What's so special about the Tomahawk? I see it creamed over a lot but have no idea why because the Wikipedia-level specs I've seen don't seem to stand out from what other countries have.
What's so special about the Tomahawk?
What's so special about the Tomahawk? I see it creamed over a lot but have no idea why because the Wikipedia-level specs I've seen don't seem to stand out from what other countries have.
Like HIMARS, it's no alien technology. It just fucking hits what it aims at.
>Like HIMARS, it's no alien technology. It just fucking hits what it aims at.
I dunno anon, if the last 2 years have taught me anything it's that precision munitions actually are an alien technology that only NATO and its allies have access to. Just look at Russia and their rusting collection of cruise missiles, only good for accurately hitting the broad side of a large municipal hospital. Then consider that a large amount of the Chinese inventory is still based off soviet designs and you'll realise they probably can't hit shit either. As for India, they literally just throw shit at the wall and see what sticks.
Well anon the broad-side-of-a-hospital missiles were actually anti-carrier missiles from the 70s that were designed to target the middle of a carrier group on open seas with a nuclear warhead, you can't really compare them to anything made in the US post GPS (so 1980-1990). Like the use of those missiles against targets on land adjacent to a city could probably be successfully prosecuted as a war crime.
The actual GNSS guided Russian munitions seem to be able to hit their targets.
>The actual GNSS guided Russian munitions seem to be able to hit their targets.
When they're not being jammed, which is one reason why they aren't used frequently the other reason being Russia simply doesn't have many or the ability to produce them at scale.
We fucking got the Russians themselves posting vids of Iskanders hitting hospitals on purpose dude
>good for accurately hitting the broad side of a large municipal hospital.
ah, ready for export to Israel I see.
They'll also need a model for schools.
It’s more to do with Russia not having the funds or stomach to invest into systems that ultimately benefit precision munitions and coping by claiming how capitalist pig merica wastes so much money into all the tech that goes into making precision strikes be effective.
Given the opportunity to spend budget on developing better satellites and making systems that talk between these newer satellites and missiles, the ruskies will just dump all that budget into more missiles.
>.As for India, they literally just throw shit at the wall and see what sticks.
Cumskin anon if you only knew. Hhaahaah even chunk tech surpasses russhit now. Iranians and North Koreans are subhuman so are most europoops
>What's so special about the Tomahawk?
It knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't.
Elaborate
please god dont
This bitch doubts the missiles knowledge of its locational whereabouts in 3 dimensional hyperspace by knowing where it isn't
I doubt it. Maybe you should, explain it to me, Ronald
It knows where it isnt so it knows where it is
It is enlightened by difference
Basically, the missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn’t from where it is, it obtains a difference or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't and arriving at a position that it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation. The variation being the difference between where the missile is and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows: Because a variation has modified some of the information that the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa. And by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
It's Rumsfeldian sublation in action.
it has a long proven track record of actually working
also there are a fuck ton of them in inventory, even if other nations have something similar, they usually haven't been used, or if they have they were used far less often, and they likely only produced a relatively small number compared to Tomawhawks.
It has the most blown up shit to its name among any medium-range missile in recent history.
The missile itself is just a turbofan on a flying pipe with better CEP than soviet-russian equivalents (the only country with a similar system before the 90s).
The ISR is what makes the difference. PGM are useless if you have no targets.
This. Google the process required to plan a TERCOM based mission and you’ll get a good idea of why a country like Russia can’t achieve the same results with (on the surface) similarly cable weapons.
You also need to know a lot about random locations in your target country's interior. The Russians fucked up in the first few hours of the Ukrainian invasion because although they were able to hit barracks and staging points in Ukraine, a lot of those locations were out of use or had just been evacuated when the missiles hit.
So it's not just about knowing "X location is host to Y unit", you need to know weird shit like the location that unit is going to move to in wartime conditions or where its wartime supply dump is going to be located. The US can do that with basically zero warning, Russia was incapable with 8+ years of prep.
This nigga is the rare /k/ommando who knows what a kill chain is.
