What's a good weapon for reliably instantly disabling a target without killing them?

What's a good weapon for reliably instantly disabling a target without killing them?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My dick

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      a dick so small it causes involuntary and uncontrollable laughter might be one of the options that OP is looking for.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    a gun chambered in .30sc

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A gun. Just shoot them in the pelvis.

    Hatchet or kukri. Hack their lower spine.

    .22 with ratshot. Shoot them in the eyes.

    But really, you should learn to kill without remorse, hesitation, or passion. Just kill efficiently and without reflection or pause.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >rat shot to the eyes
      Based. I like to keep my wrangler in my desk drawer as a good frick you gun. It’s got 2 rounds of .22 ratshot first then 4 regular .22lr. Two burst of ratshot to the face and body should be more than enough to send someone running without killing them or getting blood all over my carpets.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        There isn't one.

        If your wrangler is rifled chances are you're putting zero pellets in their eyes unless they're about two feet away from you.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I’ve tested it at the range before. It has decent distance vs spread. It can happily stay in face range at like 15-20 ft. And I intend to use it only at close range, hence the desk location.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I’ve tested it at the range before
            Good. My S&W 617 has a big-ass donut hole in the middle of the pattern at those distances.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            how many of those little pellets would be stopped by a simple t-shirt?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You wear a shirt over your face? And no, a shirt would not stop these at close range. Also, this is not my primary home defense. It’s a “I’m at my desk and there’s no time to get up and get another gun” gun.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                don't be so defensive anon, it's just that fabric is surprisingly effective at stopping low mass objects like those

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                your dick is a low mass object

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >22 with ratshot.

      >rat shot to the eyes
      Based. I like to keep my wrangler in my desk drawer as a good frick you gun. It’s got 2 rounds of .22 ratshot first then 4 regular .22lr. Two burst of ratshot to the face and body should be more than enough to send someone running without killing them or getting blood all over my carpets.

      >It’s got 2 rounds of .22 ratshot

      Makes your strategy completely ineffective

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ackshually, wearing glasses would make it even worse. Because now instead of just lead pellets destroying your sight orbs, you now have glass slivers being sprayed into them from spalling, which would be equally as devastating but likely even more painful.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >HA you may have shredded all the flesh off my face and sank 30 tiny BBs into my face and opening numerous bleeding wounds, but I wore GLASSES so I’m still perfectly capable of over powering you before you can pull the trigger again for another 30 BBs!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >without killing them
      >put a hole in their body potentially hitting a major artery
      >put metal pellets in their brain
      >hack their fricking spine open
      You're like 12 aren't you?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >A gun. Just shoot them in the pelvis.
      >Without killing them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      all 3 of those would be charged as attempted murder anyway

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >But really, you should learn to kill without remorse, hesitation, or passion. Just kill efficiently and without reflection or pause.
      Five people responded to this post without calling you out on this cringe. Do you still wear Affliction shirts and Tapout shorts to go along with your giga-LARP?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A taser. It's basically the only instantaneous non-lethal stunning. And even then there's a non-zero chance of stopping their heart.
      Any kind of percussive instrument is potentially lethal if used to stun (knocking somebody out is traumatic brain injury). Sedatives take too long and need to be carefully dosed. Pepper spray or CS don't exactly stun, although they frick up most attacks.

      >shoot them in the pelvis
      Dissection of iliac artery, they die.
      Miss an artery and they don't stop.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You realize that you may be criminally charged for using lethal force in some situations, right?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If you're "instantly disabling" someone you've just used lethal force, because the only way that's actually happening is blunt force trauma to the head. There's a reason cops aren't allowed to baton you in the head any more.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Flashbang

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >tactical stud mace
    thanks for showing me this, I need it now

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I like to make a nonlethal takedown. Give me the GEP gun.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    CS gas in the appropriate dispenser. Tear gas packed into bullets and shotgun shells used to be a thing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Tear gas packed into bullets and shotgun shells used to be a thing.
      Yes. But the bigger question is why you think those were "instantly" or "reliably" disabling. Gas in sufficient quantity (read: much bigger than shotshells) can be disabling, but not instantly so.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Spray yourself with a squirt of mace and find out how potent it is. Police don't use it as much any more because it can be fatal for someone with respiratory issues.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    One of these.
    Outside of fiction? There really isn't any good options, only a series of bad ones.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    beanbag + shotshell = big ouchie

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    y'all need better hobbies than violent fantasies of mangling people

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bear spray will neutralize any target in your vicinity and make them severely regret their life decisions without killing them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How well does this work on drugged out targets? These days you have to consider someone being the wildest crackhead as your target and crackheads do the impossible.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        OC and OC/CS are both effective against drugged out targets because it doesn't work solely by pain. it triggers a response in the body that drugs don't override: you can't fricking breathe and you're blind. no amount of meth, krokodil, etc is going to change the fact that when pepper solution is applied to your eyes it blinds you with excessive tears, even if you're a drug zombie.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A baton that's covered with gympie-gympie leaves

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >26 replies
    >no mention of sap

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It needs to be quiet too.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Rank leaders: Reminder; 100 sterilized credits qualifies non-mechanical reproduction simulation

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    class 4 laser

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    pepper spray is probably your best bet, but nothing is infallible

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >reliably instantly disabling a target without killing them?
    none
    >reliably disabling a target without killing them?
    quite a few

    instant implies death as a matter of practicality. instantaneous knockouts are a function of CNS impairment, read that as death or as close as you can get to it.

