Like nothing. Literally. They’d all go to ground and stay there, maybe cutting loose individual gangs who didn’t dive for cover fast enough but otherwise use their government, police and business contacts to stay safe. Wait for the storm to pass. The end.
the mexican marines are just as corrupt as any other armed force in mexico, they just come at a premium. whenever high ranking members are killed its not because the governemnt got off its ass to do something, its because they were payed by rivals to do so. i remember visiting family in michoacan , mexico years ago, they had 4 blackhawks and a large garrizon in a small town just sitting there for months, not to defend the area from the cartels but to deter rivals from entering the region and protect the local drug lords, corrupt as fuck.
The US military already has a bit of a gang issue to say the least.
Don't you think the Mexican military is probably crawling with cartel looking to up their skill set?
>Cartels power comes from their looming presence
No it doesn't the power they have is because of the money they make you really think air strikes can stop a 2trillion dollar trade?
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>power they have is because of the money they make
And what does that money go towards to give them power?
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Weapons
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And who uses those weapons? And how are those weapons used?
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You don't know holmes, they get training from US special forces and the CIA.
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The cartel members. They are higher experienced in urban warfare and will have common enemy
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>The cartel members
And what happens to cartel members that are found wielding guns? Hint: see
You think the US only has one bomb?
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Gangs arent army's they are lose crime syndicates
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I already told you. Cartels power comes from their presence. You even confirmed this yourself by admitting that there power comes from weapons. Those weapons are what give them their presence. It's how they control local populaces, it's how the coerce civilians to work for them. If they are forced underground and lose that presence they lose a huge amount of the power the hold.
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Okay lets say thats the case the Issue is not the cartels themself is the drug trafficking taking out one kingpin only cause 4 more to pop up
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Thats why you kill the kingpin AND every single goon.
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Good luck
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Those 4 have a fraction of the reach, manpower, and money of the original and are also in competition with each other. There is also nothing stopping governments from going after those 4 either. Organizational degradation is a highly viable tactic since cartel footsoldiers are in it for money and clout and have no greater cause to rally behind. It's why the most effective way to deal with them would be to target the cashflow.
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There it is
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fuck off, pajeet, and take your slide thread with you.
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Take you're meds gay
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doesn't work, we already know you're a paid troll, diksit.
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ITS DA RUUUS, POL AND INDY!!!!!
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>you really think air strikes can stop a 2trillion dollar trade?
You just need to kill enough of them to dissuade it, cartels are just greedy psychopaths with no higher ideals.
It's not like fighting nationalists or religious extremists because those people have faith and are ready to die for their belief. See Afghanistan or Vietnam.
Reminder that Mussolini almost exterminated the mafia in Sicily and it only came back because the americans reinstated them.
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Mussolini didn't exterminate the mafia, he hired them
A big chunk of his brownshirts were mafia goons who signed on for the opportunity to wipe out the competition without the government coming after them, the only families who got exterminated were the ones who wouldn't play ball with Duce
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>cartels are just greedy psychopaths with no higher ideals. >It's not like fighting nationalists or religious extremists because those people have faith and are ready to die for their belief.
About that...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jes%C3%BAs_Malverde
It's going to be like the Troubles. Most likely its going to be military police battalions spearheading. I don't think leaders are retarded enough to send actual military units to fight them. MPs are sufficient, they'll wear face shields and shin guards and other riot gear in addition to their standard equipment.
All U.S. forces will wear additional protection in Special Military Operation against cartel; see FM 3-19.15 Civil Disturbance Operations >The nonballistic shin guards (see Figure 5-3) are constructed of hard
durable plastic and are easily fastened to a soldier’s legs. They are designed to
protect the soldiers, feet, shins, and knees from thrown objects. They will not
provide protection from ballistic weapons, such as firearms. All soldiers
operating in a civil disturbance environment should be outfitted with shin
guards. >A nonballistic riot face shield (see Figure 5-1, page 5-2) has two
adjustable positions and is constructed of hard durable plastic that securely
attaches to the Kevlar® helmet. It may be worn with an M17 or M40
protective mask and is designed to protect the soldier’s head, face, and neck
from thrown objects. Nonballistic riot face shields will not protect from attacks
with ballistic weapons, such as firearms. All soldiers operating in a civil
disturbance environment should be outfitted with riot face shields.
Helicopters will be used as a show of force and to dispense riot control agents. Bomb attacks against the security forces will be an issue, cartel may be armed by Americans, etc.
