What's that? Cuben fiber mogs any shell layer you've ever owned? Wow, huh, thanks for the tip OP!

What's that? Cuben fiber mogs any shell layer you've ever owned? Wow, huh, thanks for the tip OP!

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Cuben fiber
    is it made with tobacco leaves?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it's dyneema fabric. 1.5oz/sqyd, >20k water column, breathability 56,000+ g/m^2/24hr, and very durable

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >1.5oz/sqyd
        Is that light or heavy in this context? Or rather did they use the strength of the dyneema fibers to create an extra light or an extra strong fabric?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Very light. A size large weighs 6oz., less than half of most gore-tex shells on the market and about half the price of comparable high-end jackets

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Dyneema is far stronger than nylon, so at a given weight it's stronger. Most brands use this advantage to make lighter products. I believe it is also less elastic than nylon as well, which is good for tent material.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >very durable
        except that you can poke a hole into it with an unsharpened pencil. tear resistant maybe.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So it's a new membrane material?

          UHWMPE is the material. think of it like better but much more expensive nylon. dyneema/spectra/cuben fiber/etc are brand names for a composite fabric made out of it. right now there's no cheap and widely available way to make a woven fiber textile out of it. once there is, it will be a straight upgrade to nylon.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyneema_Composite_Fabric
          right now you only find it in flimsy ultralight gear for 2 reasons:
          its really expensive right now so it only makes sense to make lighter weight garments with less material right now. when it gets cheaper you'll see rugged bags and garments made of thicker UHWMPE fabrics.
          woven UHWMPE fabrics aren't really on the market yet.
          right now its kind of meh, i'm not a fan of it, but it will eventually replace nylon once woven UHWMPE is cheap.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          once woven UHWMPE is on the market and cheap it will be way more puncture resistant than nylon.
          the reason nylon is better right now isn't because of the chemical properties of nylon, its just because its woven.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            also because of the noise. Have you ever tried sleeping in a dyneema tent? its shit. Nobody will buy your shit rabbi.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >noise
              not even worth mentioning, because nylon is also noisy.

              moron people on PrepHole always liked wool, fuck off to reddit because you're the discord chud.

              the merino wool trend started on reddit & came right from the marketing department. its not that merino wool isn't good, its that you guys make wild claims about it that aren't true. i even see posts on here acting like merino wool is a replacement for a rain shell. you got garden gnomeed.

              >spraying it with a coat of plastic
              [Citation needed]

              yes they do. its called superwash aka hercosett-125. if your merino wool garment is machine washable, it probably has superwash. patagonia's the only major brand that doesn't use it.
              https://medium.com/@austinhoefs/when-wool-is-no-longer-wool-9925f2c7fcfe
              https://oecotextiles.blog/2009/08/11/what-does-organic-wool-mean/
              https://webgate.ec.europa.eu/life/publicWebsite/index.cfm?fuseaction=search.dspPage&n_proj_id=2888
              https://www.woolwise.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/07.1-Functional-Finishes-Presentation.pdf

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Dyneema underwear. When?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i wish nobody ever told me about merino underwear. shits are $80 a pair and hardly last a year before they fall apart.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Can't wait until dyneema panties keep my circumcised pipi well protected.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >being a cutlet
                merino wool merkins, when?
                one time my american foreskin chafed so hard on my polyester shorts that the tip started bleeding down my leg.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >merino wool trend
                >you guys make wild claims about it that aren't true.
                No
                My normal wool sweaters can be just as soft as merino and I can wear them in 30C heat or -20C on their own. That's what people have always done, literally for thousands of years.
                You'll just have to leave the basement and convince your mommy to knit you a thin wool sweater and you are set for all outdoor adventures. No trend. Tradition.
                Wool is the ideal base and warmthlayer, always has been.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Don't need anything else under my jacket.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You'll just have to leave the basement and convince your mommy to knit you a thin wool sweater and you are set for all outdoor adventures. No trend. Tradition.
                >Don't need anything else under my jacket.
                i have a whole storage bin full of merino, coarse, alpaca, bison, cashmere etc wool garments. i used to source textiles for filson, one of the oldest outfitters that still exists. i know what i'm talking about lol. anything i say you can test for yourself and replicate.
                marketing slogan: merino wool is warm when wet.
                accurate representation: merino wool retains more insulation than cotton or synthetics, until its half-saturated. after which it is the same.
                you can see how it leads to anons thinking wearing a wool sweater = no need for a rain jacket, right? and how it could be a bit dangerous to make people think their garments have a super-power that they don't.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >wearing a wool sweater = no need for a rain jacket
                >If I deliberately misinterpret a frase in such a way that makes me seem like a total retard while camouflaging it behind a false virtue of me actually trying to help people I'm sure I will get others on board for my cause
                Wow, some fucking clown you are jesus christ man...

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                During the summer I meet a lot of outdoor business wagies on their "once in a lifetime long distance hike". They'll tell me all about their cool gear, special clothes, and things they've bought. It's always funny to watch their reactions when they notice I do everything different - just the opposite of what the marketing dep wants you to do. The truth is its all just marketing including merino, and 95% of the stuff you people sell is vain, decadent shit for twinky braindead youtube-watching citycrawling degenerate creatures.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Filsons wool sucks cock now besides their plaid original 26 oz. The same mackinaw in solid color 24 oz pills much faster.
                Even if you do source it, you suck at your job for overpriced products.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                filson sucks at everything now except the few things still made in america. yes this is true. doesn't mean i am wrong about the properties of wool.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The current way around this is to cop surplus nomex and kevlar shit. The para aramids aren’t as strong on paper as uhmwpe, but that woven stuff is incredibly tough. The nomex base layers are silky and last forever. I’ve got a few pairs of wildland firefighting pants seem for all the world like cotton, outside that they dry fast and are seemly indestructible. When my current work jacket gives up I think I’m going to track down a normie looking deck jacket and see how that does.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So it's a new membrane material?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          not that new, I first found out about these about 7 years ago.

