What's the best China could do with military aid to Russia while still getting away relatively unscathed?
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What's the best China could do with military aid to Russia while still getting away relatively unscathed?
trucks, medical supplies
I think they could even give them some tracked medevac vehicles to test out, idk what China uses.
Why would they want to help Russia? They benefit more from a weak Russia.
They also benefit from a weak West.
Certainly true, but they could also take advantage of Russia's current situation to strongarm them into a deal that's unfavorable in the long term (such as demanding access to resources in Siberia in exchange for sneaking military aid through North Korea as a proxy or whatever)
>They benefit more from a weak Russia.
Yes, but a Russia that still exists. Strategic victory for China would be turning Russia into a vassal state.
russia is arguing that by helping russia they are weakening usa and west which means easier taiwan adventure
that's a pretty dumb case because they're not even fighting the US
true but the idea is that usa wastes money and supplies helping ukraine and builds a 'resistance' from public and politicians over warfare in general so that when china does their adventure there is limited stocks and will power to contest it, especially if an aircraft carrier gets lost.
This is a retarded idea, Afghanistan received extreme bipartisan support after 9/11 and Pearl Harbor much the same
Sinking a carrier will just poke a sleeping giant but bugs and sandmorons never seem to learn
This is retarded because it reads like Russia is basing this all off Western gotcha headlines, most of whats being sent to Ukraine is either surplus, or is fresh out of the factory that was already earmarked for foreign aid. They're not reaching into active US arsenals, taking material directly from US units and sending them. Its stuff thats been designated surplus, that still has a dollar value that has to be accounted for.
If the Chinese are as smart as they believe, then they wouldn't fall for this shit because the US is not being hampered at all by sending aid to Ukraine.
Its just vatmorons huffing copium that China will magically bail them out
They'll bail them out the day after Europe freezes and Poland moves to retake Lwów
Theull be too busy taking eastern Russia to give them access to more ocean
China has already bought out a lot of Siberia. Stealing the far east gives Russia the excuse to seize those Chinese investments.
I am sure antagonizing China on top of everything else will go over just fine for Putin
The Siberian gas and extra ocean territory will be worth it and China doesn't give a fuck about the capitalists in its country.
Those "capitalists" are state owned entities doing the bidding of the CCP you stupid fuck
China isnt interested in access to just another contained lake like the Sea of Japan. They want open access to the Open Pacific, which is only possible after their seizure of Taiwan and the establishment of naval bases there.
For this to happen, they dont need any surviving people on Taiwan, nor their industries. Even an irradiated Taiwan will be able to eventually host naval bases, so China's minimum goal is very very low bar.
Russia already provides China with whatever they need to keep their war industry going in exchange for support in dual use tech and supplies to 3rd states like Iran and North Korea who in return directly aid Russia.
>China isnt intetested in furthering its pressure on Japan while getting more ocean to mess with
You cant pressure Japan by having access to the Sea of Japan, since Japan imports like nothing across that sea, but from the Taiwan strait and the Pacific.
China will be able to force Japan to pay all reparations they need once they cut them off from their pacific trade routes, which will be a thing after they have Taiwan.
>No we neeeed to get ourselves nuked to oblivion to implement a plan we wont be able to finish!
Nuke war is a great reset. China missed out on the opportunity 400 years ago to colonize the world due to the White Man, but a nuclear cleansing of the world will allow them to redo it all.
The American empire being ended in nuclear hellfire and the disparate races and people all plunged back to tribalism is a prize worth sacrificing most of China's cities for.
China is a civilization state that will always eventually find back together and get united by the next imperial tyrant to reestablish the Chinese empire, so they will persist, but the US "melting pot" is one of its kind and a historical anomaly that wont survive the nuclear cleansing.
Then Ill see you fucking deluded chinks in hell. For a nation state supposedly so old you all act like children.
It was Biden who said that he will destroy Taiwan, not the Chinese.