Depends. Internet PAG tier operations or in-person operations focused on infiltration or arrests to appease AMLO and his erection for Biden and the DEA?
It's been happening. I hope whoever conducts these operations takes the necessary safety precautions beforehand. Mercenary groups are wild bro.
he's talking about legalisation
Assuming good regulation and no price gouging, black markets can't compete with legal markets because the average consumer is more than happy to pay a few extra dollars to keep the man off his back
See the rise of streaming services vs piracy for an example of this at work (and the fall of streaming services vs piracy for an example of what happens when the legal guys get too cocky and stop being a more convenient alternative)
>Addicts now willing to self report without fear of legal reprisal
A bunch of lefties showed up when being left-handed was no longer ostracized. Clearly we should've kept them in line.
legalization won't just magically solve all the issues drugs cause. like the other anon said, cartels would be just as willing to smuggle in taxed drugs as they would illegal ones, addicts will still have access to them and won't have any reason to stop, and even if they decide that's drugs isn't as profitable as it used to be, they can just as easily move into another illegal business to make money, like human trafficking, since they already have the skills and infrastructure for it. There's also the simple fact that just regulating an industry as inherently seedy and corrupt as this one rarely have any real effect on the lack of ethics displayed by it's partcipants. It's the same thing with prostitution, no matter how you regulate it, it's always going to be an abusive and predatory business, and that regulation might in fact make things worse as it gives a certain amount of legality which will inevitably be abused.
The solution is the Swiss model. >drugs still illegal >BUT if you sign up with a program >you get free daily doses of state-made heroin (yes, heroin not synthetics) >all you do in return is attend daily therapy and join a work program washing street signs or doing some other busy-busy work for a nominal wage
They went from full-blown opioid crisis in the 90's to super chill in less than 8 years.
The problem isn’t the drugs, narcotics are just currently the most profitable thing to smuggle across a porous border from a poor, lawless state into a richer and more restrictive state. That is virtually the only business of northern Mexico. Moving illegal shit into the US. If the ATF made fucking anime DVDs as difficult to obtain as heroin and that became a more profitable thing to move then the cartels would be moving gunpla and e-boi across the border for weebs instead overnight. Smuggling is their sole industry. This is an economic problem.
>remove all cost of smuggling
Cool, you fucking retard. While you're selling drugs+tax the cartels will be selling drugs and now have absolutely nothing stopping them from undercutting you.
Drug trafficking is just one of many business ventures the cartels are in, they also do but not limited to; human trafficking, assassinations, loan sharking, extortion, illegal property seizures & taquerias.
with how ingrained cartels have become even in regular society, probably pretty bad. there would be reasonable justification to kill mountains of abuelas
Why does this question get asked so much? Cartel goons would get their asses turned inside out by any half competent military in during a raid, even their own shitty national forces. Some shitheels from Chihuahua with flashy expensive equipment aren't good for much more than terrorizing retard peasants and scaring other gangs, no matter how much fellow hispanics want to romanticize them as scary badass outlaw boogiemen
>last time terrorists attacked US soil >triggered the shitstorm in the middle east
If the cartels knew what was good for them they'd play up the "poor victim" angle for all it's worth.
The only weapon that would work against the cartels is some sort of irremovable, anti-needle plate armor that prevents Americans from shoving drugs up their snouts.
>Cartels go to ground >US soldiers get twitchy and shoot a few Mexican civilians >Cartels grow larger from angry Mexicans and turn into actual political groups
People here think mexican cartels and the taliban are remotely comparable, most cartel fighters are just retards looking for a power trip and won't stick around when GBUs start falling, they aren't hardened mujahedin that will go an a jihad across mexico and the united states. The hard part will be somehow uprooting the cartels from the goverment, which is difficult because they get a lot of money from bribes.
If even the Mexican Army with armored technicals can roll up and BTFO cartels I think any competent western nation could handle them. They lack any firepower to deal with military toys.
