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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You should put sabot slugs in your smoothbore home defense shotgun because they'll immediately tumble when they leave the barrel and blow a bigger hole I'm the Black person's chest.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm the Black person's chest
      And I am the walrus. Coo coo cachoo

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't say you should, it's an option. Im not wrong. Yeah there is a little more nuance to the subject than throwing any sabot through any smoothbore. Frick you black and white moron. It's certainly not fuddlore. Maybe bubbas suggestion that doesn't meet your cookie cutter expectations.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        People saying:
        >kino
        >ack
        >boomer
        >bro
        ..etc..

        What

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People saying:
      >kino
      >ack
      >boomer
      >bro
      ..etc..

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm the Black person's chest.
      weird flex but ok

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >As Gregor Samsa awoke one morning from uneasy dreams he found himself transformed in his bed into a Black person's chest.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    7.62x39 is way more powerful than 7.62x54r because it shoots from an AK-47

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .22 infinite skull bounce

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This FUDD lore comes from the press itself. I have an article where a coroner is quoted as saying .22s bounce around in the body.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I’ve heard similar bullshit from multiple police sources regarding .25acp’s (nonexistent) tendency to fly all over the place and rip apart a torso

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Please post

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesn’t know I have a reliable source

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ok, have a nice day in the head with a .22 then and see if you survive

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Don't keep your mags loaded, you will wear our the springs"

    /thread

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this is true doe

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not. Springs wear out from cycles or overloading, not static load, and you can't overload a magazine spring without breaking the magazine itself.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is stupid and assumes that the springs are not pushing all the time even when they are not moving. There is always force being exerted by the spring, which means finite energy is being spent and eventually the material will fail.

          If it was true that mag springs never wear out, then earthquakes would never happen, because those masses of rock would keep exerting force into eachother but neither side would wear out

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >This is stupid and assumes that the springs are not pushing all the time even when they are not moving. There is always force being exerted by the spring, which means finite energy is being spent and eventually the material will fail.
            Learn the different between static loads and cycling and then you'll be allowed an opinion on material elasticity

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Work by a spring = force exerted by said spring x Displacement of the body being acted upon by said spring = change in potential energy. The energy you refer to is stored inside the static spring, and isn’t transferred until the spring actually moves something with that energy

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Earthquakes (typically) happen because strain in specific regions of the lithosphere increase over time to a fracturing point, not because of fatigue you fricking mong.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >There is always force being exerted by the spring, which means finite energy is being spent
            You have a flawed understanding of preservation of energy. The energy in the spring doesn't go anywhere until the spring is released.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, it's why you could leave an ar mag fully loaded for a decade or two and the only "damage" it'll have spring wise is miniscule when you unload the damn thing or shoot the whole mag at the range.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >There is always force being exerted by the spring, which means finite energy is being spent and eventually the material will fail.
            This is literally highschool physics. Force =/ Energy. Force * Displacement = change in energy. If the spring doesn't move there's no change in energy.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Heat cycles can wear out a spring, however that's 400F oven temperatures, not 140F desert temperature.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can indeed overload a magazine spring without damaging the magazine. That doesn't destroy the spring, it just causes it to take a set so it has less preload.

          This is stupid and assumes that the springs are not pushing all the time even when they are not moving. There is always force being exerted by the spring, which means finite energy is being spent and eventually the material will fail.

          If it was true that mag springs never wear out, then earthquakes would never happen, because those masses of rock would keep exerting force into eachother but neither side would wear out

          There is no energy spent by a spring if it doesn't move. Imagine you had a bottle of compressed air. Do you think the pressure would go down over time because the compressed air spent its potential energy pressing against the walls?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s not, but keeping cheap mags loaded can mess with the feed lips

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not. Springs wear out from cycles or overloading, not static load, and you can't overload a magazine spring without breaking the magazine itself.

        lots of cycling seems like something that could work harden the springs and make them brittle, overloading could bend them, keeping them loaded,... maybe creep? but you have springs in your gun that are under tension all the time and the mag springs are also still under tension when the mag is empty and this isnt really known to cause any noticable creep

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Frickin morons like you never disassembled a mag?
        It's already constantly pressed just to fit in the magazine body and provide tension. By your own mouth breather logic, a spring will fail just from being in an empty mag long enough.
        Shame on you for existing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This has to be somewhat true, right? I had a new p365 mag that was so stiff that I could barely get 9 rounds in it. I loaded it and put it in my safe for months without using it and now I can easily fully load it. The spring did get weaker.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It didn't get weaker it got broken in

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >keeping metal under stress will warp it
      Not fudd

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How often do they replace bridges in your town, or suspension springs in your car?

        It's amazing how hammer fired guns still work

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You cant /thread your own post you attention prostitute.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if it's true for torque wrenches why wouldn't it be true for magazines?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        magazines aren't calibrated precision tools

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The magazine is one of the most crucial parts and hard to get right, thats why a lot of manufacturers build their guns around readily available magazines.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not true for torque wrenches, backing them off after using them is also fuddlore.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        my point stands

        It's not true for torque wrenches, backing them off after using them is also fuddlore.

        k

        ?t=790

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That video, the specific point is about wrench accuracy from storing it in a set loaded state.
          The conclusion is that yes torque wrenches are not accurate if you put them in the box set to 50ft.lb and take them out 6 months later without adjusting them.

          As for mag springs they do not wear out from being loaded, that isn't how the elasticity of a spring steel functions. It does not have "shape memory" like your pillow and wearout only comes from being loaded and unloaded, from cycling.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    22 skull bounce
    M855 useless
    556 made to wound
    Ar500 armor is good
    Ceramic armor is bad and it's all the same
    UHMWPE armor is useless
    Night vision is useless and a waste of money

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My uncle was a high speed spook in the 90s and he still believes the 5.56 made to wound shit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because it fricking was? It literally tore asiatics aparat in nam.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds pretty lethal and not like it was meant to wound.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Getting your whole lung turned into a soupy mush is still technically 'just' a wound.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >technically
              I accept your concession

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Exit wounds were so horrific that the press had to censure the pics from nam.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Feels good to be a 20 inch 1:12 chad

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Circumcized Hakim
                Sad! Many such cases.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I once saw a Hakim and a Rashid for sale next to each other. Years later I found an air rifle Hakim trainer. I was too broke to buy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                is that mini-14

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bubba'd Egyptian clone of a WWII Swedish rifle called the AG-42 Ljungman.
                Shoots 7.92x57mm Mauser.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Circumcised Hakim

                >Circumcized Hakim
                Sad! Many such cases.

