Would Ukraine change if they got Apaches? Maybe if they each came with a boatload of North African migrants then they'd have a distinct demographic change, but IMO the brown hordes can wait until after the war. There will be plenty of time to replace the locals when they're securely under the Blackrock yoke.
If Russian SHORAD can't deal with some shitty drones dropping artillery shells on tanks how is it going to kill an AH-64 just above a treeline 6km away sniping T-72s with Hellfires?
its much harder to hit a target thats actively deploying counter-measures and hiding behind terrain and firing back than a plastic drone that moves in a straight line at low-altitude
its much harder to hit a target thats actively deploying counter-measures and hiding behind terrain and firing back than a plastic drone that moves in a straight line at low-altitude
>What would change if Ukraine got a couple hundred of these
Not much because honestly they are running out of people and time to train to pilot these things.
I'm 100% expecting that when Ukraine starts to receive F-16's there's a sudden spike in foreign nationals getting Ukrainian citizenship...
>What would change if Ukraine got a couple hundred of these?
Much, much more night-operations and night-hunting for AA, artillery, and vehicle concentrations.
A lot more trenches getting smacked around with 30mm cannon fire from afar, also at night.
>We should spend billions of dollars giving Ukraine a highly sophisticated attack helicopter force, for which they have neither maintainers nor pilots. >This when short range air defence against this type of threat is an area that Russia is particularly strong in >Aslo with threat from Russian jet aviation that can look down shoot down over the battlefield
the same amount of money spent on GMLRS-ER or GLSDB procurement over the same kind of timeframe (ie a couple years) would provide about 100x the effect on the course of the war.
honestly if i was Ukraine i would modify their existing Mi-24 attack helicopters to fire missiles like the stinger or LMM and use them almost exclusively to intercept drones.
Poland would have to wait longer for their order of 96
they would have a couple hundred more apaches than they started with
Would Ukraine change if they got Apaches? Maybe if they each came with a boatload of North African migrants then they'd have a distinct demographic change, but IMO the brown hordes can wait until after the war. There will be plenty of time to replace the locals when they're securely under the Blackrock yoke.
you do realize you can buy a flat to rent it out in Lwiv, Luczk or Zhytomyr even on neet bux, right?
ukraine would be able to stop concentrated armored masses by interdicting them with apaches hiding behind a treeline
they could also provide organic air support to army units without needing to call another branch
then there would be a couple hundred of those shot down.
Just like Ukraine's air force? Oh wait.
attack helicopters /= fighter jets
Then why hasn't Ukraine lost its rotary wing fleet?
Since helicopters are flying coffins nothing would happen except Ukraine losing a bunch of pilots.
If Russian SHORAD can't deal with some shitty drones dropping artillery shells on tanks how is it going to kill an AH-64 just above a treeline 6km away sniping T-72s with Hellfires?
AA that was made to lock helicopters instead of a plastic bird sized drone will work better against helicopters?
NO WAY
its much harder to hit a target thats actively deploying counter-measures and hiding behind terrain and firing back than a plastic drone that moves in a straight line at low-altitude
It's actually impossible to lock a small chinesium drone with garbage Soviet AA.
Plus Ukie pilots would be bad as well
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_cross_section
What a fucking retard. Why do you gays need to turn everything into a console war?
Nothing would change, stupid demoralization shill. R*ssia would still losing gay..
>What would change if Ukraine got a couple hundred of these
Not much because honestly they are running out of people and time to train to pilot these things.
I'm 100% expecting that when Ukraine starts to receive F-16's there's a sudden spike in foreign nationals getting Ukrainian citizenship...
These things might actually be more useful than F-16s for close air support.
>What would change if Ukraine got a couple hundred of these?
Cha-ching! Okay, that'll be only $4,000,000,000 please.
Give up, please.
>What would change if Ukraine got a couple hundred of these?
Much, much more night-operations and night-hunting for AA, artillery, and vehicle concentrations.
A lot more trenches getting smacked around with 30mm cannon fire from afar, also at night.
>We should spend billions of dollars giving Ukraine a highly sophisticated attack helicopter force, for which they have neither maintainers nor pilots.
>This when short range air defence against this type of threat is an area that Russia is particularly strong in
>Aslo with threat from Russian jet aviation that can look down shoot down over the battlefield
the same amount of money spent on GMLRS-ER or GLSDB procurement over the same kind of timeframe (ie a couple years) would provide about 100x the effect on the course of the war.
honestly if i was Ukraine i would modify their existing Mi-24 attack helicopters to fire missiles like the stinger or LMM and use them almost exclusively to intercept drones.