The Mexican government has virtually no control over the north and it is virtually a seceded narcostate. If you had some kind of joint op with the Mexican government to actually establish a justice system and policing there that could stop you might accomplish something temporarily. I think ultimately you’re fighting natural entropy, though. People aren’t blank slates that can achieve anything, they have genetic limitations. Northern Mexico is full of low-IQ Indios who live in a shitty desert just like their ancestors did because their ancestors were too retarded to leave the desert. The US side of the border isn’t much better for the most part. Mexican cities in this region are barnacles on US border cities, and even back in the good old days of (relatively to now) nonviolent coke smuggling and low(er than now) human trafficking they were still in the prostitution business for US sex tourists. Their only potential source of increasing their income is that and sneaking illegal shit in and out of the US. If they made meth legal tomorrow they would find something worse to profit off of and people would violently fight for control of it. It’s whack-a-mole from here to eternity like all law enforcement is unless you go full DPRK and establish a fucking shoot-on-sight DMZ and use ground penetrating radar to bust tunnels 24/7. If something pays well then somebody will do it, no matter how dangerous it is.
>no wheels
totally false, they had toys with functional wheels they just didn't have any fucking draft animals until Europeans arrived. hence no wagons. >no writing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_writing_systems
Also, the Inca had a continent-spanning empire just using string counting and runners. Fuck just google this shit, how are people so fucking stupid when they have so much knowledge at their fingertips???
Destroying cartel c&c would be easy and doable in a few days. The problem is maintaining a proper counterinsurgency force that would keep them from slowly seizing control again.
It would look like a gangfuck of dead people on both sides, mostly the cartels, then a clumsy, embarrassing retreat after 7 years while claiming complete victory, and then a surge in drug and human trafficking due to the now even more unstable border.
Mission: accomplished.
Since stabilizing northern Mexico is never going to happen there is only one way to beat the cartels using the military: make serious efforts to close the southern border. Declare that Mexico has lost control of Northern Mexico and label it a rogue state and hostile foreign power. Illegal aliens serve as mules for cartel-controlled coyotes, so stop allowing illegal crossings. Deport them. Dump them back on the other side of the border and tell them to start walking. Use force and imprisonment to deter coyotes. They aren’t US nationals, if they offend repeatedly you can call it a national security threat and they get fucking GITMOd. Blow up their tunnel systems. Erect barriers. Use unmanned surveillance. Fighting them on the Mexico side is retarded.
You’ll never see a serious effort to secure the border. Every presidential candidate prior to Biden promised to erect a physical barrier and increase presence there. Obama and Bush both built small portions of the wall Trump promised to complete. Everyone in the US, except for the people with political power to stop crossings, want it to end and have consistently voted for it to end. It could end. But it doesn’t. People make a lot of money from the open border.
Depends on who conducts it?
Like nothing. Literally. They’d all go to ground and stay there, maybe cutting loose individual gangs who didn’t dive for cover fast enough but otherwise use their government, police and business contacts to stay safe. Wait for the storm to pass. The end.
By who? And the mexican government is too corrupt to the point that even a regime change would not fix it.
Dont the Mexican Marines absolutely obliterate cartel soldiers whenever they come into contact?
>whenever they come into contact
That's the key point here, they're held back by their superiors.
Yeah, the ones that don't pay their cut to the government.
the mexican marines are just as corrupt as any other armed force in mexico, they just come at a premium. whenever high ranking members are killed its not because the governemnt got off its ass to do something, its because they were payed by rivals to do so. i remember visiting family in michoacan , mexico years ago, they had 4 blackhawks and a large garrizon in a small town just sitting there for months, not to defend the area from the cartels but to deter rivals from entering the region and protect the local drug lords, corrupt as fuck.
Yes but the Mexican military is routinely barred form engaging narcos by the political bosses who are in bed with cartels.
The US military already has a bit of a gang issue to say the least.
Don't you think the Mexican military is probably crawling with cartel looking to up their skill set?
US aircraft bombing all the cartel compounds into nothing.
>bomb one compound
>another 12 pop up
You think the US only has one bomb?
You think somebody cant make crack in a basement
Irrelevant. Cartels power comes from their looming presence. If they die every time they surface to do anything they lose most of their power.
>Cartels power comes from their looming presence
No it doesn't the power they have is because of the money they make you really think air strikes can stop a 2trillion dollar trade?
>power they have is because of the money they make
And what does that money go towards to give them power?
Weapons
And who uses those weapons? And how are those weapons used?
You don't know holmes, they get training from US special forces and the CIA.
The cartel members. They are higher experienced in urban warfare and will have common enemy
>The cartel members
And what happens to cartel members that are found wielding guns? Hint: see
Gangs arent army's they are lose crime syndicates
I already told you. Cartels power comes from their presence. You even confirmed this yourself by admitting that there power comes from weapons. Those weapons are what give them their presence. It's how they control local populaces, it's how the coerce civilians to work for them. If they are forced underground and lose that presence they lose a huge amount of the power the hold.