                I still love her

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >tfw people tell me I’m stupid for stocking 55gr even though my go-to rifles for events I anticipate killing someone are a C7A2 clone and a 20 inch mutt i build for CMP service rifle
                My cost saving is exonerated by Paul Harrell

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is funny because I’m unironically 6’6”

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is that one of those novelty enlarged guns to better see how the internals work? Is that guy just real small?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's Portuguese

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's a real sized AR and that's a real sized man let. A window AC unit is about 12 inches tall max. He's five AC units tall. He's five feet tall and that's max. If don't believe me and have a window AC unit, go measure it. It will be around 11-12 inches tall. It won't be any taller than 12 because windows are all specific sizes and can only open a specific amount.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                pics?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Probably not.
                Very early Air Force reports of 1 in 14" twist AR15s being used have extremely impressive descriptions of damage done to targets.
                But later testing couldn't replicate that, and after swapping to 1 in 12", still very impressive wounds were created but the memes about .223 being little grenades in the target didn't pan out.
                Perhaps there was some anomaly in the bullet manufacture early on, or the Air Force just made stuff up to justify buying AR15s when the Army didn't want them to.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The core of the Fuddlore is that it was specifically designed to wound the enemy in order to tie up their resources, which ignores the much more obvious reasons why 5.56 was adopted for an explanation that is dubious at best.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >5.56 designed to wound
            The best part of this fuddlore post 2022 is that Russia doesn't care for their wounded.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          moron

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Night vision is useless and a waste of money
      that one is completely true tho

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I own night vision and I find it incredibly useful for being able to see at night.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          thermals are better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKUdsTnnUgA

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Being able to see in the dark is bad, useless and totally not super-power tier capability.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >owns guns and gear for "reasons"
        >thinks all those "reasons" will be constrained to daytime

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        True, thermal is the way.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      a fatal wound is still a wound

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The atomic bomb was designed to wound

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, wounds are what makes the fatal

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >M855 useless
      Didn't Paul Harrel test this properly and find it to be a garbage round, or am I thinking of someone/something else?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ar500 armor is good
      Sure its not as good as ceramic or composite plates, but think of the modern knights in ar500 platemail

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      M855 is not useless, but it is worse than every other option.
      Testing cartridges based on penetrating a steel helmet in the 1980s was not conducive to good projectile design, who knew?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Had a friend tell me with a straight face that he doesn't clean or oil his shotguns because shooting them every so often is enough to keep them clean, meanwhile both of his double barrel shotguns have seized triggers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is one of those things that's almost true. If your gun is dirty and you've left it for any significant time putting a few rounds through it can warm up the gun and help loosen the carbon a little. However you still have to actually clean the gun, it will not clean itself.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"Russian ammo is corrosive!"
    I use Prvi Partizan, it's just still 7.62x54r
    >"Doesn't matter, it's still corrosive!"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jugo/Serbs used corrosive longer than most, older, cyrillic marked PPU is usually corrosive.

      This FUDD lore comes from the press itself. I have an article where a coroner is quoted as saying .22s bounce around in the body.

      Mah huntin buddy had a gun go off on it's own and that .22 went into his foot and come out his butt cheek sonny! Thank the lord it didn't make it to his head!

      That 9mm is under powered crap! *carries a .38*

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Once knew a meth addict who carried a Taurus PT111 and used FMJ steel case except for the last 3 rounds which were hollowpoints. His reasoning? “If they make it through these then they’re getting the NASTY stuff”

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's not fuddlore, they're just being economical

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Sieg

    2 middle eastern wars back to back gramps, lost em both same time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick off you obese hapa

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day you stupid homosexual

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think that your life would be improved through suicide, tripgay.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lol nice cope mohammed you got BTFO in both.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What are you talking about?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The invasion was successful. The post invasion period led to 60k+ Insurgent casualties and barely even a tenth of that for the invading forces. The country is in shambles, and is currently falling in and out of control through various cabals and sects of ISIS and the Taliban. They aren't friends, and there's still in-fighting going on.
          No one won this war.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The invasion was successful. The post invasion period led to 60k+ Insurgent casualties and barely even a tenth of that for the invading forces. The country is in shambles, and is currently falling in and out of control through various cabals and sects of ISIS and the Taliban. They aren't friends, and there's still in-fighting going on.
        No one won this war.

        Lol muttboy, you lost. You will never win a war.
        While you were enforcing the will of the israelite in some desert shithole, Sunni Muslims were immigrating en mass to your country. You'll soon be a minority in your homeland.
        t. Muslim

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          sorry sandBlack person, beaner bros won. Sunni "muslims" dont even make up 5% of our population

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >beaner
            >bros
            >winning
            Come on you know better than that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >bragging about his sisters getting their backs blown out

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >t. Muslim
          imagine a profit being the center of your religion instead of God himself (aka Jesus Christ)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The Iraqi government we installed is still in power
      >Saddam dead
      >ISIS fricked
      >Bin Laden dead
      >Al Qaeda fricked
      Oh no we didn’t prestige the unobtainable side quest of turning Afghanistan into a 1st world democracy

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In the army, I knew a guy who refused to use an Aimpoint. He was basically forced to put it on his M4, but he'd turn it off an keep his irons flipped up. His logic was that an Aimpoint was a close combat optic and what if he needed to shoot at a longer distance? He literally thought red dots were only usable at close range.
    Staff sergeant in like 2005 btw.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >enlisted Army are moronic
      News at 11

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The artists in those old dinosaur books went HARD

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No kidding

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Single shots aren't enough for hunting! You NEED to have a repeater for one second follow up shots!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      a moose can weigh up to 1600 pounds and runs at 35 miles per hour or more in all but the worst terrain and has for practical purposes instant acceleration
      if you take a 100 yard shot and the moose decides "frick it and frick you" you have roughly 6 seconds to reload, re-aim and deliver a killing shot into the moose - with it coming towards you - meaning you're hitting it from the front with a vastly reduced cross section
      are you really willing to risk it just to not be called a fudd
      personally I wouldn't, but I also know (verifiably) second-hand someone who got killed by a moose

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        just bring alojng a double barre 12 or less shotgun with slugs

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > you have roughly 6 seconds to reload, re-aim and deliver a killing shot into the moose
        6 seconds is a lot of time to reload
        >meaning you're hitting it from the front with a vastly reduced cross section
        While true it keeps getting closer which makes it easier to hit. You’ll also get a bullet traveling lengthwise through the body which will likely do more damage than a broadside shot. Do you really think it’s hard to hit a moose at 40 yards? It’s a huge target