Everyone watched that Perun video
>wikipedia-level specs
It's sea skimming, goes at high subsonic, it's got very good quality control, is containerized (so you can just throw however many of them into the back of a C-17 then put them in any ship you like as opposed to some other nations missiles that are harder to transport/install), modern ones can communicate over satellite and transmit images of their targets before their impact/can be retargeted, they're basically impossible to jam. It also has a pretty low RCS, old ones are .5 m^2 but apparently Block 5 and up are lower.
It's just a good cruise missile that's been produced enough that basically any USN destroyer will have 20+ of them at all times.
Why don't more countries operate them? So far it's only the US and UK. Compatibility? Launch platforms?
>A release by the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) on March 16 confirmed Australia has requested to buy up to 200 Tomahawk Block V All Up Rounds and up to 20 Tomahawk Block IV All Up Rounds.
>On October 4, Japan’s Defense Minister Kihara Minoru announced that Tokyo will acquire hundreds of U.S.-made Tomahawk cruise missiles as early as fiscal year 2025, moving up the original schedule by one year.
>Japan originally planned to acquire 400 Block V missiles, the latest version of the Tomahawk, in fiscal years 2026 and 2027, to be equipped onto Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF) Aegis-equipped destroyers. But Kihara and Austin decided that the acquisition period need to be brought forward one year. That will involve changing half of those missiles to the Block IV, which is a previous version of the Tomahawk.
Probably a lack of perceived need before Russia invaded Ukraine and China got even more aggressive.
>That will involve changing half of those missiles to the Block IV, which is a previous version of the Tomahawk.
That's a bit of a bummer, but they'll probably use the Block IV for system test launches and shit on their ships and reserve the Block V for a rainy day.
Block IV will do fine for basic bitch land attack
the Block V magic sauce is true antiship capability (and datalinks and GPS hardening of course)
>outdated and overcosted
compared to what, fuckhead
>Indobros what’s your thoughts on this?
"fucking perfidious anglos"
you have no idea how incredibly torqued they STILL are over the F-111
>don't seem to stand out from what other countries have.
like what?
all the Euromissiles followed in Tomahawk's footsteps
Tomahawk won the Cold War; it was a key element of the AirLand Battle strategy; it was going to do to Soviet assaults what HIMARS is doing now
Aren’t the Aussies getting them? I might be getting it confused with another missile system that they are getting.
Because other nations have no intention of using them and arent trustworthy. Plus the US UK share sub secrets which is top tier tech that very soon Australia will be able to dabble in.
Yeh very recently they got cleared for 200 or so, i think Japan too.
>200
Jesus Christ I think I’m about to cum.
Indobros what’s your thoughts on this?
They're probably having talks right now trying to figure out if they should buy 12 F-35s (they will never get them, Lockheed will take their money for consulting though), 12 S-300s, or some shit the French came up with during a cough syrup nightmare.
>Yeh very recently they got cleared for 200 or so, i think Japan too.
Netherlands and Canada too, though Canada wont have them until their new surface combatant in the early 2030s.
>and Canada too
Neat
Similar to HIMARs in that the weapon is available in massive quantities relative to similar weapons. There are other guided rockets that are on paper better than HIMARS and tomahawk but none at produced in the same volume or stockpiled at the same volume.
Nothing special, it's just a bomb strapped on a small tubojet engine. Good in the 90s, but it's outdated and overcosted
because it's taken other countries 30 years to come up with cruise missiles that are comparable to the original TLAM, let alone the latest Block variants
It's just a good solid missile
Reverse addadictomy
Dude unironically looks better now. Just needs some hair plugs to strengthen that hairline and a pair of top line bolt ons
A lot of things have insanely inflated >Wikipedia-level specs because the nations that make them like to make big claims. Tomahawk, like GMLRS, soldiers on quietly in the background without notice by wrecking shit day in day out while the unironic wonderwaffe claimed by nations like Russia are either made of lies for claimed specs or never materialize in relevant numbers.
>What's so special about the cruise missile all others are judged by?
Isn't the Tomahawk like the Sidewinder? As in modern iterations of it don't share a single screw with the ones originally made in the 1970s?
Pretty much, yes.
It's extremely mature, versatile, upgradable, and most importantly reliable while also being relatively cheap as far as cruise missiles go.
It be launched from surface ships and submerged submarines to hit targets 1000+ miles away and has a long track record of actually hitting the things it's fired at.