If China can help it, they will spare as much of Taiwan as possible during their invasion, but the US will most likely do a scourched earth policy there to prevent China from getting TSMC.
But little does Biden know that China literally just wants to have that island for its geography alone and doesnt care for the industries or people so much.
So in the end, Taiwan will be a completely destroyed place but China will still achieve their goal.
China will be fucking flattened if it tries. You already admitted Taiwan is a red line that cant be crossed, the US will not allow China to take the Pacific. Enjoy getting your Dams nuked
then we return to this:
You reset China by 100 years and require them to redo their unification wars, while China and Russia ends you rightly so that you can never crawl upright again.
Because you wont dare to unload your entire arsenal on China and be exposed to Russian nukes, so you will automatically nuke Russia as well, attempting to take both of your rivals out. And Russia will of course respond in kind.
You can gloat about your mighty China rising up when you're dead Chang. Fallen empires don't get back up.
China fell 1000s of times and always rose up, because they are not some artificial construct like the US is, but an organically grown nation that inhibits the lands from which they emerged since neolithic age.
But you wont see that China because youll die in a stupid nuclear conflict over a damn island.
America will die too, if they wish to stake their entire existence over some island 8000 miles away.
America has the choice of sharing the pacific with China by accepting Taiwan's reunification or die together.
Then we both die over your stupid little prince ago, welcome to MAD. At least the soviets were smart enough to understand this.
In the end, you will accept China taking Taiwan. You are ruled by Blackrock and Goldmann Sachs. Ask them if they want to live in bunkers and enjoy their champaign and caviar in irradiated lands.
Still at least in the general area that China is now.
For you; you will have to go back to an irradiated Saxony, Britain, Spain or Ireland, courtesy of Russia.
In the end, you will die either in 50 years from now or in a few years in nuclear hellfire without ever hearing that China has taken Taiwan.
Considering I have Native American ancestors I’d have to go back to France or Northern Michigan / Montreal….
Maybe the nuclear hellfire is acceptable
Then go back to your ancestral lands
Yes, amphibious invasions are well known for being both simple and easy
It gets easier when the other side has been cratered to hell and starved and besieged for a couple month or so.
Taiwan is an island and has to import like 99% of everything they need to survive. A constant missile and rocket campaign against their civilian infrastructure will most likely make the majority of their military surrender already. Some outlying islands understand this and have declared neutrality/surrender already.
So you're gonna waste months shelling Taiwan before committing troops? Thanks! That buys us plenty of time to seal China off with carriers!
Carriers wont survive within 2000km off China's coast
In fact, everything within the range of the DF-26, so up to Guam, will be no-go zone for the US.
Our missiles go further than 2000 kilometers and can destroy your dams.
Why are you so obsessed with dams? China's missile factories are not anywhere near the dam or their downriver cities.
You destroy the dam and kill a couple million people.. And still wont be able to stop China's military industry from outproducing you in missiles. You will run out of carriers and warships before China runs out of missiles in any case.
We lose our Navy, you lose your entire country
China can build 2 us navy in a year if they want to. You are gonna lose more than your navy
>If they want to
They would have to in peace time which gives the US the chance to react.
>muh ballistic missiles
>this same map again
Get a life, loser
An irradiated Taiwan also implies Beijing is radioactive amd inhospitable
Still worth it.
Xishan bunkers are deep and have been expanded since the 50s and China will get all the wealth of the open pacific in exchange for a nuked US, nuked Taiwan and nuked collective West.
China will eventually recover and rule the ashes in a world without white people.
>which is only possible after their seizure of Taiwan and the establishment of naval bases there.
They come out just fine
>"KIEV IN 3 DAYS SLAVA PUTIN"
>1 year later
>"when the chinese send us enough aid we will be able to capture Bakhmut! It is almost the end for the piggies*~~"
>true but the idea is that usa wastes money and supplies helping ukraine and builds a 'resistance' from public and politicians over warfare in general
this is so staggeringly stupid that I refuse to believe it on principle
this is russia's idea.