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You've obviously never hunted boars

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    revolvers.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    .50 BMG is so powerful it will tear your arm off even with a near miss

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Underrated post

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I got into an argument in a youtube comments section that had multiple people telling me with 100% conviction that the kinetic energy of a brown bess would kill someone through ceramic armor. And also that every european country was moronic because they all continued to use armor even after firearms became dominant. And also that every account of this armor doing its job was simply luck/made up.
    I don't go into youtube comments anymore.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I got into an argument in a youtube comments section
      You lost already

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I realize now the error of my ways, if only it had happened sooner.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the things I've seen in youtube comment sections make the schizophrenics here look sane by comparison. Its honestly a little unnerving

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          An issue with modern social media is that not only does it draw in a lot of people (and therefore schizos, old people, and schizo old people), but their algorithms will often show people things that they have no knowledge or interest in. At least the /k/ moron had to willingly choose to have gun content presented to him, the youtube moron is probably a boomer watching Jimmy Falon clip compilations who's only there because he forgot how to turn off autoplay on his smart tv.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the things I've seen in youtube comment sections make the schizophrenics here look sane by comparison. Its honestly a little unnerving

      Anon, the comments section started to get kinda smart IIRC around 2016 and now is on a nosedive so bad it makes 2012 youtube comments section look sane in comparison. The shorts in particular attract real extreme morons. I cannot tell you the amount of times I've seen:
      >"yeah I have an AR/AK, you can just pay a $200 tax stamp and register it as a machinegun!" or a mention of when they turn 21 they're going to do it (and other people going "yeah im gonna do it eventually too")
      >people with genuine third world understanding of nature claiming that a video finding shit like pyrite or (extremely common) quartz crystals is "fake" despite them saying they went to (place you can pay to dig) and the crystals being in formations that fall apart the moment you pull them out of the ground; not to mention I can find less pretty quartz just by walking farm fields and anyone who spends any time outside would know about it
      >people going "FAKE ASS RESTORATION" in the comments to the few people who really DO restore guns or furniture and don't just buy something and spray coffee grounds, brown paint, etc. all over it and wipe it down in a "wow it's fixed" 5 minutes of effort video
      >people seething over foxes and coyotes being hunted on farmland where they are a nuisance
      >people seething over literal vermin being taken out that if not taken care of will eat their population into starvation and spread disease
      wildcard/free space:
      >bro that's illegal
      >nuh-uh my dad's a (law enforcement position)
      >w-well it's illegal in my state/county/country and should be in yours too!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the comments section started to get kinda smart IIRC around 2016 and now is on a nosedive so bad it makes 2012 youtube comments section look sane in comparison

        2016-2020 was the period where all of the internet infrastructure was crumbling and becoming non-functional but large language models weren't a thing. low quality bot discourse was a thing that had been going on for probably a decade before this AI crap but it wasn't entirely automated and required a decent amount of organization and resources, but now the barrier to entry is so low that most of the internet has been flooded with bots because anyone can do it and all of the means to do it have been handed out to the lowest common denominator

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your pic got this backwards. Fudd boomers have been claiming
    >.223 is a varmint round!
    >.270 is a real man's cartridge
    Ironically the new 6.8mm is like .277 or something. Were they right?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      6.8 Sig isn't truly new. NGSW requirements weren't written by new people yesterday, they were done by the final boomers hanging on in the DOD. It's the last gasp of the boomers from beyond the grave.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly like half the trendy new 6.8/9 rounds are basically trying to short action up .270

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >this [tiny bullet from weak caliber] is more deadly because of indescribable reasons like remote wounding

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I know! Anyways..
      >loads pmag with m193

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The first time I went to a public range, the RSO insisted to me that the range notches on my Mosin were measured in, wait for it, tens of feet.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Let him test his theory
      Shoot the dirt in front of him
      Watch him say it's because you zeroed it wrong

      this is true doe

      The internet has that nu-knowledge on how spring steel works and cannot fathom that designers are often incompetent on springs and might have their magazines loaded past their true elastic limit when full. Don't bother.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This guys jacks his car up every night to keep the suspension from wearing out.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you guys only have 1 response to this?
          I accept that that's too much work to save myself from having to replace them in 20 years.
          My car springs are also not held in overcompression like a great many loaded magazines.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >overcompression like a great many loaded magazines
            can you please provide an example of one of these wrongly designed magazines?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >what's 2+2?
            >And don't say 4!
            There's only one response because it's the objective truth. Springs do not wear from static loading inside their operational window. Yes, it's possible you could buy a mag with a bad spring, but that makes the mag totally defective the same broken feedlips or a busted floor plate would and it's why you don't buy untempered mag springs in bulk from Chinese industrial websites.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >My car springs are also not held in overcompression like a great many loaded magazines.
            Why are you taking your magazine springs out of the magazine and crushing them in a vise? Because that's the only way you can overload a modern magazine spring.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I deliberately overload my magazines to toughen the springs up.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I want to take all the people who say:
                "I under-load my magazines to keep them reliable"

                and the people who say:
                "I overload my magazines to break in the springs"

                and make them fight to the death in a pit with glass and sharp sticks.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >>not installing air bag suspension and deflating it nightly…. Ngmi…

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wasn't there a French car that literally did this and if the engine died you lost your suspension?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The system doesn't instantly depressurize if the engine turned off. It doesn't function like hydraulic power steering where you'd instantly lose any assist once the pump stops moving.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Old Citroëns like the DS have hydropneumatic suspension and brakes which are operated by a hydraulic pump driven by the engine. This system had a number of odd quirks, some of which were less than optimal. But this system did produce and extremely smooth ride, so much so that Rolls Royce bought a license to copy the system and installed it on their cars for like 30 years.
              The frogs invented this shit back in the 1950s when American cars still had medieval suspension technology in comparison.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Americans created modern cars so frick off.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The frogs invented this shit back in the 1950s when American cars still had medieval suspension technology in comparison.
                Yet, nobody uses the Citroen system whereas double wishbone front+ live axle rear is still common.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nta, but thats solely because it's less complex, and thus cheaper not because it's better in absolute terms, also citroen had the patents so if you wanted to do it without their licence you'd go for air ride anyway
                couple that with both roads and shocks getting better and the trade off seems not worth it anymore

                >The frogs invented this shit back in the 1950s when American cars still had medieval suspension technology in comparison.

                A bit disingenuous there. Weak bait, indeed.

                >Weak bait, indeed.

                A little bit bait, but these cars are fricking cool. Drive one if you get a chance. Frogs do make some cool shit- not better but always different.