Modern variants have incorporated all sorts of nice features such as ability to hit moving ships, penetrating warheads, ability to be re-targeted in flight, and even ability to conduct limited ISR.
They're also not just flying telephone poles like many people in this thread seem to think. Modern versions have basically had every possible RCS reduction while maintaining the form factor. The duckbill nose cap reflects radar off to the side, the engine inlet has been recessed, the wings and tails are made of composites, RAM has been applied where necessary, and many additional miscellaneous changes. The frontal RCS of a modern tomahawk is tiny and even for modern air defenses they're very hard to find when skimming over the tops of the trees.
It's a good weapon with extensive combat history that has further honed its development and use. People also underestimate how much terrain hugging nerfs AA.
>oh no they've jammed GPS!
>oh no my accuracy is reduced by 5 meters!
>preliminary damage assessment
>It gon'
you know the shithole cope about having so many retards that they can just keep wasting them in human waves until the enemy are exhausted?
imagine that with cruise missiles instead of retards
>What's so special about the Tomahawk?
Nothing really. But it's good at what it does and unlike a lot of comparable systems it has an extensive operational history. How many cruise missiles
can say they've been fired from a battleship in actual combat? The answer: just it.
This shit right here is why i love burger military equipment
it works, and they exist. This would not in itself be remarkable were it not for the fact that boring shit that works and exists does not actually exist in most of the world.
It's the first cruise missile to be used successfully in combat in large quantities. That's really the only thing that sets it apart from, say, the Hound Dog or JASSM.
Imagine being on a boat in a non-descript patch of ocean and suddenly seeing 154 Tomahawks burst from the water
It says no step, but i would step. Hard.
>w-what are you doing stepson?
art
This kind of puts into perspective just how chode SLBMs are that they can fit tomahawks 5 in
Fun fact, same guy who was engineering lead for pic related worked on designing carbon fiber structure of 3rd stage of Trident in 70's.
>F-111
My god, how many Formulas are there?
This was No. 1 in Bongland for that year.
i was a child in the 80's and heard it on the radio in canada. eventually i bought the vinyl single when i was in college.
How do you utilize love as a warhead on a cruise missile, asking for a friend.
My guys watched the Steve Nichols interview.
Very, very informative piece of media.
Fun fact: Trident SLBM nosecones are made of plywood, specifically spruce.
Bump.
>Trident SLBM nosecones are made of plywood
Well, I learned something today.
>My guys watched the Steve Nichols interview.
Its probably the best F1 related media have ran into in years. Dispels plenty of myths surrounding MP4-4 design.
>Fun fact: Trident SLBM nosecones are made of plywood
It is perfectly good material for missile nose cone or masking radar mast structure on stealthy warship from enemy radar.
I'd cum so hard.
I want to step.
It's like an unexplained impulse to do what you are told not to.
It's just a cover right?
The consequence of a quick light tap step should be minimal right?
why are posts getting deleted?
mods/feds want people to think reddit spacing is real because they make more money when newfags type like retards
"Reddit spacing" existed before reddit did. Reddit spacing itself was created as a meme to allow newfags to out themselves as newfags. So if anyone calls you out for "reddit spacing" you know they're a new fag.
Hell moot himself would regularly "reddit space" in 2004/5
Reddit spacing is real or at least was a long time ago, I don't know if it was the site that did it or the users but they would have double line breaks
like this
Yes, but the original "reddit spacing" meme was created as a way to let newfags callout people for something that wasn't a "real" PrepHole thing.
"reddit spacing" is just a stylistic holdover of old text forums from the '90s and early '00s, which is where PrepHole spawned, and why many PrepHole users would "reddit space".
Again, if you call someone out for "reddit spacing" unironically, you're simply proving YOU'RE the newfag who doesn't understand the meme.
The only complaint I have ever had about post formatting is walls of text.
I use line breaks and paragraphs because I'm not a savage.
t. 2007 newfag that has literally never used reddit
"Reddit spacing" was needed back when all our monitors were 640x480 or even worse. It's died out with the advent of bigger monitors and while the "newfags do "reddit spacing"" meme is dumb and only perpetuated by newfags, I''m perfectly fine with posters getting harassed for having line breaks every time they finish a single short sentence like in your post. It just looks awful.
Feel free, I'll continue calling you a newfag and keep my line breaks the way I have always done them.
