What would happen if USA lend leased 30 F-35s for ukraine.

What would happen if USA lend leased 30 F-35s for ukraine.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >What would happen if USA lend leased 30 F-35s for ukraine.
    /k/ would move as fast as /b/ with all of the cope threads. seething would be beyond levels ever seen

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >vatniks simultaneously claiming the f-35 is worthless and powerful enough to justify nuking ukraine over

      A sticky if mods are feeling funny. The US national anthem autoplaying with an F-35 showing off her navel in the background.

      >1 week lift on NSFW ban but only for R34 of F-35chan

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    A sticky if mods are feeling funny. The US national anthem autoplaying with an F-35 showing off her navel in the background.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They'd crash because Ukie pilots don't know how to fly them and Ukie maintenance crews don't know how to maintain them.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That's right, this anon has a point. Btw does anyone here know why these university educated Ukrainian pilots can barely speak Ukrainian on the radio? They seem better at English?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Because you're obligated by international law to learn English to fly a plane or steer a ship beyond your country's borders.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Oh ok, is sounding like you grew up in Ohio an international law thing too?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            yes, the accent or intonation is called airspeak and is required by all pilots

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yes.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            yes, the accent or intonation is called airspeak and is required by all pilots

            >Ohioans after infiltrating the ICAO

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            yes, the accent or intonation is called airspeak and is required by all pilots

            https://i.imgur.com/SDq3Obp.jpg

            Oh not at all, I just find it curious that Mr Johnovich is married to this girl.

            [...]
            Are you autistic anon

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_English
            to be specific, the international chicago convention which governs all air travel in UN nations which is basically all controlled airspace requires you to speak a singular 'accent' of english to minimize the chance of fricking up
            shit like saying nine-er instead of nine or ay-firm instead of affirm is required

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I understand you're trying to contribute but you sound autistic anon. We know, we're shitposting about US pilots pulling a USSR and flying in Ukraine while pretending to be Ukrainian.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >US pilots pulling a USSR and flying in Ukraine while pretending to be Ukrainian
                so if you speak english to air traffic control you are a secret american pilot now? interesting

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, are you familiar with the Korean or Vietnam wars?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                yes

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                $1.000 says youre a fricking autist.
                get the frick out

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Why did you go into fractions of a cent?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                one dollar? that's not a risky bet anon

                am i being the moron here or am i getting baited?
                i thought thats how you burgers would write it if it was one thousand.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                no:
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator#/media/File:DecimalSeparator.svg

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                both. we know what you meant but no one writes it like that

                no:
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator#/media/File:DecimalSeparator.svg

                you're a gay no one does that in countries that matter

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                one dollar? that's not a risky bet anon

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              It's not your fault that vatnigs are moronic anon, just know you won and move on from their brainrot

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >It's real
              BVCKEYE CHADS, I KNEEL!

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Are you implying there might be something fishy about Capt. Johnovich Smithinov?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Oh not at all, I just find it curious that Mr Johnovich is married to this girl.

          yes, the accent or intonation is called airspeak and is required by all pilots

          Are you autistic anon

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Probably Duolingo. I wouldn’t worry about it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They're HATO pilots

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        mmmh weird same happened in korea and nam

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Blow it out your ass, Slava Ukraini
      t. Yuri Smith from Khonostop state

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They would be sold to China and Russia pretty much instantly

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Just like the HIMARS right?

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    maybe at long last we would see tactical nuke dropping by?

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Ukrainians would spend the next 50 years shitposting military forums and boards about "why Russians lose wars?" and "why Ukrainians are so small yet so powerful?" threads like the Pissraelis do

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    if you included the pilots, maintenance/infrastructure and munitions it would be devastating in terms of complete air dominance over non-s400 net areas and fantastic in terms of removing high value targets
    it would further shift the war in terms of how russia is able to engage or move their armies and drive them into an even more stationary front than currently exists
    politically it would be seen the same as direct nato intervention and all of the dumb bullshit that comes with that, which I care far less about

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >over non-s400 net areas
      Israeli F-35s fly over Syrian s400s all the time

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Lol S-400s would all be taken out on day 1 if Ukraine had F-35s.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Tell me why we shouldn't.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      go the frick back to your reddit

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Go the frick back to your own country.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      somehow cringe and kinda based

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        cringe because it's ugly
        based because the idea is good

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Ukies don't want attack aircraft, but multirole combat aircraft

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    electrical infrastructure in and around moscow and st petersburg would get vaporized.
    russia could eventually rebuild the power plants, it would be difficult because of the sanctions, but with enough time and effort they could find spare parts and new turbines somewhere. but it would take time. most of cosmopolitan russia would be stuck in the 17th century for months. during this time there would be civil unrest and there's a good chance the federation would disintegrate into warring factions. and then the nukes would start flying.
    which is why they're never getting modern jet fighters.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine would win.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I don't see how they would help. The war has moved past the airspace. We should give them thousands upon thousands of arty instead.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      air force out-ranges any arty and can suppress arty.
      ruaf won't be able to get any more supplies to their front lines.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    We would witness vatnik cope and seethe of epic proportions.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Realistically probably what the Russians are doing with their jets that are better than the UA ones, lobbing missiles from stand off positions outside their range and dipping.

