what's the military advantage of this? I would think it would make more sense to evacuate civilians. like what good would conscripting tourists do? I doubt they have the supplies to even equip them
what's the military advantage of this? I would think it would make more sense to evacuate civilians. like what good would conscripting tourists do? I doubt they have the supplies to even equip them
Now that the Donbass has been successfully geocoded together with all of russians minorities, bums, hobos, gopniks and half its prison and elderly population, its time to tap in to the next reserve of manpower
Tourists aren't residents.
That one chugger from crimea won't be happy to hear this.
on the bright side, he might finally lose his virginity
I don't think getting fricked to death on a Ukrainian's bayonet counts.
i think he meant the "discipline measures" common in therussian army
They are going to move from region to region with press gangs, hoovering up anyone they can find to throw into monke's meatgrinder. Last of all will be Moscow, but it's time WILL come.
What oblasts did they conscript from so far? AFAIK in Ukraine it's all been contractors and paid volunteers, since without an official war even military can just leave.
They press ganged some conscripts into service and forced them to sign contracts. In general you are right though, the vast majority of people are contract soldiers. With an emphasis on Buryats, Chechens and other remote and barely literate people.
So the old news I remember about piece-meal mobilization in the neighboring oblasts didn't come to fruition?
tbh if I was a Ukie and I captured a chinkoid or chechen I'd just kill them immediately. Safe to say they've stolen something or raped someone.
Doesn't Crimea get its water from Ukraine? The frick will they do if the water gets cut off?
>The frick will they do if the water gets cut off?
Yea well but does BG's piss not fall under the sanctions?
Crimea is literally surrounded by water you moron
Anon.
You cannot drink saltwater.
So boil it then
have you ever tried that? do you know how much energy that takes? where are you gonna dump the left over brine? shit is poisonous to all plants
Decadent, wasteful westerners detected. You simply use leftover brine to boil pelmeni and you don't need to add extra salt.
Gentlemen - this is how a lot of old desalination plants work. They boil seawater to get fresh water.
Boil the water, condense it in a heat exchanger that heats the incoming water, salt is left behind in a hot brine that you use to heat the incoming water as well.
Therefore most of the energy is recycled, they're still not as efficient as a modern reverse osmosis unit but they work.
Umm, back in the ocean?
that'll just leave the salt
boiling desalts water? for someone who lives off vodka, you should know the difference between boiling and distillation and what requires what in the process
Isn't that why you add salt to pasta waster?
how old are you?
You add salt to get the pasta to taste better. Boiling increases the concentration of salt, since water disappears as steam but the salt stays behind. Assuming you started with tap water though this'll never get you to the point where it'll make for good pasta on its own though, and so you add extra salt.
>Boiling kills the salt
Black person, just have a nice day, you're done
We have a genius here.
One of the first things that the Russians did was to blow a dam, because getting fresh water to Crimea was too expensive.
Didn't it drown several Russian troops?
That was a different incident
Lel it was more moronic than that. The canal the water flowed down had dried out, and it needed maintenance before water should have been sent down it again. I'm not sure on the specifics, but they fricked the canal so Crimea still isn't getting water from Ukraine. And they might need to repair the dam so they can dry out the canal to do the repair work. Which they can't do during a war.
checked and keked, do you have source on that? I need a good laugh
In another universe where Russia was actually competent they had a desalination plant or a couple built there after their "referendum", and maybe even some investment into a backup plan with heavy pipes running a second source from the eastern side of things.
Ours is not that universe.
It's not about competence, it's to ensure Crimea is dependent upon them for protection.
you sound like someone who drank a lot of salt water as a child
Based fellow saltwater drinker. Big "Fresh"water are always trying to keep us saltbros down
Seagull shit enemas.
They don't since 2014, russia is providing Crimea with both water and electricity. Well, they do get water from Ukraine now, after the floodgates were blown, but experts say it's not suitable for drinking because the canal is fricked.
>We don't need Crimea
Good. More traitors to be killed on the frontlines. Russia is unironically doing Ukraine a favour.
Between the separatists being wiped-out and now what seems like the Crimeans. I wonder what is going to happen to those areas once the war is over. I mean those place are filled with fantastic farmland that is going to go fallow due to being utterly depopulated.
I'm starting to think that Ukraine may consider land grants and citizenship to foreigners willing to repopulate those regions. Just imagine an English speaking autonomous region in eastern Ukraine. Hell, with everything the Russians left behind, you could probably put together a pretty nice, fully mechanised regional militia. Basically a /k/olony.