                >A little bit bait
                He might want to bait some americans, but at that point everyones car suspensions looked medieval in comparison
                To put that into perspective, a fricking 1996 xantia with had an updated version of that suspension holds the record for the moose test till this very day, ahead of a porsche 911 gt3 i think

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The frogs invented this shit back in the 1950s when American cars still had medieval suspension technology in comparison.

                A bit disingenuous there. Weak bait, indeed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They invented it because their bombed out roads were garbage.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A little bit bait, but these cars are fricking cool. Drive one if you get a chance. Frogs do make some cool shit- not better but always different.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I could see that happening if you have bad valves or an air leak but it doesn't make sense to have the system need constant pressurization.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, on Citroen cars and as

              The system doesn't instantly depressurize if the engine turned off. It doesn't function like hydraulic power steering where you'd instantly lose any assist once the pump stops moving.

              and

              I could see that happening if you have bad valves or an air leak but it doesn't make sense to have the system need constant pressurization.

              said it only happened when you had a leak in the system.
              It was very funny though, a friend of mine had one and it would sit on the floor with a loud pssst every time he parked it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We have a saying here in Germany which basically says: "This comparison is walking on a limp"
          Yours isn't walking on a limp, it has no arms and no legs.

          If you leave your pickup truck in the yard it is UNLOADED as much as your magazine are, whilst having no cartridges in them.
          But if you put 2200 lbs of fricking bricks on the back of your pick-up truck, you put the absolute maximum amount of tension on your car and springs the engineers desiged them to withstand. Your truck is now fully LOADED. And it is so to a limit, which your manufacturer intended it to withstand for a short amount of time, and not as a new normal. That's one of the reasons you're not carrying around a full metric ton of bricks all the time, or just leave them at the back of your truck for six months. I assume we can agree, that such a strain would indeed very quickly wear out your suspension.

          Many manufacturers simply do not anticipate their magazines to be fully loaded all the time. So the springs are not designed for that. You will wear them out just like your suspension.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're objectively wrong. Learn how 2 physics and material science.

            Springs wear out from repeated extension and compression. Not from static load.
            If you took the coil spring from the suspension from a car, put a 400kg load on it, and left it for 20 years, it wouldn't magically be 10cm more compressed than it was when the load was initially installed. That's not how steel springs work.
            But if you bounce that 500kg load on and off the spring repeatedly for an extended period of time, the spring would wear out and lose its strength.

            Keeping magazines loaded to full capacity is objectively fine.
            The only time it's a problem is if the magazines are made of particularly shitty plastic, in which case the plastic can warp or break, but the springs aren't damaged.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >You're objectively wrong.
              >Learn how 2 physics and material science.
              It would be more compressed, but not magically.
              Find any old spring that's been held in any compression for years but is otherwise unused and it will be shorter than a new spring.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They design the springs to be stronger than otherwise needed specifically because of wear like that. A brand new magazine fresh out of the package seems to have a longer spring than a used one, but it eventually settles into the shorter 'broken-in' shape it was designed to continually operate with.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >used shit is more worn than new shit
                He literally said this.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe your shitty euro gay boy truck but not my truck

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >But if you put 2200 lbs of fricking bricks on the back of your pick-up truck
            Using something in a way that is beyond it's rating breaks it, amazing.

            >Many manufacturers simply do not anticipate their magazines to be fully loaded
            source: your ass, because no manufacturer's documentation says this.

            We have a saying in the US: you're a homosexual.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Putting 2200 pounds of bricks in the back of your pickup and leaving it in your driveway for a year isn't even a tiny bit of a problem. You'll have problems if you load it up and then start blasting down a dirt path at 70 miles per hour, because that 2200 pounds in the bed translates into much, much higher dynamic loads when you start driving over rocks and potholes.

            Think of it this way: do you think that an Explorer constantly having extra weight in the back from the SUV body and back seats will cause the springs to sag because it uses the same leaf pack as the Ranger?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >aim for the moon
      >shoot for the stars

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OLD MN's the numbers on the sight arm indicate "Arshins", which measure 28". But nothing of the soviet era will have these. That RSO was a moron.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >RSO thinks you need a rifle at mortar angles for 200 ft
      How can you have a job involving guns and know this little about them?

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >letting the shot surprise you
    >stare at the sights/dot
    >~~*aim*~~ instead of target focus at long distance
    >hold the trigger, slowly release, reset and instantly pull next short
    inb4 Black person tier nonsense: idgaf

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    unrelated but when I was a kid I thought AKs shot 7.62 x 39m I also remember someone saying .30 caliber must be a weak round because they thought it was a linear regression from .45 acp

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >30 caliber must be a weak round because they thought it was a linear regression from .45 acp

      Kek, this is exactly what I thought as a dumb euro kid too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is correct and what I've been saying since the Krag was adopted, it's why I still carried my trapdoor, frick what the army says this .30 peashooter crap isn't going to get ME killed in the trenches.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        t. Roughrider

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      7.62 x 51*

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >revolvers can't jam

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lol this, my first revovler would actually sieze up when it got hot, the metal would expand and the slightly-bent ejector rod would rub against the frame and make the trigger pull progressively harder. there was also a weird burr inside the cylinder so hitting the ejector rod would have a 1/3 chance of making the star stick open

      this is why i hate ruger revolvers.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Damn, I thought it was just me. Whenever I took my Ruger revolver the trigger would get progressively heavier over the session, and mostly over a certain chamber

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    breaking in barrels by shooting one bullet at a time then running a wipe through every shot. pretty sure steyr still recommends this in their manuals

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Howa still recommends that

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is just Japanese autism though. Imagine if barrels actually were like cast iron and you had to keep them seasoned or they'd rust.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >mfw mom uses soap to clean your rifle

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Paul Harrell cleans his ar with soap and water

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >tfw dated a Chinese girl and after staying over and cooking dinner I washed her wok for her
          >She ended up calling her mom in tears

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            tbh in 99% of circumstances you do have to be a certain level of moronic to wash a cast iron pan instead of just wiping with a wet towel while it's hot

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Gaijin ain’t season dey raifus

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >bro, just, like, temper your own steel

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >an abrasive
        I literally stopped reading right there. Abrasive is an adjective, not a noun. So I already know this whole thing is some fuddlore bullshit from that alone.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Abrasive is an adjective, not a noun
          you're pretending, right?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Abrasive is an adjective, not a noun.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I hope to god you are an ESL.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/uB6UAcn.png