You can attempt to shame me into stopping, but retards have been trying for a decade now and I haven't stopped yet.
I've never done the meme, I'm just fine with seeing posters get hit by it. I'm merely letting you know spacing like this is now ugly and you deserve it.
And I'm letting you know, I don't give a single fuck, will continue to not give a single fuck going forward, and I'll happily call out anyone who calls it "reddit spacing" as a newfag.
UMAD?
Nope, just about to make some cinnamon rolls to start my morning, yourself?
>he replied
Damn, he's mad.
Lmao actually I won the argument because I said so.
Ha, bet you wish you'd thought of that one.
This is just like the old days. It warms the cockles of my heart. Keep going.
>as long as I keep replying as if I've won and anything said in response is just proving that I won, then I really did win!
It's amazing watching a toddler attempt to "win" a discussion.
Pot, meet kettle.
How so? I responded in earnest until he simply started GOING LALALALA I WIN and ignoring everything else.
I just kept pointing out the absurdity of it until he left.
Line breaks are necessary for significant topic changes since Americans are terrified of punctuation that isn't a comma, period, or exclamation mark.
Paragraphs have their place too.
t. not e.e. cummings
actually asserting things only work one way and you're correct is the ultragiga newfag revealer, newfag
People did that shit on fucking Geocities, retard. The people who do it may be pretentious, but it's not indicative of Reddit use. Being a joyless homosexual terrified of admitting you like something because you're afraid anon will tell you what you like is shit is a much bigger tell, since it means fucking nothing and has no consequences to admit you like ponies or league of legends if you don't have a name attached to your post.
You are an autist talking out your ass. Reddit spacing is because if you want to add a line separation between two paragraphs, on Reddit that means you need to input enter twice, just to have one line in between, which is a quirk of its text dialog entry. If you are a seasoned r*dditor then this habit becomes ingrained. Then if they were to visit this Rongorongo carving forum, their habit would result in needless lines being added.
If you're talking about paragraph separators like this that's just normal writing.
Retard.
The US is the king of EW, and hasn't even fought a country capable of competent EW let alone competitive EW, so its guided missiles are very good at actually hitting what they're supposed to.
There are 10,000 of them
The key here is the volume that can be deployed in a single strike, because we have a shit load, and the launch platforms are mobile and can carry a huge magazine compared to Kalibur etc (VLS).
The US has thrown 350+ TLAM strikes in the same package as 600+ tacair sorties. That's just an irresponsible amount of concentrated violence all ingressing at the same time. No other missile can match that level of mass on the tactical or operational level.
Also, with the INS toast, that means the Army and Marines are starting to test ground based launchers again.
damascus runway hit by israel
this gives an idea of what each crater looks like
Runway is fine. Just pour some concrete.
the spacing on that is crazy immaculate, it looks like a friendship bracelet that someone casually put down
bump
IIRC it was the first missile that could be given waypoints to avoid anti-air or hit targets from the best angle.
This is very common now but was cutting edge 40 years ago.
>highly accurate
>1000+ miles range
>not super stealthy but reasonably hard to detect
>battle proven, matured design
>cheap (by the white standards)
>US ships can carry dozens of them
>thousands of missiles in storage
Ohio class sub can can cary 154 of those fuckers. Just think about it - if US would be willing to directly intervene in 2022, one sub lurking somewhere in Mediterranean Sea would be enough to rape whole Crimean invasion force (navy and air force probably included).
Reliability and consistency. The tomahawk's on-paper specs aren't amazing but the missile actually performs to those specs in real life. Other countries have missiles with better specs but those specs are mostly guesses by the engineers.
>t. it came to me in a dream
name a better platform (proven) thirdie
>name a better platform (proven)
STORM SHADOW
>those specs are mostly guesses by the engineers
prove it, nagger
>storm shadow
i kneel
US still has it beat with JASSM/JASSM-ER/XR
Tomahawk is available in much larger quantities which is why it'll still see use for decades to come even if we have better missiles available. We can upgrade our inventory of tomahawks to a newer block standard faster than we can manufacture new JASSMs.
>JASSM
yes, but we were talking about the Tomahawk
>upgrade
even the oldest Tomahawks make perfectly serviceable precision strike munitions
You’re the one who brought up stealthy air launched cruise missiles in a tomahawk thread.
do you know how to follow logical trains of thought?
