What's the tactical advantage in invading a neighbouring country to annex them so they can't join NATO, which turns out to be the one course of action that drives your other neighbour, with a much more advanced army and historical experience in slaughtering Russian invaders, to apply for NATO membership?
Turkish parliament just ratified Finnish accession to NATO. Turkey was the last member state that needed to do that, so Finland is now officially joining NATO.
Finland has a 1200 kilometre border with Russia.
Lol.
Lmao, even.
>Finland and sweden adopting sako made AR pattern rifle
GOOD
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Sako is owned by beretta and they push for ARX160
It's a 5D chess move from 9000 years into the future for the benefit of future civilizations. We won't understand in this lifetime.
are you literally braindamaged vatnik?
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Putin didn't really invade because muh NATO, and he hoped that it would be a fast war(spoilers: It wasn't) and that the West wouldn't react(spoilers: It did).
Holy shit it all came true.
Chimputin is real.
Anatoly Karlin was the archetypal edgy russia stronk imperialist vatnik who got mindbroken so hard by the reality check that he's now laughing at other vatniks for not being equally doompilled.
The NATO excuse is just for the media
there is
>petrol and gas of Ukraine which would have replaced rissian
>A water way to crimea
>excuse to undemocratize a country
I know, they just want to be imperialist dickholes because chimputin started getting high on his own supply of propaganda. Finland joining NATO still helps against this moronation.
It helps no one, we're literally one step away from nuclear Armageddon
No one is invading Russia. If monke wants to flip the table and nook because his war of aggression is going poorly, then so be it. Appeasement is not an option.
we have been for over a year now, two more red lines until nuking of Washington
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKS
If Russia is literally willing to go nuclear over them LOSING in Ukraine, than this is the best time to wipe the entire Russian people off the face of this Earth. Because if Russia is willing to go nuclear due to their own frickups in Ukraine, they will likely use their nuclear stockpile for something even stupider in the future if we don't retaliate now. It's why the West isn't letting Russia's nuclear threats influence our aid to Ukraine, because any country that threatens nuclear Armageddon has to be unilaterally wiped off this planet before they do something stupid.
You can fricking bet that if Russia went nuclear, even tactical, in Ukraine, that even China and Iran would abandon them in a heartbeat, especially since China technically has a responsibility to protect Ukraine from nuclear attack due to that treaty in the 90s that removed Ukraine's own nuclear weapons.
>China technically has a responsibility to protect Ukraine from nuclear attack due to that treaty in the 90s that removed Ukraine's own nuclear weapons.
I agree with you, but I'd be loath to trust the Chinese on anything besides how good dog tastes.
True, but I think even in this scenario China would abandon Russia in a heartbeat at the very least, if not gladly contribute to an invasion of their own.
A Russia that uses nukes in Ukraine instantly become a pariah state throughout the world and will be known as such for decades with the societal and economic implications from such following them for likely centuries. A country so foolish as to use nuclear weapons after being beaten from an invasion that they themselves started. If people think the sanctions and shit are bad now, imagine when even the most corrupt shit hole in Africa abandons Russia and even organized crime does everything in its power to get the frick out of Russia. It would be a shitshow unlike anything in all of human history where the entire world banded together to eliminate a huge threat to world stability.
The Chinese certainly are not to be trusted, it's more that Russia nuking Ukraine would put China in a very difficult position.
They'd either have to go to war with Russia or lose lots of face.
Oh nooo, just one step? If Armageddon didn't seem to fricking move further away every time we're one step away, we'd be in real trouble guys!
Ukrainian AA is saturated now so Russia will have to spend a significant part of it's arsenal to guarantee decisive hits. This has 2 consequences:
1) Losing nuclear parity because of a civil war (as they still consider Ukraine their rightful claim)
2) Ukraine restoring some of the downed warheads and becoming a nuclear state again. Take into account they may get the warheads *cough* somewhere else but still make legit claims about getting them from russia. Considering the proximity of the Donetsk and russian nuclear stations to the Ukrainian territory, the millions of russians and their puppets will die in a nuclear holocaust.
>MUH NOOOOOOOKS
kys wristlet
>undemocratize
You know the US government staged a color revolution using the old 'Dominion Special' a few years back and installed a israelite that is hostile to Russia, right? The US government is, and has been for many decades, the evil empire.
Sorry, you know that Ukraine has had 3 different presidents since 2014, and Zelensky is the pro-russian appeasement candidate, right? Dude's a Russian-speaker.
Zelensky was elected in 2019, long after the Maidan, under a "lets be friends with Russia", while the then president and the guy he was running against Poroshenko is an ultranationalist oligarchy using his personal wealth to make technicals to the AFU which he calls "Bandera-Mobiles".
> the guy he was running against Poroshenko is an ultranationalist oligarchy using his personal wealth to make technicals to the AFU which he calls "Bandera-Mobiles"
based. that’s all I can say on the matter at the moment.
>globohomosexual rigged the election against a gigachad vatnik removing technical salesman with their interdimensional goblin hacking satellites
is there no end to their crimes
>Turned a country that tended to like you into one that hates you only slightly less than Baltics and Poland do
>Turn the guy who was a moderate who wanted to negotiate with you into billy-badass who wants you humiliated and buckbroken.
>Ended Finlandization in one fricking year.
This is legitimately the biggest foreign policy frickup since 1939.
It could be the biggest foreign policy frickup since Kaiser Wilhelm decided, "Let's piss off and pick fights with literally all of our historical allies because my childhood was extra shitty"
>Turned a country that tended to like you into one that hates you only slightly less than Baltics and Poland do
Oh no, they hate them much more now. Russia gave Ukraine a founding myth and a genetic gathered of anything Russian for generations.
Color revolutions are possible only with population support, therefore they are just the variations of democratic process. That's why Putin admitted the legitimacy of the first president after Maidan and that's why he needs force to control ukrainians now.
>Verification not required.
And what does that have to do with Russia being evil?
Ok. Let's check Putin's reasons to start this shitshow of a war
>denazification
Azov is still there. Now western "heroes"
>demilitarization
Ukraine is now one of the most equipped and trained armies in the world.
>Stop NATO expansion.
NATO was going to die by their own. It was a matter of decades. But now? More countries inband others even waiting.
Putin, my brother... What the frick have you done?.
The denazification part is especially funny, since they even released the Azov officers, including the ones supposed to be executed.
I enjoyed how much their shills like couldn’t avoid being cartoonish hypocrites that wanted to like denazify Ukraine and kill all the israelites pulling the strings. Seething antisemites screeching about fighting the Nazis was funny
Just think if you told someone a mere 5 years ago that Finland would be in NATO. No one would fricking believe you.
I would have since 2014. There support wasn't there yet, but I knew it was coming as Russia would continue to frick around eventually and they did.
Primary objective was always to demolish Ukraine, if a quick coup in Kiev wouldn't work out.
Does this mean no more 7.62x39?
they're never giving it up
They can't be surplused by law so they're going into deep storage (probably not that deep given the times we're in)
They are led by woman now
If it was ever time to strike it is now
Check'em?