      Howa still recommends that

      I'm pretty sure that's not breaking in but rather removing burrs/chemicals/whatever from the manufacturing process.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >burrs
        >in the bore
        If there are any burrs in the bore no amount of break in shots will fix it. Any chemicals or oils in the bore will be incinerated on the very first shot and blown out with the propellant gasses.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I was speculating on the burss buy with chemicals/oils it would explain why they want you to wipe the bore after every shot.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cleaning after every shot is supposed to remove copper fouling so each bullet is contacting bare barrel steel. I think it's supposed to replicate hand lapping a barrel.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              But why would I want that. I want the copper to fill in imperfections.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The precision shooting ""community"" is a strange and superstitious bunch, there was some high end barrel manufacturer, don't remember who, who said in an interview that yeah it's bullshit but it's just in the manual to soothe the raging autism of that half of their clientele.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i think i saw the same interview. something like the customer support number would get so many calls of fudds saying "you need to do this and its not even in your user manual!!!" so they put it in to free up call center hotlines

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i think i saw the same interview. something like the customer support number would get so many calls of fudds saying "you need to do this and its not even in your user manual!!!" so they put it in to free up call center hotlines

                That was Backfire/Eric Cortina and he doesn't do a barrel break in, called some companies, and asked and found out it's pretty much BS. He uses CLR to clean his barrel, LOL. Stainless barrel rather than blued though.

                The artists in those old dinosaur books went HARD

                Art in pretty much every "older" book about birds, trees, animals, or dinosaurs was fricking nuts. Stupidly beautiful drawings, paintings, and watercolor for everything

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Burrs are common (in shit tier rifles) especially around gas ports, first shot clears them out. Shit in the chamber needs a proper fix though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ptr-91 too

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not fudd lore explicitly but when I got my first AR it was a BCM and I was at the range talking to my bud about it being my first AR and blah blah. RSO overhears me and mutters to the other RSO
    >BCM for his first rifle
    >What a waste

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Hydrostatic shock"

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rack the action of a shotgun, that should scare off the intruder without having to fire a shot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      objectively yes that will scare away a lot of intruders. letting someone know you're awake, aware of their presence and armed is going to scare off all but the most insane.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        because they're going to hear that while kicking down your door and screaming ape sounds at you

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It sounds cooler than loudly threatening to rape them

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i always take off my pants and underwear when someone is threatening me

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's a good power move unless you're a female

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Speak for yourself

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dry firing a striker fired pistol will break it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably true in regards to the striker fired pistols boomers were familiar with (cast zinc potmetal trash).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I bought a CZ-52 and people keep saying to not dry fire it because the pin work-hardens and becomes brittle. It's due to that part in particular being dogshit cast metal or something.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. Those people are right, very brittle free floatin firing pin, I already manage to break one. Also avoid using dewienerer on vz52 or 70 or 50, when some contact surfaces are worn out, dewienerer serves as a second trigger.
        vz52's are interesting pistols from technical standpoint but when it comes to durability and reliability they are shit compared to TT33

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That can happen on CZ-52s. I bought a new hardened steel firing pin when I bought mine. It was like $20-25 so it seemed like a no brainer

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably just copied over from rimfire .22 pistols.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And certain .22 S/L/LR rifles. =(

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ouchies

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      only need 1 for a murder 1
      but more is always nice

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              lol

              You're objectively wrong. Learn how 2 physics and material science.

              Springs wear out from repeated extension and compression. Not from static load.
              If you took the coil spring from the suspension from a car, put a 400kg load on it, and left it for 20 years, it wouldn't magically be 10cm more compressed than it was when the load was initially installed. That's not how steel springs work.
              But if you bounce that 500kg load on and off the spring repeatedly for an extended period of time, the spring would wear out and lose its strength.

              Keeping magazines loaded to full capacity is objectively fine.
              The only time it's a problem is if the magazines are made of particularly shitty plastic, in which case the plastic can warp or break, but the springs aren't damaged.

              this

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unironically this is the correct choice. Most women who want a handgun want something small to keep in their purse they can unload into the bad guy if he's about to rape them or something and they aren't interested in becoming proficient with a handgun. A hammerless j frame is excellent for that. You can see it's loaded with a glance at the cylinder, there's no possibility of limp-wristing, theres no slide to rack (women are often too weak to effectively rack a slide), 5 shots of .38 at contact range will kill somebody no problem, its snag resistant when drawing, and you can load it and let it sit for potentially decades and it will still fire just fine. Now, I wouldn't recommend it to someone who wants to git gud with a handgun, but if I was asked by my mom or sister or someone for handgun advice and she didn't want to put time in at the range, that's what I'd tell her to get.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >theres no slide to rack (women are often too weak to effectively rack a slide)
          I've only ever met 1 woman who was too weak to rack a slide, it was an old lady with osteoporosis and arthritis.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you can load it and let it sit for potentially decades and it will still fire just fine

          just the other day I noticed my Gen 3 Glock 19 expired and I was super pissed about having to get a new one.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Shouldn't have left it in the sun, sonny. Wouldn't be a problem with a steel framed gun.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Both my mom, sister, and gf can barely operate a glock, not to mention a da/sa pistol with a dewienerer. They're getting a DA only revolver in .38 like my grandpa gave my grandma.

          Anon, I know you've never interacted with a women but a lot of them simply do not have the upper body strength necessary to rack a slide, especially a slide on a stiffer handgun like a Glock. It's not a question of technique it's a question of anatomy.

          Anon, I'm not fricking with you. Go ask 10 random women to rack a modern full size handgun. Even when you teach them the right technique I guarantee at least half won't be able to. Women and men have noticeably different bodily anatomy. It's the same reason women have difficulty opening stuck jars.

          Fricking hell, guys, the M&P EZ series exists. There is no excuse besides stupidity at this point.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Can be limp-wristed, therefore not as simple and reliable as a j frame. It requires a higher gun literacy level to use than a hammerless j frame.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If a foid can't rack a slide, she doesn't have the finger strength to pull the trigger on a DA. Even if she does, she'll jerk it like 45 degrees to the side and miss.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Exaggeration

            >Most women who want a handgun want something small to keep in their purse
            any woman who carries a gun in their purse is straight up stupid. They're stolen all the time and guess what happens?
            perp has your
            >money
            >debit and credit cards
            >ID with your address
            >car keys
            >house keys
            and here's the kicker
            >they have your gun
            There are holsters that fit to a damn bra that are light years ahead of this purse carry idea. With that in mind a revolver is an awful option and your wife is a fool.