>TOMAHAWK IS BEST BY TEST, NO COUNTRY CAN BEAT THE TOMAHAWK
>there are better missiles
>YEAH LIKE WHAT
>Storm Shadow
>...yeah but JASSM!
that's call "moving goalposts".
Point to the post that said tomahawks were the best.
see
>the missile actually performs to those specs in real life. Other countries have missiles with better specs but those specs are mostly guesses by the engineers
which is a patently ridiculous claim
true
>mostly guesses
obviously, he's not talking about fucking Storm Shadow you dumb homosexual cunt
Are you really so fucking fragile you got SO fucking butt blasted by someone not even calling out storm shadow specifically you had to chime in like a retard with STORM SHADOWOW!!?!?!! as the "proof" other countries have proven tomahawk capabilities
my man, you missed the entire point as it flew over your head
Storm shadow is an air launched stealthy cruise missile. It’s a completely different beast. It’s more survivable but the has only a 1/4 of the range of a tomahawk
>STORM SHADOW
That's an entirely different class of weapon.
>STORM SHADOW
>1/3 the warhead yield
>1/3 the range
>costs half a mil more than a block V
I'm not seeing it, chief.
explain why USAF doesn't use TLAM then
Because they have their own missiles, namely JASSM/JASSM-ER/XR
Tomahawk doesn't fit nicely inside internal bays and can be launched from any submarine or surface combatant in service today, so does the airforce REALLY need them?
JASSM doesn't fit inside internal bays of a F-35 either
It’s pretty large. Plus JASSM-ER is more viable than storm shadow due to its longer range despite having similar dimensions. Tomahawk is used extensively by the navy and now even the marines have it
Pretty sure they do. The B-52 is famous for flying halfway around the world just to launch a massive salvo of the things in 91.
They use JASSM in the rotary launcher now
>flying halfway around the world
why's USAF so retarded when you can have an USN strike group nearby?
they do that too
more missiles>>>>>> less missiles
>more missiles>>>>>> less missiles
and then the report says 10 TLAMs were launched.
you know how many TLAMs a CSG actually has?
50-80?
CSG-2 currently contains one guided-missile cruiser and four guided-missile destroyers. Each have like 32 TLAMs. So 160 TLAMs total.
Then you have the auxiliary cargo-ships which have some extra.
>Then you have the auxiliary cargo-ships which have some extra.
What? Why?
They can't replenish a VLS cell at sea
reload VLS cells at sea is possible, just not a common practice when you can do it safely pierside.
https://www.cpf.navy.mil/Newsroom/News/Article/3182635/navy-demonstrates-vls-reload-in-san-diego-harbor/
Yes, testing it in a safe harbor for the first time in like 20 years is TOTALLY the same thing as actually doing it at sea when you need to replenish those cells.
Come on, sure the navy is looking into it, but it's not something they're set up to do today and if you asked the USN if they could replenish a random DDG deployed in the pacific within 1 week without going into a port, they'd probably say they can't do it.
You are forgetting about the subs.
Hard to say what subs are accompanying, one assumes at least 1 Virginia, but it could be more.
Because being able to fly half the world in half a day just to dunk on the ruskies was what SAC spend decades learning how to do, and since the ruskies weren't jumping the durkas made a fine substitute.
Ground-launched Tomahawks were killed by the INF treaty.
And yes, they were operated by the USAF.
They should bring it back.
But instead of just Tomahawks, it can launch anything you can cram into a VLS
Tomahawks
SM-3
Enhanced Sea Sparrow
VL-ASROC
Fuck, even Nulka for shits and gigs
That's exactly what the Marines & the Army are doing right now.
It lacks the aesthetic of the original launcher, though. It's just a VLS box in a transport container on the back of a truck
what's its role?
who's setting its target?
It will be attached to an army (not *the* army) level command. It exists within the Multi-Domain Task Force, which is a brigade operating at the theater level attached to the Army service component of the regional CCMDs. The Army has/will have five of them. Two for INDOPACOM, one for EUCOM, one for the arctic (NORTHCOM/EUCOM), and one for global response to be surged where needed.