Not a chance in hell. What you're describing is a reverse version of the Russian diaspora in various former Soviet states that has been a thorn in their governments ever since.
The East and South-East are full of resources and farmland, as you said. You don't need a population. It'll just be like Iowa. Or Dakota with oil and gas. Cities will be de-populated except for everything needed for resource extraction, farming and the services that those people need.
The traitors will die or flee to Russia. Everyone else will move to Kyiv, Odessa, etc, to be closed to Europe where all the economic activity is (apart from farming and resource extraction). Ukraine's population will definitely decline by another few million (diehard Russia traitors fleeing). The ones that stay behind will be the ones who want to build a new nation. A net positive, if you will.
>I wonder what is going to happen to those areas once the war is over.
Ever seen pictures of Detroit? They just sort of sit there and fall over until they get rebuilt.
> fantastic farmland that is going to go fallow
Farming does well under mechanization. I'm sure it'll follow same trend as USA, where farms are just getting more and more massive with less actual "farmers" and laborers.
The "small farms" in my hometown were 5000 acres and there were a handful. Now it's just one guy with like 40,000 acres that bought all those out. Assume same happens there, bc that's when happens when you get access to capital... you buy more land and spend more on better tractors.
>I mean those place are filled with fantastic farmland that is going to go fallow due to being utterly depopulated.
Not even remotely; the Russian occupation in 2014 displaced a massive number of Ukranians who didn't want to live under the vatnik boot and plenty of them are going to stream back in once its under Ukranian control. I would also be surprised if Ukraine didn't start to offer some pretty significant incentives (those USD go a long way in that part of the world) to get the ball rolling again regarding agriculture because that's the bread and butter of their economic relevance.
Unless Ukraine gets some fantastic safety guarantees they might have trouble getting people to return to near the border in case the Russians sperg out again
>where do you want your McBruger bases placed Zelenskyy?
Despite all the talk about vatniks being subhuman, they and Ukies really do share a national trait of very, very high risk tolerance. Besides, an invasion like thid can only happen once in a generation. People moving in will know the warning signs and will leg it early enough to escape if they see them
He is correct actually, UA already plans on building more infrastructure in the west. Lots of people got relocated there, they have nowhere to return to. I can see eastern UA being way less populated overall, while west having a population increase over next years too.
>an invasion like thid can only happen once in a generation
Killing ukies is a national idea of ruzzia, with UA being independent they can't survive. So no, not even from this PoV is the place safe.
I wouldn't be surprised if you saw a Polish and Belarussian minority increase in quantity, since both countries have provided men and the Poles have provided materiel to Ukraine's defense. Easier cultural transition and unlike Russian subhumans they're not just fifth columnists waiting for their programming to be activated.
I'm literally planning to buy some land there and start a business post war so as to get an EU passport when they join.
It's not for tourists, it's for residents of Crimea that will now experience the downside of being part of glorious Rossiya.The owners of all of the luxury seaside dachas of course are exempted from being handed a Moisin and sent to die for Tsar Vladimir.
>exempted from being handed a Moisin and sent to die for Tsar Vladimir.
Nah, only one moisin per two conscripts. The one with the rifle shoots, the one without the rifle follows.
According to public known military deaths, Crimea is already one of the top oblasts by death, now they will make Buryatia look like a joke
>what's the military advantage of this?
More dead Russians
basado
>Russia is actually denazifying Ukraine.
I'm shocked.
Lmao, enjoy getting press-ganged into the Russian army you idiots
>I would think it would make more sense to evacuate civilians.
dude Russia barely cares about their own soldiers, not at all about Donbabwean meat shields and you expect them caring about civilians?
Evacuating civvies is an admission that Crimea is not safe. Since this wasn't done earlier, that means that it WAS safe before and now isn't. A signal that the military situation has not necesarely developed to Russia's advantage. That is an unacceptable admission, and therefore the civvies must be kept in Crimea, by force if necessary
Aren't a lot of the people in Crimea now kids of FSB et al?
Conscripted tourists you say?
>IT'S A HOLIDAY IN DONBABWEA
>SUCKS TOVARISCH, BUT IT'S LIFE
>IT'S A HOLIDAY IN DONBABWEA
>DON'T FORGET TO BEAT YOUR WIFE
Which is still an absolute banger of a song
I thought russia basically filled crimea to the brim with army general families. I doubt they recruit them
Fake ukranians about to get fricked up