    if you want something that says "frick off", pepper spray is a very viable option. if you want "frick off, i mean it", try a pepper ball launcher: same great ingredients, only now it's in a hard plastic ball shot at your chest that knocks the wind out of you. for up close, your OP pic is viable if mall-ninja, but a compact stun gun is a good choice. people often bring up knives, but that takes a lot of training to be even adequate with, let alone competent. stun guns are a whole lot of "ouch" with z press of a button, but unless your mugger has an arrhythmia, it's almost certainly not going to kill him. again, it's a "frick off" implement, not an "instant down" implement.

    the only other option is to carry a pepper ball SMG, which some LE agencies do, and it's extremely fricking effective because it's hard rubber balls and pepper balls cracking against your upper body and skull in rapid succession.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not sure if I can get a serious answer in this thread, but …

    I have two handguns in a safe, but for “reasons” I’d like something less lethal bedside. I’ve been thinking a co2 pellet gun and/or some insanely bright flashlight. There is a self defense pellet gun, but it’s kind of pricey and the only difference I see is that the co2 is ready to go. I like the idea of being able to load a frick off pellet or two, then some pepper balls, and finally some metal ones.

    Is it possible to keep a pellet gun ready to go? Are there any lights bright enough to be mounted on a pistol that are insanely blinding? I’m ok with something that is just blinding for a few milliseconds when triggered.

    I feel that blinding light plus .50 caliber hard pellets are going to be all I need for any non-home invasion scenario. Frankly if some comes hard like that, I’m fricked anyway.

    Thoughts or suggestions?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ok, when you say pellet i'm thinking .177/.22 which is definitely not LTL

      if you want a .50cal co2, that's a good pick. here's a tip: any .50cal paintball marker can fire pepper balls and hard rubber, and many of the "self defense" pepper ball launchers are just palette swaps of paintball markers.

      anyway, stay away from metal balls. they're not good for the marker and are easily lethal. kentucky ballistics did a video using steel core hard plastic balls and it easily sailed through the mock-bone skull on his ballistics gel dummy.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah that’s for the bottom of the clip, do they even have clips? My assumption is that I’ve tried to stop someone using the equivalent of rock salt, pepper balls, and hard plastic.. and I’m still shooting, I need something lethal. I get your point though, plastic covered steel sounds like more than enough if. Get to that point.

        > the "self defense" pepper ball launchers are just palette swap

        Yes this is exactly what I’m looking to do. However I’m not sure what to look for. I could use some advice. Basically I want this https://byrna.com/.

        I have some concerns about using these indoors as well. How do I minimize ricochet?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Yeah that’s for the bottom of the clip, do they even have clips?
          the revolvers use clips, most markers use bigass magazines.
          >However I’m not sure what to look for. I could use some advice. Basically I want this https://byrna.com/.
          byrna makes a very special device in that it is meant specifically to be compact and lightweight. any tippman etc paintball marker will do, just go on Amazon and find something you like. then pair it with 5% OC pepper balls.
          >I have some concerns about using these indoors as well. How do I minimize ricochet?
          you don't, ricochet is the least of your concerns when using pepper balls. you are effectively gassing yourself. if your self defence plan involves pepper spray indoors, you need a full face respirator or straight up gas mask. use rubber balls instead, and just hope it doesn't bounce back at you. it won't, it would probably sail through one layer of sheetrock or at least dent it enough it doesn't fly back.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks. I’m trying to run through scenarios. My plan really is to retreat, make noise to alert family and neighbors, and hole up or flee out of other side of house.

            If I’m not in control of the situation with a few shots, then I’d like to have some pepper balls. I’m aware everything is gonna go to shit at that point, but let’s say multiple intruders, I’d like t be able to fire those down the hallway and just retreat. Maybe that isn’t realistic.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >cover your escape by gassing your hallway with pepper and possibly winding one of the attackers, giving them a massive dose of OC that is literally impossible to shake off in a reasonable timeframe
              this is completely realistic. if you can keep yourself safe from the OC you could theoretically immobilize them in a hallway just by pepper spraying them enough. some balls and sprays even have CS in them, which you could alternate with OC.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A hatchet to the knee.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    inject them with an extra chromosome while inside their mothers womb..
    disabled long b4 their first breath.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Portable energy weapons.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maximize your probiotic and protein intake rip huge nasty farts

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    First, bench at least 200lbs.
    Then, hit them in the leg with a metal pipe.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Now I want to see a stun gun Fleshlight.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Acid to the face

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Drive stuns don't disable a person.
    It just feels like a bee sting

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Devilish

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Contact stun weapons are notoriously shit. Just use spray.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Pick up that can.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you're not a fighter then go pepper spray. Just pop it and run.

    If you've got some skill with fighting go with a stun gun or just a stick. A good wooden or PVC walking stick with a nice stain or paint job will do and most people never give you a second thought. Especially if you dress nice.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    a gun
    most people dont die instantaneously from most gsw's

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Easy Off oven cleaner. It's caustic and toxic af. Glue a small stir straw in the end of the nozel to concentrate the spray into a liquid stream. If you spray it into an attacker's eyes they'll be instantly blinded. The chances of them fully recovering their vision is very slim. You've likely caused permanent damage. Get it in their nostrils and lungs and they'll begin choking and coughing uncontrollably. The burns caused by this shit in the lungs will probably cause them to have breathing difficulties the rest of their lives. If you get it in their mouth and they swallow it they'll 100% begin vomiting within seconds. This stuff won't kill a man but a concentrated spray of this stuff to the face will stop a man in his tracks and cause lasting damage that he'll never forget.

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