Okay lets say thats the case the Issue is not the cartels themself is the drug trafficking taking out one kingpin only cause 4 more to pop up
Thats why you kill the kingpin AND every single goon.
Good luck
Those 4 have a fraction of the reach, manpower, and money of the original and are also in competition with each other. There is also nothing stopping governments from going after those 4 either. Organizational degradation is a highly viable tactic since cartel footsoldiers are in it for money and clout and have no greater cause to rally behind. It's why the most effective way to deal with them would be to target the cashflow.
There it is
fuck off, pajeet, and take your slide thread with you.
Take you're meds gay
doesn't work, we already know you're a paid troll, diksit.
ITS DA RUUUS, POL AND INDY!!!!!
>you really think air strikes can stop a 2trillion dollar trade?
You just need to kill enough of them to dissuade it, cartels are just greedy psychopaths with no higher ideals.
It's not like fighting nationalists or religious extremists because those people have faith and are ready to die for their belief. See Afghanistan or Vietnam.
Reminder that Mussolini almost exterminated the mafia in Sicily and it only came back because the americans reinstated them.
Mussolini didn't exterminate the mafia, he hired them
A big chunk of his brownshirts were mafia goons who signed on for the opportunity to wipe out the competition without the government coming after them, the only families who got exterminated were the ones who wouldn't play ball with Duce
>cartels are just greedy psychopaths with no higher ideals.
>It's not like fighting nationalists or religious extremists because those people have faith and are ready to die for their belief.
About that...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jes%C3%BAs_Malverde
>Reddit frog
we have more bombs than they have men
>we have more bombs than they have men
There's more Mexicans in the US then there are bombs.
You think they'll let the US just do whatever it wants?
I mean othe other than complaining to the international community, what could they do?
It's going to be like the Troubles. Most likely its going to be military police battalions spearheading. I don't think leaders are retarded enough to send actual military units to fight them. MPs are sufficient, they'll wear face shields and shin guards and other riot gear in addition to their standard equipment.
“It’s going to be like The Troubles”
What. The. Fuck. Are. You. Blethering. About. You. Useless. Summerfag. Cunt.
All U.S. forces will wear additional protection in Special Military Operation against cartel; see FM 3-19.15 Civil Disturbance Operations
>The nonballistic shin guards (see Figure 5-3) are constructed of hard
durable plastic and are easily fastened to a soldier’s legs. They are designed to
protect the soldiers, feet, shins, and knees from thrown objects. They will not
provide protection from ballistic weapons, such as firearms. All soldiers
operating in a civil disturbance environment should be outfitted with shin
guards.
>A nonballistic riot face shield (see Figure 5-1, page 5-2) has two
adjustable positions and is constructed of hard durable plastic that securely
attaches to the Kevlar® helmet. It may be worn with an M17 or M40
protective mask and is designed to protect the soldier’s head, face, and neck
from thrown objects. Nonballistic riot face shields will not protect from attacks
with ballistic weapons, such as firearms. All soldiers operating in a civil
disturbance environment should be outfitted with riot face shields.
Helicopters will be used as a show of force and to dispense riot control agents. Bomb attacks against the security forces will be an issue, cartel may be armed by Americans, etc.
Depends. Internet PAG tier operations or in-person operations focused on infiltration or arrests to appease AMLO and his erection for Biden and the DEA?
It's been happening. I hope whoever conducts these operations takes the necessary safety precautions beforehand. Mercenary groups are wild bro.
>implement laws that view drugs as a medical problem, tax and regulate
>cartels fail
>use taxes on helping people
<COMMIE FAAAAG
>tax smuggled items
Lol, just lmao.
he's talking about legalisation
Assuming good regulation and no price gouging, black markets can't compete with legal markets because the average consumer is more than happy to pay a few extra dollars to keep the man off his back
See the rise of streaming services vs piracy for an example of this at work (and the fall of streaming services vs piracy for an example of what happens when the legal guys get too cocky and stop being a more convenient alternative)
>End the war on drugs, legalization n-
>Addicts now willing to self report without fear of legal reprisal
A bunch of lefties showed up when being left-handed was no longer ostracized. Clearly we should've kept them in line.
legalization won't just magically solve all the issues drugs cause. like the other anon said, cartels would be just as willing to smuggle in taxed drugs as they would illegal ones, addicts will still have access to them and won't have any reason to stop, and even if they decide that's drugs isn't as profitable as it used to be, they can just as easily move into another illegal business to make money, like human trafficking, since they already have the skills and infrastructure for it. There's also the simple fact that just regulating an industry as inherently seedy and corrupt as this one rarely have any real effect on the lack of ethics displayed by it's partcipants. It's the same thing with prostitution, no matter how you regulate it, it's always going to be an abusive and predatory business, and that regulation might in fact make things worse as it gives a certain amount of legality which will inevitably be abused.
yes, because weed legalization in the states that have done it has been a resounding failure.
stfu.
