I am a noguns europoor who knows little about firearms but from what i ve seen and heard most 3d printed guns are semi automatic and you are printing just the body while the mechanism is metal.
So why not just carve it out of wood and try to diy a bolt action or even semi automatic based on time tested designs?
You ll probably be able to use a higher caliber and you re also not going to get cancer from filing magazines all day long.
What I am actually asking is if there is any pdf you can share with me on how to build an m1 garand.
PDF?
Your best bet is to get a technical data package and have a functional machine shop.
T. Machinist
how did they build guns back then?
i doubt that they had cnc machines and even if they did it would probably be avoided by how wasteful it is
did they weld them, forge them or press them into place?
They were milled. Stamping and pressing were 20th century innovations
What's the difference between milling and stamping?
The first is a block of steel that is carved by a drill and the latter is a plate of steel that has been bent by an industrial press
imagine a massive array of machines designed to take a jigged part and perform a handful of operations then shuffle it down the line
It’s called a Mill, they have been around for about 200 years, lathes have been around for longer.
Before that they hand forged pieces and used files.
could you send me an example of those machines
to me mills seem like a pretty complex technology
https://www.ebay.com/itm/393834904369?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=393834904369&targetid=1490629658100&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=9010791&poi=&campaignid=19851828444&mkgroupid=145880009014&rlsatarget=pla-1490629658100&abcId=9307249&merchantid=6296724&gbraid=0AAAAAD_QDh-VRDUKboNEX1blISnOhFa3Y&gclid=CjwKCAjwyeujBhA5EiwA5WD7_ceiBYXEIo_gJ4wP2RpG9KdMkLNOJr3nnAf5vEXNOfgBArjL2QIxIBoCcakQAvD_BwE
Here is one for $5000
Bear in mind that is the cost of the mill, it doesn’t include the cost of tooling, collets & perhaps most important of all precision measuring equipment; calipers, micrometers, gauges.
Let me know when someone carves a functional semi auto handgun frame
Almost 2 years ago, dumbass.
By “functional” I mean it will actually last thousands of rounds and can withstand corrosion/rotting
Just fricking oil it
Ah the Block.
I actually prefer the more square version. I think it's funny.
That works?!?
Well for one I imagine the plastic is a lot lighter, you make it once right you can get the machine to print you an exact copy of another one with no human error in between
It does the work for you so you can get busy with other things thus saving time
No hand strain and no skill required just the knowledge and materials
Getting precise fitment on wood vs CAD takes far more time, and have the proper tools to shape the wood costs just as much if not more than a decent printer. I have tool bags for HVAC, guitar repair, and gunsmithing. Guitar repair is by far my most expensive toolbag at roughly $1600
Precision measurements on prints are incredibly easy where cutting wood to 0.1mm levels of precision takes an incredible amount of skill. If you need any degree of accuracy in your dimensions a 3D print is superior.
I appreciate the M1 Garand. However, it is much easier to build a STEN gun. You can still get the more complicated small parts online.
https://www.apexgunparts.com/machine-guns/sub-machine-guns/sten.html
use both but you'll probably need a good cnc for Precision parts
3d printing is just another useful tool in the toolbox, but it became another linux crypto techbro power fantasy cult shit
What fricking wordsalad just came out of your mouth?
If you had ever been around linuxgays and cryptogays you would know what he meant
I'm not sure but whenever there's a 3d printing thread it gets flooded by glowBlack folk, so it's obvious that Eglin AFB doesn't want people doing it and that's reason enough to do it.
OP please explain to me how you can woodwork a part with geometry like this with the ease and simplicity of pressing a couple of buttons and just waiting a couple of hours
honestly with a proper jig setup you could knock out like 20 of those in the time it takes to print that once
it would be a lot of intital investment though.
ok how about this one
I could easily do that in wood, just not in one piece
and what would be the easiest way to make those jigs anon
it sure would be convenient if you could print them or something ha ha
fitment, complex geometry, and simplifying the process are some pretty big reasons
cutting away wood is much less precise and far more inconvenient than printing most of the gun
3d printing can also help create the pressure bearing steel parts as well, like rifling the barrel via electrochemical machining or creating jigs to help drill and cut the stock for your bolt
you're gonna need a manual mill for your garand, but if you're still interested in print stuff go check out the fgc-9 mkII or integrally suppressed partisan 9 under the hybrids section of thegatalog.com
>So why not just carve it out of wood and try to diy a bolt action or even semi automatic based on time tested designs?
Probably because they are unskilled and dont have the space to have a workshop.
You can use a 3d printer in a aparment, but you cant have woodworking workshop in a aparment.
Ian from Forgotten Weapons described manufacturing lines where parts were milled. There are many steps, at each step there is machinery to make one cut into the work piece. As it moves from machine to machine, more cuts are made u til you have a receiver or whatever piece it is.
As far as I understand it, CNC replaces all of those individual machining steps, and does all of the milling as defined by the code it is given.