>so staggeringly stupid
you think THAT is stupid? the russians on their state media literally stated the easiest way to win the war was to get usa to stop helping and to do that you should 'hit us personnel' not 'hundreds' but 'thousands' and they cited vietnam as proof of concept of how that would work. they literally think hitting some base of us soldiers and killing 4,000 soldiers and shit would make usa go
>whoa this guy is serious, we're out
so they literally do think that china is aligned with their interests to destroy the anglo and therefore china helping russia is helping itself in the long run
A Russian implosion would give the US nuclear supremacy over China.
Right now the US could likely launch an effective first strike on China with limited counterstrike, but they would end up being left pretty high and dry against Russia.
Take Russia out of the equation and things get much more dangerous for China.
What the fuck am I looking at?
Not sure where it's from but I think it's a parody of the Russian polandball propaganda
Tactical nuclear HATO bugs?
Well WHERE ARE THEY?
its theoretically possible Putins the kind of man who would purposefully sacrifice a million men to lull enemy into false sense of security
>Communist propaganda of the time claimed that the insect was being dropped from parachutes and balloons
Why not? The communists in my country were retarded enough to drop wild animals from parachutes as part of ecological programs.
And the most ardent supporters of the party were retarded peasants who had a genetic predisposition for inventing conspiracy theories
>Vasil is richer than me not because he works harder or has wealthier parents, but because he is robbing me somehow
>My vines died not because I am retarded and let it get infested with phyolxera, but because the Americans deliberately injected my yards with poison
>The mayor, doctor and the gendarme are here to kill my goats because they hate the peasantry, not because I am retarded and smuggled in plague-ridden goats from Turkey
These are not a laughing matter
I don't understand this image
It's Luka fighting a potato beetle kaiju
Lukashenko in Starship Troopers, but the bug is a Colorado potato beetle.
By supply non weapons stuff that Russia can't produce, Russia can't afford Chinese military aid.
Russian are all eating Chinese MRE right now.
>Russian are all eating Chinese MRE right now.
As if being a mobik wasn't bad enough already
Chinese military ratio got pretty good reviews on YouTube. Much better than Russian ones lol
Oh god, that stuff made steeve 1989 sick, and he ate so many expired MREs that his blood could make a universal antitoxin. He ate over a 100 year old ration withouth trouble but the brand new PLA MRE landed him in the hospital
It is unfortunate for Russia that Russia is not as good at prosecuting wars as it is at lying.
>Blow by blow
>What's the best China could do with military aid to Russia while still getting away relatively unscathed?
mine is get the fuck out from Ukraine
Tanks, missiles, planes. Anything Russia needs. No one is going to sanction China.
Russia is the world's largest supplier of both fuel and grains, no one would dare sanction them either
Russia is still supplying grain and fuel
Western chud armies are too weak to fight WW3
>to fight WW3
I wouldn't describe it was fight but murder
>No one is going to sanction China.
if we gonna WWIII the sanctions are the least of their worries
Already did with chip manufacturing and China got sent back 10 years
Aid? What aid?
*several new yachts have appeared in port*
>best China could do with military aid to Russia
Like, to aid the Russian people and country as a whole?
Liquidate their leadership and drop in a few CCP goons.
Seriously that'd be the best thing they could do for Russia at this point, just give em the Old Yeller behind the woodshed and move on.
Chinese T-72A tank upgrade package on the way to Russia
Are there actually any vatnik posts out there coping China will bail them out? I feel like I've seen some but can't remember
Anything they want.
If anything, the Chinks should demand modern ASML fab equipment in exchange for not supplying the Russians.
>If anything, the Chinks should demand modern ASML fab equipment in exchange for not supplying the Russians.
they won't get shit lmao
>HELP ME CHINA, I'M WINNING