    Difference with the F35 is they wouldn't be picked up as easily and get out a lot quicker.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      nope, F-35 is ideal for SEAD.
      Ukies will gain air superiority and won't be limited to standoff weapons.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    China would get a lot of new technology.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      China didn't even manage to copy Russian jet engines after all those years despite having access

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    /k/ becomes unusable for days after the Russians take out a couple of them due to Ukrainian incompetence.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What effect would happen if Japan lend-leased 600 Zeros to Ukraine?

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There is a logical red line where Russia will straight up nuke Ukraine, the countries supporting Ukraine militarily are like 60% of the world's GDP so they must feel like they are battling against the world right now , Israel would had used nukes already their place if it was fighting Syria and suddenly the entire world gave them weapons

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Lol. The war is over girls. You see the damage control after the Seymour Hersh story?
    They're panicking and trying to shift the blame to Ukraine for Nordstream
    The Germans are going to use the terrorist attack against their infrastructure as the excuse to pull out of the Ukraine project.
    Scholtz went to the US to tell Biden: Either YOU blame Ukraine so we can pull our support for Ukraine—or WE blame YOU and pull out of NATO.
    Scholtz’s trip was last week—and now coordinated stories come out.
    It is too much of a coincidence that the NYT, the Washington Post, FT and Zeit would all simultaneously publish essentially the same long article giving such a laughably fantastical story.
    They give the Germans the political cover to get out of Ukraine without breaking their relationship with the US.
    Also, It makes Zelensky’s regime look like a bunch of nutcases — perfect excuse for the US to pull out of Ukraine.
    I think after their defeat at Bakhmut, They realise they wont beat Russia on the ground. The Donbass is theirs.
    The project to destabilise Russia via a proxy war in is a bust. The Biden administration needs a good excuse to get out, and quick.
    What better excuse than to “suddenly" realise the Kiev regime is full of crazy Nazis
    Nutters who blew up the German pipeline!
    "Oh my! We had NO IDEA!”
    ...Also If they finger Ukraine as attacking Nordtream. That's a direct attack on a 'NATO country'.
    "An attack on one, is an attack on all" – How do they square that circle
    And if they can't keep the target over Zelensky's head, then Biden and his idiots might just have created an excuse to disband NATO altogether.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      nice schizopost
      you moron
      take your meds
      "Oh my, anon has stopped taking his seroquel again!"

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        thank you soldier, 5 shekels have been deposited in your venom.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Did your translator fail?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You mean, if NATO was attacked by Ukraine, then NATO would have no choice but to invade the so-called Ukraine and conquer it. Including what are supposedly parts of Russia.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        NATO doesn't have the appetite to conquer Crimea.
        Crimea is basically an island and will likely be very bloody to invade.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Just siege it, no need to invade.
          Blow up the bridge, control the land connection blockade the port.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      So your big hope is Germany throwing a sulk and the US leaving Ukraine? Holy shit the cope.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    "Hello my friends, my name is Denys, and to-day we will be looking in to what is happening at the Rrrred Squarrrre at Moss-cow. We see it here as it passes my window, and yes, it turns out I am strafing the living shit out of it my friends".

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Many would likely get blown up on the ground and they would have atrocious availability.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Crime is already banned

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That's why the image is funny.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >If I post Ben Shapiro I can LARP as a Fellow Republican
      The F-35 is based and Russia is a tankie cringefest. Die in fire.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Zelensky would have asked why it wasn't 40

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      well, 30 doesn't make sense.
      a NATO squadron has at least 18 fighters.
      a wing would have 2 fighter squadrons.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Well for one, Ukraine wouldn't need 30 F-35s. With so much of Russia's advanced weapons destroyed or used up evena flight of 4 could cripple Russia's CnC and logistics given time.

    For another, getting F-35s set up in another country will take months. Just getting Ukrainian pilots familiar with how they fly is going to take time and Ukraine will need a small army of techs, maintainers, and suppliers to keep those birds in the air. Jets are expensive jo.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      F-35 are not magic, they can be detected and destroyed.
      4 F-35s likely means 2 flying at any one time, which in practice means 4 Amraams on a flight, which is pretty damn risky if you ask me.
      All it would take is 4 jets vectored to your location and you are potentially fricked.

      Not underplaying the strength of the F-35 in air to air, just some common sense.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        F-35s can also launch missiles from beyond detection range and have the sensor package to find and avoid interceptors or SAM networks. Russia lost a lot of planes and missiles and ,with the embargo in place, doesn't have the means of replacing them.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >have the sensor package to find and avoid interceptors or SAM networks
          if F-35 has to turn on their radar, it's dead.
          NATO doctrine uses AWACS for a reason.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It's not the 90s anymore anon, the F-35 MFA can passively locate and target ground radars like F-16 HTS pods could since the mid 2000s, and a pair of them can passively target air radars or electrooptically target from closer ranges via parallax + data fusion.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              like there won't be any EW

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Might as well not be with the tech gap.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This board would be unusable for a full week at least.

