It seems useless from a military standpoint to me, but I assume that's wrong and I'm moronic, because we did it in Baghdad. So what does it accomplish?
It seems useless from a military standpoint to me, but I assume that's wrong and I'm moronic, because we did it in Baghdad. So what does it accomplish?
Military radars are powerful. They need electricity. Their electrical generators consume a lot of diesel fuel.
So powering them from a civilian grid at first is a common solution. Remove the grid and you start their logistics clock.
>radars in the field are being plugged into houses
with what, a realllly long extension cord? lmfao
>in the field
Like counter-arty radars? No. Like national airspace monitoring radars and large SAM sites.
Source: Gulf War 1
Yes, you are moronic.
already told you, if the million things that need power, don't have a grid, they will be forced to burn ungodly amounts of fuel to keep shit on. Not to mention it comes with the added benefit of destroying the economy and disrupting civilian life in general.
I am honestly surprised it took them this long to start doing it. They have to keep it up long term for good effect though.
Yeah you're moronic
Trains. Communications. Industry.
Literal Palestinian terror tactics. Be as annoying to civilians as you can to save a tiny bit more face while your people get btfo’d for generation after generation
This must have been terribly annoying for the civilians down there. In total war they are always a valid target, don't cry about it just because it's not your side doing it. I would have done it on day one of this half assed invasion. Thats the only way to win, with nothing held back. With the raids and drone strikes inside Russia proper I would have used nukes already
>total war
>special military operation
You can’t have both, moron.
>do you want total special military operation?!
Yeah, everyone knows what it really is. Like I said bullshit half measures. Putin calls it a special operation. The United States called it nation building in Afghanistan and Iraq. Everyone does it and it never works.
>This must have been terribly annoying for the civilians down there.
I mean that's all it is. Terror bombing didn't work during WWII and it won't work now. It just pisses off the population and ensures they won't surrender (cf. Nips, Germans, Vietcong and so on and so forth).
Ukrainian industry is irrelevant in this word since it gets its equipment from abroad so those PUCCIA untermenschen don't even have that excuse for this.
Wrong. Bombing worked wonderfully. It destroyed Germany's ability to resista and build more wespons of war, particularly when It began the target energy sector.
>It destroyed Germany's ability to resista
Ah, riiiiight, because it's not like "resistaed" all the way until the last blocks of Berlin were encircled, right? Fricking moron.
>build more wespons of war,
Not sure what "wespons" are but if you dipshit could read you would have seen that I preempted that stupid argument by pointing out that it's not Ukraine's arms industry that supports them but the West's. Even reducing every single factory there to rubble wouldn't stop the inflow of military equipment.
Burning down the enemy farms to frick up their economy has been a legitimate tactic since antiquity.
In december you will have cannibalism in the cities. People will demand russian peacekeepers. Its going to be utter chaos
Red cross and other NGOs would get there. Last fricking thing russians need is the "international community" snooping around there least a stray russian rocket kills a bunch of red cross nurses.
>In december you will have cannibalism in the cities.
>People will demand russian peacekeepers.
for dinner you mean?
OP is a confirmed Ukrainian.
What gave it away? The moronic part?
It can achieve a few things:
>Force the military to provide it's own power source in urban areas, expending fuel
>Demoralize civilians
>Potentially cut off the water supply
>Disable some lines of communication
Granted none of these are issues that can't be resolved, it's still another thing that needs to be taken care of.
When you are Monke your natural response is to ape out and cope
>What's the point of taking out power grids?
"The object of torture is torture. "
>To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
It's helpful in concert with an invasion to confuse the enemy and degrade their C2. But it is a somewhat temporary solution because damage can be repaired in relatively short order. If there's no forces ready to take advantage in the confusion it is of limited effect from a military standpoint. Military infrastructure designed to operate separate of the civilian powergrid for the most part.
>use your limited and dwindling supply of guided missiles to hit civilian targets in a temper tantrum over battlefield defeat.
>Somehow this will win the war because it is mean and thus hardcore.
Germans tried this with way more explosives than Russia can deliver on England and it didn't work with 1940s tech. You can't just hit a power of water plant with a missile and call it a day. For one, they are having to use multiple missiles for each target due to accuracy issues. Second, think of hurricanes. Manhattan lost power during Sandy. The major transformer for the island exploded. Thousands of miles of underground wire got flooded with salt water.
Power was up in three days. Some of this shit is already fixed. Unless you have thousands of missiles and can launch this sort of strike nightly for months on end all it is is a propaganda bit for the home front to show how your gloves are off. If anything, it makes the enemy less likely to seek peace.
Peace partisans will get more power politically if you just sit behind your lines, offering to end the bloodshed, and make their side keep mounting costly attacks.
Basically, this shows your average /misc/ poster is in control, not students of history and good military leaders. Now you don't have guided missiles to hit arms shipments.
>use your limited and dwindling supply of guided missiles
For how many months has it been dwindling and limited? I forget.
Practically from the start of the war. They're obviously not ever going to run out, they won't use their very last missile on Ukraine, but with each one they launch, their supplies grow smaller with no real way to replenish them because many of them rely heavily on foreign tech. They already had to begin resorting to anti-ship and anti-aircraft missiles for ground attack a long time ago. They have used "Kinzhal" hypersonic missiles even when they have no real tactical advantage. That's because they don't have enough missiles to keep launching. These things are very expensive.
This latest batch were SLCMs or a portion of them were, so it certainly seems like theyre scraping together whatever they can
>with each one they launch, their supplies grow smaller with no real way to replenish them because many of them rely heavily on foreign tech. They already had to begin resorting to anti-ship and anti-aircraft missiles for ground attack a long time ago. They have used "Kinzhal" hypersonic missiles even when they have no real tactical advantage
Or it's a bunch of bullshit, and they were just trialing the Kinzhal.
Terrorism.
Here's to hoping that it finally forces that kid-sniffing Black person in the White House to no longer block the bipartisan motion to declare R*ssia a state sponsor of terrorism. If Pootin was kvetching about sanctions before, he'll be straight-up screaming after that.
>bipartisan motion to declare R*ssia a state sponsor of terrorism
Links? Because, Congress can do that shit without the President. they just don't have the balls or the will power.
Sauce it or shut the frick up.
>Sauce
Ever heard of that thing called Google, Black person?
>https://www.voanews.com/a/biden-says-no-to-appeals-to-designate-russia-a-state-sponsor-of-terror/6734357.html
It was a bipartisan effort by senators:
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/07/politics/biden-russia-state-sponsor-of-terrorism-cnntv/index.html
Here is the resolution itself:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-resolution/623/text
The senate already agreed to it.
It means Russia has given up on trying to conquer Ukraine and is trying to get them to the negotiating table
To negotiate Okrainian surrender, yes.
>stop power
>freezer stops working
>enemies' tendies go bad
>they starve
It messes with their logistics, their economy, and their population. It gives them troubles that have to be resolved, usually at the expense of significant amounts of time and resources.