            >any woman who carries a gun in their purse is straight up stupid
            Yeah, no shit. That's still what they want for a gun though.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Most women who want a handgun want something small to keep in their purse
          any woman who carries a gun in their purse is straight up stupid. They're stolen all the time and guess what happens?
          perp has your
          >money
          >debit and credit cards
          >ID with your address
          >car keys
          >house keys
          and here's the kicker
          >they have your gun
          There are holsters that fit to a damn bra that are light years ahead of this purse carry idea. With that in mind a revolver is an awful option and your wife is a fool.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Both my mom, sister, and gf can barely operate a glock, not to mention a da/sa pistol with a dewienerer. They're getting a DA only revolver in .38 like my grandpa gave my grandma.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is me, I tell brand new women to get revolvers because they’re dead simple and women are often either too weak to work a slide or overwhelmed at how to operate a semi automatic pistol
          >t. Gun store employee who hates existence

          please just teach women overhand slide grip and push-pull technique. if they're really too moronic to understand the mechanics of an automatic pistol they're probably <90 IQ and shouldn't have one, but at least try taking the recoil spring out of one and slowly demonstrate how the slide physically strips ammunition out of the magazine or something

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and shouldn't have one,
            SHALL

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Anon its not that simple, a lot of these women are uncomfortable with guns or dragged in by their husbands so all that combined with never touching a glock before means they’re often overwhelmed and end up not getting anything. If they demonstrate they can pull a slide I point them to the m&p shield EZs and glocks.

              I find myself strangely uncomfortable with arming people who can't understand circle block go in circle hole

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                anon, that's the one thing women understand.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, I know you've never interacted with a women but a lot of them simply do not have the upper body strength necessary to rack a slide, especially a slide on a stiffer handgun like a Glock. It's not a question of technique it's a question of anatomy.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >do not have the upper body strength
              ?????????
              >grab slide with left hand
              >grab grip with right hand
              >keep arms straight
              >move hands to the right while keeping arms straight and not letting go slide or grip
              >gun racks without needing any "upper body strength" (whatever you think that means, certainly not what it actually means)
              There, now kys.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, I'm not fricking with you. Go ask 10 random women to rack a modern full size handgun. Even when you teach them the right technique I guarantee at least half won't be able to. Women and men have noticeably different bodily anatomy. It's the same reason women have difficulty opening stuck jars.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >brought gf to range for first time
                >she's 110lbs in steel toes
                >trying out all different guns
                >pick up PTR-91 (pic related)
                >grown men unfamiliar with the platform display legitimate difficulty in racking the bolt
                >expect tiny woman to need help
                >"alright so you insert the mag here and then fold out this little lever and just pull back and let go. Now it's pretty hard for mo-"
                >*shuck-chuck*
                >effortless rack
                >am visibly stunned for a moment
                >continue range day in fear of hidden vegana strength
                They don't punch hard and they can't grapple for shit, but every now and then I'm amazed by random women displaying equal levels of strength in random activities

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, I know you've never interacted with a women but a lot of them simply do not have the upper body strength necessary to rack a slide, especially a slide on a stiffer handgun like a Glock. It's not a question of technique it's a question of anatomy.

                >Women are weak
                I would like to mention that mothers often carry around 65lb toddlers that are flailing and trying to dive headfirst into every sharp corner. There's significant functional strength involved, especially when they do it for an hour or two at a time while walking five miles in a shopping mall.

                Just something to consider.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                okay then why can't they rack a glock?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lack of grip strength

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I am literally a woman

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Me too. It's not hard to learn how to operate a firearm. Gun chuddies are usually just too stupid and have their heads too far up their own asses to explain something new to someone, so they default to their PrepHole misogyny instead.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Me too. It's not hard to learn how to operate a firearm. Gun chuddies are usually just too stupid and have their heads too far up their own asses to explain something new to someone, so they default to their PrepHole misogyny instead.

                breasts or GTFO

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                not /b/ + wasn't attention-seeking, was statement of qualifications

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Post neck without an adam's apple, troony

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Post guns and hand, sperg

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't claim shit, so I don't have to. That's what you get for trying to pull the "I'm a woman" card.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                not that poster

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Post guns and hand, brownoid sperg

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Please tell me you have a turquoise SCCY

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                breasts and timestamp troony n

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Me too. It's not hard to learn how to operate a firearm. Gun chuddies are usually just too stupid and have their heads too far up their own asses to explain something new to someone, so they default to their PrepHole misogyny instead.

                You post on the weapons board of PrepHole. We are talking about average women, not huge outliers like yourselves.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon its not that simple, a lot of these women are uncomfortable with guns or dragged in by their husbands so all that combined with never touching a glock before means they’re often overwhelmed and end up not getting anything. If they demonstrate they can pull a slide I point them to the m&p shield EZs and glocks.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unironically this is the correct choice. Most women who want a handgun want something small to keep in their purse they can unload into the bad guy if he's about to rape them or something and they aren't interested in becoming proficient with a handgun. A hammerless j frame is excellent for that. You can see it's loaded with a glance at the cylinder, there's no possibility of limp-wristing, theres no slide to rack (women are often too weak to effectively rack a slide), 5 shots of .38 at contact range will kill somebody no problem, its snag resistant when drawing, and you can load it and let it sit for potentially decades and it will still fire just fine. Now, I wouldn't recommend it to someone who wants to git gud with a handgun, but if I was asked by my mom or sister or someone for handgun advice and she didn't want to put time in at the range, that's what I'd tell her to get.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >crazy dude takes a bunch of point blank gut shots
          what is your implication here? when someone is point blank away you shoot them in the face

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they always shoot center mass and with 9mm 50% doesnt care and the other thinks they are dying soon

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that guy did die there to be fair, I remember this vid because the guy filming just started going:
          >Mhmm that's what we like to see

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Honestly 5 shots from a j frame would have the same outcome. He’d still tank them and keep walking forward and drop 5 seconds later. The only shitty part is you have no more ammo and no women carrying a j frame will have spare ammo on them

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is me, I tell brand new women to get revolvers because they’re dead simple and women are often either too weak to work a slide or overwhelmed at how to operate a semi automatic pistol
        >t. Gun store employee who hates existence

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My missus picked out a full sized .357 because she can't load mags or work slides, but still wants to put an easy shooting meaty hole in things.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      unironically true though

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I am a shit marksman

        Just carry a single shot then. Simple as.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >eight shots is the same as one shot
          >hurr muh moronic argumentum ad absurdum is totally not moronic
          kys moronic Black person

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I am a shit marksman

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How about 9?