This.
The solution is the Swiss model.
>drugs still illegal
>BUT if you sign up with a program
>you get free daily doses of state-made heroin (yes, heroin not synthetics)
>all you do in return is attend daily therapy and join a work program washing street signs or doing some other busy-busy work for a nominal wage
They went from full-blown opioid crisis in the 90's to super chill in less than 8 years.
The problem isn’t the drugs, narcotics are just currently the most profitable thing to smuggle across a porous border from a poor, lawless state into a richer and more restrictive state. That is virtually the only business of northern Mexico. Moving illegal shit into the US. If the ATF made fucking anime DVDs as difficult to obtain as heroin and that became a more profitable thing to move then the cartels would be moving gunpla and e-boi across the border for weebs instead overnight. Smuggling is their sole industry. This is an economic problem.
>Drug legalized
>suddenly not profitable to smuggle as competition is fierce
problem solved
No, gay, because legalization means regulation which means overheads. Its still more profitable to traffic. Look at pot in California.
>remove all cost of smuggling
Cool, you fucking retard. While you're selling drugs+tax the cartels will be selling drugs and now have absolutely nothing stopping them from undercutting you.
Drug trafficking is just one of many business ventures the cartels are in, they also do but not limited to; human trafficking, assassinations, loan sharking, extortion, illegal property seizures & taquerias.
>human trafficking, assassinations, loan sharking, extortion, illegal property seizures & taquerias.
one of these things is not like the others.
>just make murder legal lamo
Retard.
with how ingrained cartels have become even in regular society, probably pretty bad. there would be reasonable justification to kill mountains of abuelas
Why does this question get asked so much? Cartel goons would get their asses turned inside out by any half competent military in during a raid, even their own shitty national forces. Some shitheels from Chihuahua with flashy expensive equipment aren't good for much more than terrorizing retard peasants and scaring other gangs, no matter how much fellow hispanics want to romanticize them as scary badass outlaw boogiemen
terrorism explodes across the US because this time we live right next door to the taliban vs on the other side of the world
That hasn't worked out well for Mexico in the past, you know. They tried it in the early 1900s iirc, kind of sucked
Ok
Imagine seeing us cities getting drone bombed
Anything that stokes public backlash against all Mexicans, I'm totally for
>last time terrorists attacked US soil
>triggered the shitstorm in the middle east
If the cartels knew what was good for them they'd play up the "poor victim" angle for all it's worth.
>unga bunga we just bomb all the enemeys into nothing and win 🙂
decades of this shit and people still never fucking learn. NPCs gonna NPC
literal retard
putting american drug users in concentration camps
Unironically one of the better ideas in this thread
Yep. Until we start seeing drug use as active aid and comfort to a enemy of the United States you will get absolutely nothing done.
Kinda like Afghanistan but they would have to work with the Mexico government
The only weapon that would work against the cartels is some sort of irremovable, anti-needle plate armor that prevents Americans from shoving drugs up their snouts.
How much of the cartels income comes from human trafficking?
Unironically, I think drugs need to be aggressively stigmatized, and we need capital punishment for drug dealers on the first offense.
It would be an absolute disaster for the US, probably even lead to a collapse of the country,
>Cartels go to ground
>US soldiers get twitchy and shoot a few Mexican civilians
>Cartels grow larger from angry Mexicans and turn into actual political groups
People here think mexican cartels and the taliban are remotely comparable, most cartel fighters are just retards looking for a power trip and won't stick around when GBUs start falling, they aren't hardened mujahedin that will go an a jihad across mexico and the united states. The hard part will be somehow uprooting the cartels from the goverment, which is difficult because they get a lot of money from bribes.
If even the Mexican Army with armored technicals can roll up and BTFO cartels I think any competent western nation could handle them. They lack any firepower to deal with military toys.
