What would be the best method of supplying wired internet to multiple buildings over say 10 acres of land spread out?

What would be the best method of supplying wired internet to multiple buildings over say 10 acres of land spread out?
Not necessarily the cheapest nor the highest bandwidth, just running wire to different spots that are going to go through one isp bill?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    starlink

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How many buildings?

    Probably ruggedized aerial fiber drops. And just run them all from the central switch. You probably want bidirectional sfp+ so you only need one fiber per house

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      OP here.

      >How many buildings?
      None. There's a water meter and that's it right now. Unimproved land. Near a paved road and with neighbors so not too rural it would be a hassle.
      My family is buying the land and we're brainstorming. I think we're going to put up a small barndonium at first, electric and septic. I'm just thinking long term because we will build multiple structures spread out over time. Both to live on and possibly run some airbnb to help pay for everything.

      Would wireless extenders at points be a decent speed? The lot is pretty flat so LOS wouldn't be an issue. But it seems like running cable along with whatever future electrical extensions might be a better long term decision.

      Thanks for the info fellas. I'm getting too old and want to get the hell outta Dodge and innawoods in the next few years.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm just thinking long term because we will build multiple structures spread out over time.
        That description sounds like you'll eventually buy a digger anyway. So lay underground fiber, in conduit once you have one.

        For conduit, I like to use large bore (40mm outside diameter which works out to ~33mm inside) underground PE water pipe because it can take one hell of a beating and forces you to make gentle bends (easier to work with than sharp 90 degree bends when pulling fiber). It's a bit of a b***h to lay on account of being very stiff but it's worth it. Use a pipe cutter (pic related) to cut them cleanly. There are cable gland like double fittings you can use to securely connect pipes in the ground.

        >Would wireless extenders at points be a decent speed? The lot is pretty flat so LOS wouldn't be an issue.
        Forget about that. It'll be unreliable as frick. If you need wireless, put it up locally and connect it to the upstream network through fiber (and/or copper once you get to wiring up things inside buildings).

        >But it seems like running cable along with whatever future electrical extensions might be a better long term decision.
        Absolutely. I'd keep electrical and fiber in separate conduits though. Otherwise it'll get very crowded in there and that last minute addition you meant to pull through there will no longer fit 😉

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >That description sounds like you'll eventually buy a digger anyway.
          Probably not buy one but will need one at some point. We're just going to get one home base set up and work on it from there over the next several years as we all can afford it. We have extended family in the area who know everyone else and can get access to equipment, better deals etc. So right now it's just the basics like a side-by-side mower for a ATV and have someone nearby maintain it until one of us (most likely me) can move and work on it full time.
          I'm just the only one who thinks ahead for shit like this. Stuff to make it easier to expand.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Regular CAT6* has a max run length of 100 meters. Depending how spread out the locations are, you should be fine with that and some repeaters. There's in-line ones that just take power from the ethernet cable itself. Not sure about weather resistance though, you'll probably want to sleeve them in some PVC pipe and bury it.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'd just run wireless with directional antennae.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can get super cheap fibre transceivers which will work infinitely better than copper ethernet, or use airfibre if you have line of sight.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Long range 5GHz wifi is pretty good as long as you have LOS. Ethernet cable is cheapest and probably most reliable and easy to use option so long as the buildings are close enough. They make outdoor-rated ethernet cable.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the cheapest is like t mobile
    just teather to your laptop
    get a cell phone extender if you need they are like 50 bucks
    i just place my phone on my cabin wall and run my laptop on my jackery
    also my parent run their phone on my signal

    otherwise i have a brother in rural mexico
    and he got that elon musk satelight
    that thing is amazing
    but itslike 200 a month and 700 for the satelight
    but it runs gigabit

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i watch videos on my to mobile plan

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    telephone wires can be used to carry internet

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    P2P wireless….DUH

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Use wireless bridges.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

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  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Directional wireless. It's actually pretty good these days and not hard to get.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fiber. media converters are not that expensive.
    using copper will risk a lightning strike fricking all your shit right up and distance could possibly be a problem
    wireless sucks and for something actually reliable and high distance enough it might cost far more

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >wireless sucks and for something actually reliable and high distance enough it might cost far more

      Best to ask PrepHole and of course on real tech sites, not just PrepHole, because campground wireless is a solved problem.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My buddy uses a 20km ptp wireless link from his house in the woods (on a radio tower) to town for internet and yes it actually is reliable. But you do have to use commercial equipment, not some dogshit wifi meant for retail customers.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Whatever you do, always start at the highest point. Bits are very heavy and it's hard to push them up hill

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just put in a LC singlemode fiber run b/w my house and garage. I used a $120 black and decker edger that can cut trenches and direct buried the fiber into the yard. How long will it hold up? who cares! I think I'm like $250 all in on all the components including SFP+ modules and a new switch on the garage side.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >How long will it hold up?
      Not very long (3-5 years) because fiber is sensitive to moisture and at that sum total you didn't spend enough on the fiber to get direct burial rated outdoor cable that'll protect the fiber from moisture. Moisture will turn it opaque enough to frick up the signal eventually. If you spend about $30-50 more next time to get that sort of fiber, it's probably going to outlast you (barring some sort of digging accident where you sever it).

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yep and that is exactly my plan. 3 years would be great. Might run conduit next time idk.

    Also have a fun 500' run through the woods I did with cat5. I didn't even run it on the ground, I just put a heavy weight on the cable and tossed it to where I needed it. The only precaution I took was installing gas discharge surge protectors on each end. Which will die first, the fiber or the cat5?!?!

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would do point-to-multipoint or point-to-point radio bridges, depending on how many buildings and their layout, how much speed you need, the surrounding radio interference, and what your fresnel clearance looks like, you have several frequency options.

    900MHz is going to be your best bet for punching through trees, but the speeds can be limited.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    get 10 acres of internet wire

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