Your pic is of the outdated BCT structure. These things are going to be operating at the echelon above corps, so BCTs won't even come close to dealing with them.
>operating at the theater level
tlam's range is beyond the theater level, no?
Yes? But the unit itself is still assigned to an operating theater.
MDTF will also have an LRHW battery which has like a 3000km range.
The block V range is at least 1000 miles, which isn't exactly globe trotting. Also, just because it can fly that far doesn't mean that it will only be used at its maximum range.
It's more than that, it requires a command truck and likely will be linking up with other assets for target track.
You can't just send a single box truck out into the middle of nowhere and fire off missiles.
Why is the modern iteration of this so much bigger than
??
because it does more than just TLAM
but old version looks like 4 tlams.
new version is only single VLS cell?
Based on the pictures available it looks like either 1x2 or 2x2 configuration, with 2 exhausts.
They're back
same poster
Accuracy is a meme to those without it
Bradley shredding infantry with 25mm
https://twitter.com/kvistp/status/1723120139330068866?s=46&t=vNUOI7d7yJFqHoqKrRS_XQ
does anyone have the webm of gif of the formation of tomahawks flying over iraq (?) some a navy plane's FLIR? i only recently saw it for the first time and it was some of the most neato shit i've ever seen on /k/, but i forgot to save it.
Fucking hot damn
it was well ahead of its time and like the LGB and stealth aircraft it changed warfare. it did the job in 1991 and still works as advertised to this day after receiving constant updates. there are also shitloads of them. a single SSGN sub carries 154.
The war stocks actually got built out? To late for USSR to fund build out of equivalent before Cold War ended. Its old as fuck now tbqh
>old as fuck now
Block V is squeezing out the last bits of use from that 80s missile body (not sure how much commonality the guts have any more, probably very little) but the Tomahawk successor so to speak is JASSM
>Block V is squeezing out the last bits of juice from that pimple body (not sure how much pimple guts came out, probably very little) but the blackhead successor so to speak is sebum
>stand out from what other countries have
There are a lot of them and the US can afford to spam them. That's why they are special.
it's no better than anything else out. it's a very old design now
Block V is brand new
>brand new Ford Escort
More like the difference between a 1979 3rd gen mustang and a 1993 3rd gen mustang.
They're both 3rd gen mustangs, but they're not all THAT similar.
>creamed
LOL, man that’s hilarious this board is cray
It doesn’t miss. Ever
Is that a JASSM? Is this a miss in testing?
Storm shadow
Looks like a target setup for testing. Why would a storm shadow be fired at something the size of a go-kart
In the video it's an operational S-300/400 battery, but storm shadow appears to miss by at least 50-100 meters, it could be targeting some unseen structure underground, or maybe it's kill radius is MASSIVE, and managed to hit the command truck in the background even when hitting that far away.
latest ruscope claiming storm shadow missed a target but that 0.6m target is probably something like a S300 battery command post partially dug in or some shit.
>probably
This is just what you need to believe. Show some proof that Putin dug out that command post or continue to be laughed at
The fact they don't show the crater/aftermath of the purpoted miss compels me to believe otherwise. Basic rusnagger tactics, have seen enough zigger drone videos to recognize a severe lack of facts to support made claims.
>or continue to be laughed at
For what? A single miss amidst a slew of confirmed precision hits?
Meanwhile runagger missiles continue to be inaccurate pieces of shit.
Ahhhh concession
Still better than russian washing machine missiles))
Found some propoganda where they blurred out the miss
None of his videos are pixilated like that. The only pixilated one I can see is of the Twitter post pointing out the failed interception.
>4 months ago
so what's the point of posting this? russians posted it again afgter unblurring it it seems
It was blurred by someone taking shit about Russian AA. See
they blurred the miss
This lie has already been exposed in the other thread. Have fun trying to spin Mихaил Coлoмин as a Ukrainian spelling and not Russian one.