They're not gonna come out in the open, so it'd probably be like the fight against the Taliban
The Mexican government has virtually no control over the north and it is virtually a seceded narcostate. If you had some kind of joint op with the Mexican government to actually establish a justice system and policing there that could stop you might accomplish something temporarily. I think ultimately you’re fighting natural entropy, though. People aren’t blank slates that can achieve anything, they have genetic limitations. Northern Mexico is full of low-IQ Indios who live in a shitty desert just like their ancestors did because their ancestors were too retarded to leave the desert. The US side of the border isn’t much better for the most part. Mexican cities in this region are barnacles on US border cities, and even back in the good old days of (relatively to now) nonviolent coke smuggling and low(er than now) human trafficking they were still in the prostitution business for US sex tourists. Their only potential source of increasing their income is that and sneaking illegal shit in and out of the US. If they made meth legal tomorrow they would find something worse to profit off of and people would violently fight for control of it. It’s whack-a-mole from here to eternity like all law enforcement is unless you go full DPRK and establish a fucking shoot-on-sight DMZ and use ground penetrating radar to bust tunnels 24/7. If something pays well then somebody will do it, no matter how dangerous it is.
That's fucking retarded, indians lived in the place for thousands of years with access to psychedelic drugs and nobody went and started a cartel then.
1) they never developed writing or the wheel either. They were dumb as fuck.
2) they didn’t share a porous border with a first world nation with unlimited cash motivating them to violate the border.
>no wheels
totally false, they had toys with functional wheels they just didn't have any fucking draft animals until Europeans arrived. hence no wagons.
>no writing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_writing_systems
Also, the Inca had a continent-spanning empire just using string counting and runners. Fuck just google this shit, how are people so fucking stupid when they have so much knowledge at their fingertips???
>toy wheels
Cope
>illustrations, not even pictograms, are writing
Cope
The lengths people will go to pretend their culture is just as good is really something.
It'd look like your average mass shooting in the US but with far more more civilians being slaughtered by masked cartel members.
isn't the point of being in a cartel to 'have stuff' not living in a cave and doing jihad?
if you fight with the USA - you lose all your stuff.
Maybe we should mass convert all of the Mexicans to Islam, or import a shitload of Pashtuns and Chechens to live in Mexico.
The question is really whether or not whoever conducts it goes full Dueterte or not.
Destroying cartel c&c would be easy and doable in a few days. The problem is maintaining a proper counterinsurgency force that would keep them from slowly seizing control again.
Why are non-white countries so corrupt?
You thought Mexicans were rushing that border NOW?
>Day 500 of the American Special Military Operation to De-cartelify Mexico...
WELL DELTA/CAG TRAINED WHAT TURNED OUT TO BE NEW JALISCO CARTEL AS PART OF AN ANTI INSURGENT/TERRORISM TRAINING PROGRAM LOL
Like losing 283000 men
Fun
>special operation
What Russia was doing before they went full retard, that is a very successful supported operation that achieved all it's goals.
But why would the US military fight itself?
It would look like a gangfuck of dead people on both sides, mostly the cartels, then a clumsy, embarrassing retreat after 7 years while claiming complete victory, and then a surge in drug and human trafficking due to the now even more unstable border.
Mission: accomplished.
>What would a special military operation against Mexican cartels look like
1 or 2 SOG doods calling in drone strikes
Since stabilizing northern Mexico is never going to happen there is only one way to beat the cartels using the military: make serious efforts to close the southern border. Declare that Mexico has lost control of Northern Mexico and label it a rogue state and hostile foreign power. Illegal aliens serve as mules for cartel-controlled coyotes, so stop allowing illegal crossings. Deport them. Dump them back on the other side of the border and tell them to start walking. Use force and imprisonment to deter coyotes. They aren’t US nationals, if they offend repeatedly you can call it a national security threat and they get fucking GITMOd. Blow up their tunnel systems. Erect barriers. Use unmanned surveillance. Fighting them on the Mexico side is retarded.
You’ll never see a serious effort to secure the border. Every presidential candidate prior to Biden promised to erect a physical barrier and increase presence there. Obama and Bush both built small portions of the wall Trump promised to complete. Everyone in the US, except for the people with political power to stop crossings, want it to end and have consistently voted for it to end. It could end. But it doesn’t. People make a lot of money from the open border.
Agent Orange
The same way the war in Afghanistan looked like. You can't kill the cartel.