whats the best military LMG around right now? Posted on March 10, 2023 by PrepHole Contributor whats the best military LMG around right now?
M60E6 Denmark stays winning
fpbp, M60 is now good
aren't those gpmg?
PKM, although lack of contracts is the only thing keeping the answer from being "Knight's LAMG"
It was recently brought to my attention that light/medium/heavy/GP machine guns—unlike submachineguns—are classified based on how much they weigh and how they're deployed, not what caliber they're in, so I understand your confusion.
its kinda heavy
>9.3 kg unloaded
Type 81 lmg vastly superior
NGSW is all about equipping soldiers with guns to deal with afghan PKMs, so PKM.
Maybe XM250 if the trials weren't rigged.
i really dont get their cope with pkms
why didnt they just buy pkms of their own, or equip more soldiers with FN MAGs or something.
is there a term for massively overcorrecting for a shortcoming that you could apply a far faster cheaper and easier quick fix for?
The issue was overcoming differences of positioning. The problem wasn't the US lacking PKM equivalents, but rather overmatching a PKM while it's 800 meters above you while you're stuck in a valley.
thats a tactical problem not a 'gun isnt good enough' problem. you cant solve that by making a new gun without new basic technology unless you're willing to accept massive drawbacks like heavy weight and reduced ammo.
>unless you're willing to accept massive drawbacks like heavy weight and reduced ammo.
Anon..... where have you been the last 5 years? That's EXACTLY what the Army did.
theyre still using m4 and minimi tho
the whole thing with replacing them was a meme
>why haven't they adopted something that just got approved last year??
B8 or retarded, this is your last (you) from me.
It's not about PKMs per se, that's just for slide decks that tactically illiterate politicians can nod along with and sign off. It's about finding a way for infantry to do their job in a battlespace where sensors and fires have gotten so good that you can't aggregate to squad level. You still need to seize and hold ground, and the fundamental requirements for doing it haven't changed, but you need to find a way to do it with infantrymen who are physically much further apart than they previously have been. The reason Generals ticked off 6.8 is that it answers questions like "How can a squad in defence spread over the area that used to be a battalion sized MDP achieve mutual support by interlocking arcs?"
>The reason Generals ticked off 6.8
That's the newest post hoc excuse. The original justification was "556 doesn't have enough stopping power for CQB in Iraq."
Let's hear your explanation for that.
>stopping power for CQB in Iraq
If you're going to repeat bullshit rumors by E3s who are mad that they'll have to carry a rifle instead of a PDW at least pick the right one: Afghanistan, regaining the quarter mile.
Bolt actions saw a comeback in Afghanistan because "close quarter" engagements below 3 or 400 metres would be dominated by low recoiling 5.56 and grenades drowning out any fire the Taliban could muster.
But longshot pot shots left them more enough space to melt and reengage at will.
It's junk. Reliable junk, but junk none the less
I'm sorry your parents were related genetically.
I love it so much bros
Probably the correct answer for how much it gets used.
only right answer ITT
Unironically actually fucking nuts, I wish the rifle equivalent wasn't pointless though
Not with that non-field replaceable pencil barrel.
Either they need to thicken up that barrel, or they need to drop the suppressor concept and make them quick change.
As is with that pissing hot 6.8NGSW cartridge its going to overheat quick.
>first belt fed 5.45 literally EVER
>Russia decides to "adopt" RPK-16 instead
>4 years later still using RPK 74s
Should have been our first warning things were amiss in the Russian MIC
>Should have been our first warning things were amiss in the Russian MIC
AK-12 should've been your first warning. The entire debacle with the real, 2015-vintage AK12 being shitcanned, the piece of shit new 2020-vintage """"AK-12"""", and of course the very fact that Russia did not have an optic-equipped rifle as a standard issue infantry longarm in the year of our Lord 2015, in the first place. Even if it was some kind of blurry, fucked up x4 fixed Soviet optic from the 1980's, Russia should have had it as standard issue by the early 2010's at least. No such luck. But there were much more serious signs of course, not just the infantry small arms.
What were the other signs?
The obvious ones were Armata, Su-57, and the general state of the Kuznetsov
How fucking hard is it just to copy ACOG's for everything? For fucks sake the USSR had the best battlefield optic (PSO-1) back in the 19fucking60's and they somehow couldn't make a version for infantry? What in the absolute fuck was Russian MOD even doing?
Optics cost a lot to make.
The tech and ability to make lenses isn't easy to develop or maintain.
bro, cells were literally discovered by a Danish janitor who made microscopes in his spare time as a hobby
shit can't be that difficult
He was a dutch cloth merchant.
AKA a super rich dude.
>>4 years later still using RPK 74s
Hello. Russian army ditched RPK 74 around 2000-2005
You kinda stuck in the cold war and operation flashpoint era
No, it fucking hasn't. Every "replacement" etc died on the prototype stage. It's all RPK 74 and PKM/PKP with no optics.
RPK74 was repalced by PKM. No more RPK. SVD dicthed. No more SVD.
So say rumors. Officially Russian squad ROE is classified.
Ok, you're not getting another response, troll. Fuck your mother.
It is ditched from the squad TOE.
SVD are used by snipers. Its sniper squad in the battalion IIRC. Also recon platoon has several SVDs.
>svd was supposed to be used by squad's marksman directly under nco
sounds reasonable for me
5.45 belt fed was already designed in 70s
Why couldn't they just scale down the PKM. How fucking hard could it be. Then they can beef the real PKM up so that it can become a true GPMG with no restrictions on quantity of fire
>removable belt-fed adapter on an assault rifle
I'm sure that worked splendidly, especially with sustained full-auto
KBP actually built these puppies?
IDF GF WHEN?
Didn't this have a bunch of durability issues?
Only correct answer in here
real chad hours
>Weights as much as 240B
>338 Lapua Magnum
Ah the Arma 3 standard infantry firearm. Fond KOTH memories of the entire squad simultaneously trading out with one naked guy rocking nothing but this and a boonie hat.
projectile vomit emojii
>brief month period these were used as DMRs instead.
Damn now i want one.
Not an lmg. Was never supposed to be used to suppress with sustained fire but with accurate deliberate fire instead.
First UOR for a dmr was rejected because l86 exists. They added a “in 7.62” requirement to get what they wanted.
minimi and its variants
oh my back
oh my knees
the mass of pkms and M240s are fine, but you draw the line at m249s? weak bitch.
"Light" machine-gun, you fucking gay. Why don't I bring (drag) an M2 Browning into a room clearing or a trench assault as well? It kills anything and one shot and can much through walls! Super-powerful. Fuck you.
If it's THIS fucking heavy, it's better be shooting a full power cartridge. It can't? Into the trash it goes. The USMC is on point with replacing it with M27 IAR.
>What is suppressive fire
>all the KAC shills
>they forget to pay tribute where it's due
Is that the Colt thing that they only made like 3 of? OP asked for "military LMGs" "right now" and the Colt CMG is neither.
The ultimax is in service
I bet an MG42 would tear her apart real good.
not surprised to see PrepHole has no fucking clue what an LMG is. Just a bit disappointed.