          >very durable
          except that you can poke a hole into it with an unsharpened pencil. tear resistant maybe.

          have you tried? I've used mine for heavy bushwhacking and blue collar work, never torn or punctured whereas other jackets I've owned have gotten totally shredded

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They call me Cuben Pete. I'm the king of the Ultralight beat.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >And when I use my batonny chop chop, choppy chop chop, choppy chop chop!

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    buy an ad

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wool poncho, wool sweater, wool panties, if it isn't wool you're a fool.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Obviously no. Just do what everyone else does: state your advice to the OP, making it obvious you know your shit, then wait for the inevitable retard to reply to you acting like milsurp, wool, and frogg toggs are all you need, and just keep baiting them so they look like an even bigger retard in the end. Hopefully the OP will catch onto that, and if they don't, who cares, their loss.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      where did all these anons come from anyways? they seemed to come out of nowhere this summer. is it some elaborate discord chud trolling? some sort of tiktok trend?
      they worship wool because its "not plastic" without a cursory look into the processing that goes into a merino garment, which involves spraying it with a coating of plastic.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        moron people on PrepHole always liked wool, fuck off to reddit because you're the discord chud.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >spraying it with a coat of plastic
        [Citation needed]

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      where did all these anons come from anyways? they seemed to come out of nowhere this summer. is it some elaborate discord chud trolling? some sort of tiktok trend?
      they worship wool because its "not plastic" without a cursory look into the processing that goes into a merino garment, which involves spraying it with a coating of plastic.

      how to prove you're a chud from PrepHole.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >No
    most of the stuff i see on here about merino is a load of shit.
    "its natural" its sprayed with plastic in the curing process.
    "its warm when wet" only when mildly damp. test it yourself if you don't believe me and have a thermal camera. i constantly see anons act like a merino sweater is a replacement for a rain jacket.
    i'm not strawmanning you with either of these dumb things i see about merino on this board. i'm saying i see them get posted all the time on PrepHole.
    and yes "warm when wet" is a marketing tagline and it did take off on reddit. turbo consoooomer stuff. anons will vehemently defend this marketing slogan to their graves instead of just looking at fabric samples under a thermal camera.
    >You'll just have to leave the basement and convince your mommy to knit you a thin wool sweater and you are set for all outdoor adventures. No trend. Tradition.
    most people aren't going to put up with PrepHoleing in dry clean only garments.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Wool is the ideal base and warmthlayer, always has been.
      >Tradition
      ah yes lets harken back to a time where succumbing to the elements was normal and you had a 1/10 chance to die every time you set out on a journey, just like the oregon trail.
      the highly processed stuff you can buy today is nothing like what people used to wear. and there's obvious ethical reasons why we're not mass producing furs.

      >wool is a dry clean only garment
      lol, rest of your post just shows that you are a gay who doesnt actually go out.
      >get a thermal camera to test wet wool
      lol, you should really stop watching youtube.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >lol, rest of your post just shows that you are a gay who doesnt actually go out.
        machine washable wools are plastic coated. i didn't say machine washable wools don't exist.
        >lol, you should really stop watching youtube.
        is there any youtube video about this? i don't think so. youtube is where marketing slogans like warm when wet spread, by shills who get paid to say whatever.
        >If I deliberately misinterpret a frase in such a way that makes me seem like a total retard while camouflaging it behind a false virtue of me actually trying to help people I'm sure I will get others on board for my cause
        anons on this board claim wool is a replacement for a rain jacket all the time. i'm not going to hold your dick, use the archives and read the last few threads about rain jackets.
        i specifically stated i'm not strawmanning you, i see this retarded shit on this board a lot lately.

        During the summer I meet a lot of outdoor business wagies on their "once in a lifetime long distance hike". They'll tell me all about their cool gear, special clothes, and things they've bought. It's always funny to watch their reactions when they notice I do everything different - just the opposite of what the marketing dep wants you to do. The truth is its all just marketing including merino, and 95% of the stuff you people sell is vain, decadent shit for twinky braindead youtube-watching citycrawling degenerate creatures.

        It's always funny to watch their reactions when they notice I do everything different - just the opposite of what the marketing dep wants you to do
        yeah like when i post on PrepHole about the realistic properties of wool contrasted with how its marketed.
        is almost like the marketing department speaks through people. "b--but the marketing slogan! warm when wet!" and coming up with excuses why they shouldn't test the materials they use.
        >"once in a lifetime long distance hike"
        hah that's funny. i'm not much of an "outdoor business wagie" though. fun assumption to make. i helped filson source textiles as a favor to my friend back when she was an exec there. does forest service count as outdoor wagie? i cut down trees for a while to pay for college.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Wool is the ideal base and warmthlayer, always has been.
    >Tradition
    ah yes lets harken back to a time where succumbing to the elements was normal and you had a 1/10 chance to die every time you set out on a journey, just like the oregon trail.
    the highly processed stuff you can buy today is nothing like what people used to wear. and there's obvious ethical reasons why we're not mass producing furs.

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