What's the Sugma-pp missile speed? This shot takes forever to close the distance.

What's the Sugma-pp missile speed? This shot takes forever to close the distance.

Anyway, it looks like an extremely effective weapon all around. Tanks, personnel, APC, helis, mraps

https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/1721540306745590117

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    250-300 m/s as most ATGMs, gun launched can be far faster.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      200 m/s https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%9F

      So about 5km in this case
      Respectable

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's pretty much the max effective range of the system, so not impossible.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    200 m/s https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%9F

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/1721540306745590117
    WEBM.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      thank you webmanon

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ah yes, Stugna, the best AEGM (anti-everything guided missile) and the true successor to flak 88

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God remember the kino of the helicopters shot down

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most ATGMs are relatively slow compared to cannon fire.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stugna-P seems like the obvious winner in any ATGM duel, Russians have to physically man the Fagot but Stugna-P being remote has the advantage of having the crew be in safety.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Javelin does have a direct fire mode but it'd be a waste to use on an atgm team

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Javelins have literally been used to take out solitary snipers in GWOT.
        (Yes I didn't believe the CLU could lock on to body heat against durkastan background either until I've seen the videos.)

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Javelins don’t lock onto heat

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The US has a lot more Javelins to waste then Ukraine does, but I do think a ATGM team would be a worthy target if you've got nothing else to reach them.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cost of killing them pales to the cost of not killing them. TZD.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most wire guided or beam riding ATGMs are pretty slow, watch some Konkurs/Fagot/Metis/Kornet videos from Syria etc., they take forever to get to target from anywhere near max range.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    0:43 Love how he actually tells me info on which site the Ts are. I thought of rotating to B but that info probably won us the round.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Ziggers have Kornet-EM with a longer range, but I'd love to see the operational results from the two systems along with weight, set up time, cost per unit, and so forth.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    NGL that's a remarkably calm ATGM, any of the SACLOS missiles I've seen until now were wobbling like crazy.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly I’m not impressed. The starstreak is also saclos guided, has a longer range, and moves 4x as fast.

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