatever their leader tells them to do because they are convinced they cannot fight back.
And most of the ones who would want to fight back are the same ones who are pissed at Ukraine.
Part of the problem with this war is that the West still is desperately trying to find "The Good Russian" who will help them go back to buying gas from Russia instead of the US and Asia.
>Meanwhile Ukraine is being pushed out of Bakhmut
You have to stop obsessing over some shitty town we only talk about because it's funny how long the battle is taking, if you wanna be taken seriously instead of everyone immediately recognizing your bait
Salt mines, you say?
for a mine there sure is a lot of light bleeding in from outside
why am i getting sweaty ben vibes?
>pulls out one his bodyguards rifles and gives it back to him
the casual viewer thinks those crates are full of modern akms lol
>only guns they show are old soviet mgs that look like museum pieces from the american civil war
those crates are full of sks and nuggets arent they?
> those crates are full of
You can see that they're full of M1928 Thomposns that the US gave Russia during WWII.
>there are still crates of mosins and maxims
I'm pretty stunned at this myself. I didn't think a scrap of Lend-Lease was left.
Unironically woth the amount of tailings bunkers and underground factories, i would not be surprised if theres a fucking archive of wmds or a mini D6 under Bakmut at this point
so what have they got? don't speak russian but i'm hearing:
>thompsons (M1928A1? they have the charging handle on the top it looks like)
>PPSh
>PPS
>Maxim (PM-1910)
>Pulemyot Degtyaryova (DP-28?)
any russian speakers itt? did he mention anything else?
sounds like a helluva haul, but nothing especially useful in anno domini 2023
>but nothing especially useful in anno domini 2023
If it shoots lead it is better than nothing. If anything rear guard troops can have em to free up weapons for the frontline troops.
That being said it is hilarious to see russia armed with weapons that their grandparents would have used. I don't see russias military prestige recovering within the next century because this is just ridiculous
They've got a bigger problem on hand if they can't supply their troops with enough rifles. I know we meme'd about the state of the AKs coming out of storage, but if I start seeing images of these getting pressed into service in significant numbers I'm going to fucking lose it
Can I see them? Can I get a wide angle photo? Don't they have phones? Lel
American Death Star found! Not underneath Red Forest as originally believed by top Russian scientists.
You know it's real because only several months passed since they took Soledar. Remember when Russians took over Lysychansk and needed a week to prepare "captured" vehicles? All of which turned out to be captured weeks and months ago into completely different places
>Prigozhin says
honest question how did they just find those now?
didn't they sweep the mines when they captured them a few months ago?
They needed time to move those boxes in. Prigogine is giant media slut
They most likely weren't found, they were moved in. Also most of the boxed moved in would be empty just as props for the spectacle.
Lmao that account. The Russians are still holding onto their biolabs narrative?
The idea there are secret soviet weapon caches hidden all over Ukraine that the Russian troops are using like video game pickups is kind of funny.
But, reality probably shitty propaganda to cope with arming troops with this stuff.
I wonder how much of the ammunition detonates instead of conflagrates.
Capturing western opponents ammunition is often not safe at all.
>w.... we're not out of modern weapons!!!! we're only arming soldiers with 60 year old equipment because Ukraine gave it to us for free!!!!
lmao
Maxims, Mosin rifles and PPSh-41s. Soledar mines were used to stockpile old WW2 infantry firearms. No ammo, no artillery shells, no rockets or anything remotely useful to current conflict. Yes, Russians are going to make a buck by selling all that stuff to antique vendors.
Cope is the new phrase vatmorons use when people call out their bullshit
>6 gorillion dead piggies mmmmm *~~) youre coping if you think Im wrong *~~*~~))
i support the unprovoked russian aggression against ukraine.
who wouldn't be happy to find a cave of crates filled with thompsons and maxims?
Shills need to counter each others narratives. Pulling prefect condition WW2 weapons out of storage is a pure PrepHole Wet dream. Not a great victory like Russians are pretending but neither is it all useless garbage.
>source: a random indian on twitter
SIRS!!!!
PrepHole be like
>hahaha! They found MOSINS and MAXIMS to fight against the ukranians with! Hahaha how stupid! Theyll NEVER win using such old and useless technology!
PrepHole also be like
>im gonna defeat the US government with my obscure milsurp and mosin nagant! Moldy labia! Come and take it!
So the US is prepared to flatten its own cities?
>im gonna defeat the US government with my obscure milsurp and mosin nagant! Moldy labia! Come and take it!
yes
>Women, men and children fight
>They were dying side by side
>And the blood they shed upon the streets
>Was a sacrifice willingly paid
NTA but
>proof? this sabaton song tee hee!
How to say you're not old enough to legally buy cigarettes without explicitly saying so lmao
>not old enough
fuck off even my steam account is of legal drinking age
what you need to understand here is that these are two opposing nations fighting one another, this is not a civil war, there won't be russian partisans acting against the ukrainians or their army. the Ukrainians are both the partisans and the army in their own nation. these are limited value for modern mechanized infantry, presenting logistical constraints for large scale ammunition supply to the wider army.
you are strategic thinkinglets
a better question is 'what will the ruskies do with it all' because it's a bunch of dinosaurs
>auction on private grey/black markets for numismatic value, evade import bans by channeling through second parties? cash siphon for grey/black ops?
>issue to backline militias (training purposes, run through the corrosive ammo to teach greenhorns to tame their giggle switches?) freeing modern weaponry for the front?
>a fresh fire sale to Africa of the automatics, because whoever's buying don't know better?
>actually equip Wagner's penal troop chaff with the shit? (they're not supposed to sustain combat, just screen, pressure, eat shells and possibly worm away to do it again to let actual PMC men operate, for which basketfulls of thompsons and 70-80+ year old ammo may be sufficient with their high turnover rate)
If this is real, wouldn't it be an incredible treasure trove? Thousands of antique, mint weapons?
Oh, so I guess the Russian MoD doesn't need to supply Fagner anymore, seeing as the Fagnerites "found" all this free gear.
>https://twitter.com/i/status/1653405851082711041
>Unlike the West - which is a 'temple' of propaganda and lies, - the Russians usually say the truth or nothing at all!
Seems like it is a comedy account.
Why is PrepHole making stuff up? Wagner never claimed the modern ak was actually found in the warehouse
I love how they got every Kremlin embarrassment thread off while keeping this one. So much effort
Ive been on PrepHole too long. I swear from the thumbnail that was some guy shoving his hand in a horse's vagina from the side.
I can't unsee it either.
Morning /mlp/.