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lost count of boomers shitting on my Tok
    >Antiquated
    >Low power
    >Low ammo
    >Inaccurate
    >Boomer has a rusty 1911

    It's all so tiresome

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >7.62x39 relies on its speed for lethality, whereas "shock" of the fast travelling bullet will kill you
    t. dad told me, who carried a Vz. 58 and was fed such bullshit and he kept it

    >9mm will blow a door off its hinges
    this about the time when a Mazda 323 was a "sports car" in eastern yurop

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you get the same reaction from tactifudds if you say you carry anything other than a 9mm polymer striker fire handgun

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >isle

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This hasn’t been in-date for ten years now. Try badmouthing 9mm anywhere and you get autistic screeching.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In terms of terminal ballistics, 45 is better than 9.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    G36 melts after a few mags

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What kind of fuddlore will you be spreading around once you’re old?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Red dot sights are necessary for a carry pistol.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Red dots are necessary for a carry pistol

        That’s already being pushed by every guntuber, gun company, and tactical Timmy for the past years now

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'll tell everyone that every time you shoot some old bolt action rifle, like WW2 or older, you need to hit the solid ground with the crown of a muzzle every time after you shoot, because that shakes off the fouling inside the barrel and if you don't do it the barrel gets obstructed and the bolt will explode in your face. And when all the collectible old rifles are destroyed by dumb zoomers I'll make fortune selling my collection.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >in my day we used to have guns
      >guns with 30 round mags and 16 inch barrels
      >you kids out there with your government compliant single shot .22 rifles and 10 round per month ammo allowance don’t know what you’re doing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The 5.7 has no stopping power and the Glock won the third world war.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick all the high bc rifle rounds, 165/168gr 308 will kill any game in the western hemispheres just fine inside of 300 yards

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >polymer is basically indestructible, if it does break then you can melt it back into shape with a heat gun.
      >10mm is necessary for bear country, 9mm won't penetrate the fur
      >[obscure experimental high velocity cartridge] is the best all around hunting cartridge for prairie dogs
      >all suppressors are hearing safe
      >israeli carry was an elaborate ruse to bait the arabs into attacking idf thinking they didn't have a round in the chamber
      >everyone is a fed

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >israeli carry was an elaborate ruse to bait the arabs into attacking idf thinking they didn't have a round in the chamber

        i dont know how much of this is just israelite woo, but the jericho doesn't have a glock/sig/ruger locking system it has a 1911/cz/browning style locking system where it has locking rings on the barrel, so half of the time when i see chucklefricks doing israeli carry stuff it kind of looks like larping to me because the aren't taking advantage of the things that made the idea ""viable"" in the first place

        i dont know if its viable. seems dumb to carry without one in the chamber, but if i was forced to do that due to procedure i would much prefer the gun that won't bite your hand if you put your palm too forward in an overhand grip

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wood does not belong on a rifle.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Holy shit I see it now
        >nuh uh wood warps whenever you take it outside on a humid day, you'll never hit shit and your zero will constantly shift
        >don't even think about getting snow on it
        >wood doesn't belong on guns, it gets moldy
        >that laminate furniture of yours is gonna delaminate in the rain and fall apart!
        >it'll get u killed in da woods!
        >it'll make your gross blued barrel rust where it touches! (usually guns are actually rust-free under the stockline and internally)
        >blued finishes? don't you know? that thing will rust the first time you get caught in the rain! and your gun will lock up (i actually hunt in light showers btw, no rust forms unless it gets left in a foam rifle case)
        >that stock of yours is going to shatter one day; wood just can't handle gun oil (if you're a chronic over-oiler who stores his guns vertically)

        ouchies

        Indeed and I don't think the poor thing has a chamber burr, the material just got moved equally into every direction forwards. Hell of a thing to fix. New barrel and crosspin may be the best bet here as a shim was needed to prevent wobbles. Or a reline but I'm getting sick just thinking about that cost for what is pretty much to me a plinking gun with no way to mount a scope, vintage or not. Oh and it still needs to be shimmed or its cross pin changed (hopefully just the latter) to cure its wobbles. Ain't playing with old stuff great?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I inherited a handful of ancient unmarked mystery meat plinkers that I take out occasionally to keep lubed up. I'm just waiting for the day one of the pot metal fricks sends some shrapnel through my carotid and puts me out of my misery.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I have an unhealthy obsession with old .22s for some ungodly reason. The firing pins are the most likely thing to break so hope to god you have a gunsmith that has more than 2 braincells and won't "nuh-uh" you or take 14 months on a simple job anyone with the right stash of steel, metalworking tools, and actual gunsmith experience should be able to do in like 2 hours. Be careful with them and don't send any velocitors or something stupid through them; subsonic ideally especially if it's something real old and nearing "antique". Also if you want, post pic(s). I like seeing weird 22s and might be able to ID a couple. My most recent new weird gun I came across that's living in the back of my head is a CJ Hamilton Model 39. No markings except "Made in the USA" IIRC. And god only knows what's going on inside the gun; why all that length? Why is there a shroud over the barrel? Oh nevermind, a quick search shows that holy shit this thing is "special".
            >At any rate the Hamilton Mdl 39 has a folded metal construction with a rifled brass barrel insert. It was chambered for .22 Short only cartridges

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In Vietnam we didn’t have 5.56 20rnders that were straight they had a curve to them. I was there the only straight mags that were 20 ends that you were thinking of were m14 mags, you need to get your facts straight Sonny

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think like 95% of all boomerisms and fudd lore come from Vietnam era guns and equipment. You hear a few about WWII and Korean, but Nam seems to be where they all focus on when rambling about fun facts.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >German wwii tanks were diesel.
    >the tiger tank had a gas / electric hybrid engine, That’s why they broke down all the time

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why is it that the tacticool larper are never able to shoot straight while boomers do their job?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >drywall dust slowly creeping around once the shooting stops
      Goddamn that brought me back to playing f.e.a.r and just got a nice flashback to how good the gun fights are in that game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The guy who stopped the Greenewood mall shooter wasn’t a boomer and he carried a Glock 19 and did it at 40 yards.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does anyone know where I can find more about this? I love news stories about morons getting dropped trying dumb shit.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's bullshit, uncle Jun never fought in Afghanistan.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In terms of something I've been told in-person at a small range by the owner:
    >It's irresponsible to carry a defensive round that's going too fast - it'll punch through your target and could kill someone at a weird angle behind them. You need to ditch the 9mm and get a .380 or .45ACP

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you don't need no "training," I learned everything I needs ta know standing in one spot shootin a paper target!