    Apart from that it would stop all Russian offensives, cut off their main supply routes and allow the Ukies to clear a path straight to Melitopol by Summer.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >by Summer.
      you can't train pilots that fast

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I was assuming they just get pilots and the planes operate from Poland, since you can't get the airfields up to standard that fast either.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          did RoE change?
          https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44514/su-27-returning-from-romania-will-likely-be-last-fighter-ukraine-will-get-for-some-time
          >As you can see in this photo below, after the Su-27 diverted to Romania, it is fully loaded with air-to-air missiles, but it returned without any armament. This is because NATO countries will not send an armed aircraft into Ukrainian airspace as not to be dragged into the conflict. If the Su-27 had shot down a Russian aircraft while trying to return to its base, it could have resulted in a major international incident and escalation point. As such, the jet returned unarmed and required an escort of Ukrainian fighters once in Ukrainian airspace.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    MiG-31s would be BTFO'd. Russian AWACS would be shot down. SEAD would commence. Ukies would be able to CAS. Ukie air superiority, but not dominance. pic unrel

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      now explain why Russians didn't just use their Su-57 and do that to the Ukies

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >why Russians didn't just use their Su-57 and do that to the Ukies
        Because they don't have any?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous
          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >"stealth technologies"
            >"limited to flying over Russian territory"
            huh

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The SU-57 has a radar cross section the size of a small airliner. It's not stealth at all.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Because their crap planes are not as good as ours? I'm not gonna post the diagram with the record of US planes versus Russian ones, you've already seen it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Probably because their planes are shit, their missiles are shit, and their pilots are shit.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      MiG-31 operate only out of Russian air space.
      A F-35 can't get close enough without overflying some SAM on occupied Ukraine with its AIM-120D.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Stealth will allow them to get close.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

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      So is Aqua

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine having drunk unprotected sex with Aqua

        God

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Well, first I'd feel ill at the thought of some dirty slavs getting their hands on that much of our extremely expensive military hardware.

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Russia would get their hands on a wrecked F-35. It probably doesn't matter though because at least one of the 6 gorillion F-35 buyers is likely compromised by China anyway.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Surely China will have working engines any day now. Do you realize how hard Pentagon officials work to pretend your shitholes are a threat? They still couldn't help laughing at your newest planes. They saw it and fricking chortled. Had a big guffaw, because what China is...is a joke.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Ever heard of asymmetric warfare? good luck getting your planes anywhere near China,when your aircraft carriers are comfortably at peace at the bottom of the ocean

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          US doctrine says you get nuked when you kill one of their carriers.
          Why would they send planes over some giant parking lot?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You honestly think the US wouldn't get glassed just as hard if laid a finger on China? You honestly need some tough love to break you out of your state of delusion. Multi polarity is coming, prepare your butthole

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              why would US lay a finger on China?
              Seventh fleet will sail to Taiwan's defense.
              China gets to decide if they will stop their silly invasion, or open fire on the US fleet.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >US doctrine says you get nuked when you kill one of their carriers.
            What?
            Citation needed.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              why do you think China is NFU, but USA isn't?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I mean Israel has them, you don't need to be a braindead stormgay to see that their behaviour as a supposed ally to the US has been lackluster to say the least in that regard.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      maybe they already have one. it doesn't matter really. the f-35 was designed to be exported all over the world, with the assumption that people would try to take it apart and reverse engineer it at the first opportunity. the USA isn't worried about this, because its just too complex to reproduce in a short timespan

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        and that's why Turkey got the S-400 and the F-35

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          But Turkey didn't get the F-35 and S-400 is shit. They really played theirselves pretending to be 4D chess masters.

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Airbase would be shelled until there were no more shells to send.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      with what, the fricking paris gun?

      why would you put airbases in shell range?

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    nothing, it's a small cog in a sophisticated weapons system that requires hundreds of highly trained specialists to operate effectively. it takes years to integrate a weapons system like this. by the time they can fly their first combat mission, the war will have been over for a long, long time. Crimea will be back under Ukraine's control next year at the latest, Moscow will come under Ukrainian control in 2025 or 2026, the whole Russian leadership will be in prison or dead in 3 to 4 years.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Crimea will be back under Ukraine's control next year at the latest, Moscow will come under Ukrainian control in 2025 or 2026, the whole Russian leadership will be in prison or dead in 3 to 4 years.
      Lolwtf. To the last hohol

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Should lend lease the pilots in them too and stage them in Poland. The Soviet Union did it in Korea, just a little payback.

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What would happen if we crossbreed a SR71 with a B2?

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