Point to the post it was exposed
Here
This didn’t prove or disprove anything. Just a filler post
no i don't think it was. the video is old as you can see in your reddit screenshot.i remember seeing it a few months back. and i think that version of the video was blurred. a newer version without the blur dropped. that's why this old video is making rounds again
it was likely blurred by russians to conceal its location . it wouldn't be the first time they did this. they do this a lot, escpecially for strikes in crimea. see pic rel
>one blurred photo is proof that this was blurred by Russians
>Ukraine doesn’t possess blur technology
no it's no one blurred photos. there are loads, even on videos. i was just showing an example. but with that being put aside. the video is from russian sources. and the oldest videos i can find from reverse image searching are blurred. so unless you can show me an unblurred version o of video from 4 months ago, it was blurred by the russians since they're the primary source.
the russians only release a new unblurred video as a cope mechanism to deal with their latest cruise missile launcher getting whacked by storm shaodow.
Even if that were true the miss is still a miss.
i mean yeah i never said it wasn't a miss. was just responding to your lie claiming it was blurred to hide a miss.
plus the video is old. i don't get what the point of saying it once missed 4 months ago is, when it took out a russian submarine, ships and bridges in the following months. storm shadow is still a pretty good missile. far better than anything russians have in their inventory. it could miss 5 times and still be better than anything russians have
Because it delivers exactly what's in the specs, if not something somewhat better.
It just works.
it wouldn't survive EW in a peer-conflict
There are no peer conflicts.
The closest thing to a peer is our staunch ally.
>he doesn't know about block 3, 4 and 5
Firmware updates nagger.
hardware updates too
> Tomahawk Block III introduced in 1993 added time-of-arrival control and improved accuracy for Digital Scene Matching Area Correlator (DSMAC) and jam-resistant GPS, smaller, lighter WDU-36 warhead, engine improvements and extended missile's rangeTomahawk Block III introduced in 1993 added time-of-arrival control and improved accuracy for Digital Scene Matching Area Correlator (DSMAC) and jam-resistant GPS, smaller, lighter WDU-36 warhead, engine improvements and extended missile's range
> Tomahawk Block IV introduced in 2006 adds the strike controller which can change the missile in flight to one of 15 preprogrammed alternate targets or redirect it to a new target. This targeting flexibility includes the capability to loiter over the battlefield awaiting a more critical target. The missile can also transmit battle damage indication imagery and missile health and status messages via the two-way satellite data link. Firing platforms now have the capability to plan and execute GPS-only missions. Block IV also has an improved anti-jam GPS receiver for enhanced mission performance. Block IV includes Tomahawk Weapons Control System (TTWCS), and Tomahawk Command and Control System (TC2S).
> Tomahawk Block V was introduced in 2021 with improvements to navigation and in-flight targeting. Block Va, the Maritime Strike Tomahawk (MST) allows the missile to engage a moving target at sea, and Block Vb is outfitted with the JMEWS warhead for hard-target penetration.
It is actually more fucking resistant to EW than any other missile you retard.
You going to EW tercom you fucking tardlet? I can only assume you are some vatnagger because only a russian can be so fucking retarded.
Fuck you.
a lot of tomahawk launches are GPS-only these days.
They're pretty jam-resistant since Block IV
>a lot of tomahawk launches are GPS-only these days.
They all have and are loaded with TERCOM as a backup.
true, just saying it's basically never needed or used.
They do it in testing and if the tomahawks ever actually get jammed.
They don’t miss
what's the purpose here?
looks like a single SAM can take out all of them at once.
>When
I put this question to the Tomahawk program manager at the Pentagon, he said that video had been analyzed and that there was no way seven
Tomahawk's could fly "formation" in that small a space. Based on where it was taken and how it was taken (C-130 optical tracking system) took it, it was determined to be large birds, most likely geese, and the relative speed of the Hercules make it look like they were traveling fast.
fucked up the post there it's from this article
https://www.wired.com/2008/06/mystery-cruise/
It's a god damn youtube comment
>source is a fucking youtube comment
Thirdie cope never ceases to amaze me
sure the source is not credible but do you have anything better? how and why would cruise missiles fly in a tight formation like that? to make them easier to shootdown?
>I am too braindead to understand why something happened, therefore it must be fake
>the date, mission number, and location listed in the video doesn't count
>trusts random youtube comments over video evidence
Anon you actually fucking retarded. Please stop posting.
so you don't have anything. got it. shouldn't have wasted my time
>swamp gas
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>t. spent a few seasons sailing solo around international waters in a sixty foot ketch clandestinely armed with torpedoes & tomahawks
Thanks for enjoying my purely fictional vignette.