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    all bolt guns are mausers

    open carry makes you a target (then makes confused noises when reminded that cops open carry)

    All handgun calibers create the same wound channel. This is usually followed up with a 20+ yr old gel pics, or says "coroners can't tell the difference".

    .380 is an ineffective round for self defense

    In a self defense situation, more capacity is better than muzzle energy, you're going to stand still and mag dump when ambushed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >open carry makes you a target (then makes confused noises when reminded that cops open carry)
      So cops are generally not targets?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ask this question in public, I dare you to look this stupid outdoors.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >.380 is an ineffective round for self defense
      Do people actually say this unironically? I thought it was generally understood that .380 is the least powerful cartridge that's effective for self defense. The arguments against it aren't that it's a popgun caliber (like .25 ACP), they're that most .380 handguns are straight blowback and so they'll actually have more recoil than a locked breech 9mm, and that because of several reasons you're almost always better off buying a 9mm handgun and using light loads than buying a .380.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Splitting hairs on caliber in general is cringe. Even a .22 is better than nothing. I have no source, but I’d imagine most threats can be solved by just flashing the gun.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wouldn't bet my life on just flashing a gun though. Using an optimal cartridge that you can fit into your lifestyle is the best way of thinking.
          A .22 is very different from .380 so there's no splitting hairs there, but I believe the issue with .380 is the inability to get reliable ammunition to expand or penetrate. Also the guns built for 380 are all wrong in trying to make it a mouse gun caliber and you end up with snappy pistols. 9mm is a small step up in size but huge in performance.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the inability to get reliable ammunition to expand or penetrate
            But isn't the thing about .380 how you don't really need expanding ammo to achieve favorable terminal ballistics?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Meh, I've heard people packing fmj just for that reason but it sounds like new fuddlore to me. I take the guesswork out of it by just using 9mm. I commend anyone that goes and tests their 380 ammo with meat targets and water jugs if they want to use it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >.380 is the least powerful cartridge that's effective for self-defense.
        I've heard that same dumbass statement said to defend 9mm and .40 S&W. Meanwhile .380 is penetrating less gel than .32 ACP when fired out of a barrel of the same length.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you have a modified gun you get sentenced to 5000 years in a klendathu supermax when using it in a justified self defense shoot

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That bullets initially rise upon leaving the barrel due to aerodynamics.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This one is kind of understandable if you don't understand ballistics.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is true though in a crosswind
      >Aerodynamic jump is the resulting vertical deflection due to a disturbance to the bullet spin axis from a pure crosswind at the muzzle.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Used to think this, because I thought of them like footballs.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not the worst, but this happened yesterday:
    >be me
    >go innadoor range b/c pollution is so shit outside rn
    >shooting my MP5 and MP5K
    >have both SBRs and all my gear are in a shorty double rifle case
    >set case on the bench and begin opening smaller pockets, removing mags, gloves, bandana, etc.
    >boomer walks up to me from behind
    >tells me that the case needs to be rotated 90 degrees in case the guns go off on their own while still in the case

    I hadn't opened the compartment with the rifles yet. I know to remove them pointing down range, duh. Plus there's the fact that they are pointed in opposite directions within the bag, so he was really asking that 1 be pointed at him (it case it magically shot itself in the case). And never mind the fact that people cary their guns in cases around the store and range everyday. The issue of where the case is pointing apparently only matters when at the bench.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >a .22lr needs distance in order to pick up enough speed to kill
    >shooting someone point blank with a .22 will barely hurt them, but out at 100 yards it'll do some real damage
    My moronic father invented this piece of fuddlore and I can't get it out of his head. For some reason he thinks a .22lr works like a fricking gyrojet. Literally every time we're drinking and the bullet gets mentioned he goes "That .22 is a good bullet, always needs some distance though. No good for short range," and I have to stop myself from calling him a moron or getting into the same circular argument that he won't remember anyway.
    The closest I've been able to get to figuring it out is that back when he was younger and the mob/Mafia was doing hits around Boston, they tried killing a guy by shooting him point blank in the back a dozen times with a .22 pistol, and he survived. But at some point over the years, he's heard of people getting hit and killed by a stray .22 bullet from like 50 yards away. Yet he grew up shooting .22 shorts and other boomer childhood tiny calibers at tin cans in his back yard. So he unironically thinks that a 10/22 is a close range BB gun and a .22lr Colt SAA is as deadly as an AR but only at long ranges, or he's fricking with me and just looking moronic in the process

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >if you put too little gunpowder in a case it can detonate
    This has never been scientifically proven. It's much more likely morons are blowing their guns apart when they accidentally double or triple dose gunpowder when loading subsonics with pistol powders.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've heard my fudd hunting buddy once say that .308 is too little for moose. I wouldn't choose it for moose but it's basically almost on par with 30-06 which is what I use.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "25 acp is worse than 22 short" when 25 acp is legitimately twice as powerful as a 22 short out of a given weapon

    the rated velocity on rimfire ammo is for a 16 inch barrel. a rifle. sure as shit not a 3 inch pocket pistol. if you chronograph 22 out of a beretta jetfire a standard velocity 40 grain 22lr goes like 600 m/s, and a high velocity 40 grain 22lr goes like 850 m/s. 25 acp shoots a 50 grain bullet at 750 fps. it's competing with the absolute best 22lr ammo, not the absolute worst

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s hilarious that stuff millennoomers say is now considered fuddlore. Father Time is undefeated.

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anything thay gets said on/ARG/

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I once worked with a guy who as a kid was shot by his friend who was going to show him his dad's 22 long rifle Marlin rifle. This guy swears up and down that the reason he survived was because he was shot just an inch away from the muzzle. He said if he was across the room the bullet would have had more room to pick up speed. He said the doctor told him this.

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I get the idea behind 6.8 and I love the idea of going forward in the gun world but 6.8 as it relates to the military is based in armor vs ammo while sill providing volume of fire. As far as my civvy self is concerned, /brg/ becomes the way to go, and .308 becomes king again. Marksmanship and availability > the most cutting edge possible design that may not be so obtainable

    Get all the 6.8 guns you want because it's /k/ to have an autistic arsenal, but I'm domestic SHTF minded when we're talking guns as it relate to battle. I don't think I can beat the options and applications .308 (or any .30 for that matter) has while 6.8 remains as niche as it undoubtedly is today. We'll get there but ffs I can't justify it for myself currently given what's already prolific.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >".30-06 is still the best chambering in 2005+19"

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you're not supposed to carry a full magazine with one in the chamber

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    45 ACP is actually a more powerful cartridge than 44 Magnum because it has a higher number

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