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250 Piece Survival Gear First Aid Kit

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250 Piece Survival Gear First Aid Kit

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your birth

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was adopted.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the pain of thinking you're the army's biological gun, then finding this out

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        unfortunately OP's only shooting blanks

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        lmfao

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Woulda been nice if it were cheaper

    The optic is fantastic and the machine gun is great too, the rifle is a bit heavy and the hit to total ammo isn't AMAZING, but the total tradeoffs I think end up being worthwhile.

    if you look at the actual money spent most of it goes to the optic, so it's clear where the army thinks the value in the program really is.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The optic sucks too! Yes it's better than nothing, but compared to a smart scope like tracking point or smart shooter it's stone age.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then why didn't they submit their designs for the program?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't care about the bureaucratic excuses anon. I'm stating the technological facts.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well that's not how procurement fricking works?

            Can these other companies make enough optics to fulfil the US Army needs? Are they sourcing all of their components from the US as required by US law for all military procurement?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What about 'I don't care' don't you understand anon?
              None of this is new or complex stuff. The electronic components and ballistic solvers are proven. The army adopted something 5% better when it could have had something 1000% better for no clear reason.

              Well. No clear reason except big israeli milkers giving titjobs to the contracting officials. That and the powder coke is probably a factor.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >smart scope like tracking point
        What's the cost and scalability of that?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          1:1 with the Sig scopes. The expensive part is the rangefinding laser, which Sig uses too; the rest is old proven software.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            just looked at tracking point and pic rel is what you want? That's fricking cancer of the highest order.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              UI is just software, that UI is obviously meant to appeal to civvies.
              Man, having incline, cant, range, and wind all factored in to your reticle is fricking sweet.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The NGSW-FCS already does elevation, temp, humidity, atmospheric pressure, cant, range. It doesn't do wind because only knowing the wind at the shooters location doesn't really provide much benefit to the final ballistic result if there is downrange crosswind you can't measure.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It doesn't do wind because only knowing the wind at the shooters location doesn't really provide much benefit to the final ballistic result if there is downrange crosswind you can't measure.
                Downrange doesn't matter much, first part of trajectory wind affects bullet much more.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Moron, when downrange the bullet is losing velocity making it move through the air slower providing more time for wind to effect the final impact point.

                Wind downrange, especially on long range shooting is far more important than wind at the shooter's location.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're arguing with an anon that genuinely believes some sports focused gimmick scope from last decade will compete with an FCS purpose built for the tasks the army wants it to do (coincidentally, not make heccin sick shots on bucks from 45 meters away in a tree stand)

                of course he's a fricking moron

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thing is small deflection close to shooter grows into large deflection with range. Bullet that flies 5" to the at 100 yards would be flying 50" to the left at 1000 yards even if all wind stopped past 100 yards.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty sure the first part of the trajectory is almost entirely unaffected by wind since the muzzle blast creates an air blast that will outdo any crosswind at the barrel anyway.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The NGSW-FCS already does elevation, temp, humidity, atmospheric pressure, cant, range. It doesn't do wind because only knowing the wind at the shooters location doesn't really provide much benefit to the final ballistic result if there is downrange crosswind you can't measure.

                Thing is small deflection close to shooter grows into large deflection with range. Bullet that flies 5" to the at 100 yards would be flying 50" to the left at 1000 yards even if all wind stopped past 100 yards.

                Doesn't matter, I just looked it up and the tracking point optic mentioned doesn't actually measure wind.

                It just allows you to input a wind measurement YOU take with a separate device.

                Pic related from the operating manual.

                Which is the same shit you can do with the NGSW-FCS as it has automatically displayed 10mph wind holds, but you can adjust those to whatever wind you have at the time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So this moron

                The optic sucks too! Yes it's better than nothing, but compared to a smart scope like tracking point or smart shooter it's stone age.

                is indeed just a homosexual.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              holy shit

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Sig scopes
            what does that have to do with the NGSW optic?

            It's not SIG.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Word.
        Also wtf 1-8x?
        3x15x plus piggybacked micro dot > 1-8x.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For us. Whole program is negligible cost considering DoD budget.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      would be nicer if it brought any value as a weapon to the average soldier. The optic can go any weapon, the software for M4 and other weapons was done before the M7 was even out so you dont get to act like the optic belongs to the M7. Even With that optic its going to be worse in pretty much every scenario inside of 400m.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they don't even need the rangefinder
        sig is a scam

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          SIG doesn't make the range finder or optic.

          Why can't you people do the basic level of research before you post?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They came here to shit on SIG, not to learn something.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The optic is fantastic
      Yeah like 12 grand fantastic. Does everyone need have a year's salary for a PFC bolted to the top of their rifle?
      When the enemy is beyond 300 meters the rifleman's job is to keep him suppressed, while someone calls for fires. He likely won't even see the enemy even with a fancy scope, because people under fire seek cover or concealment.
      I could see giving one man per squad a battle rifle and this scope. (But not at the expense of an automatic rifle like the British did)
      There is no need for every man in a squad to have this barbell strapped to them when the reaction contact beyond 300 yards will always be to call in mortars.
      Even in Afghanistan, it would have been tarded to make this the standard issue to everyone.
      c**ts fricked.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Army is compartmentalized
    https://usawc.libguides.com/megacities/urban_warfare
    https://www.army.mil/article/205817/warfare_in_megacities_a_new_frontier_in_military_operations
    https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/02/26/the-subterranean-battlefield-warfare-is-going-underground-into-dark-tight-spaces/
    They should adopt a suppressed mk18 but instead they went with the last war's weapon. Optimized for Afghanistan
    National security institutions fell off in general. "Intelligence" doesn't know languages any more

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >instead they went with the last war's weapon. Optimized for Afghanistan
      sure

      >They should adopt a suppressed mk18
      a suppressed mk18 isn't optimized for afghanistan or a near peer conflict

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they should not adopt a suppressed mk18 those guns beat themselves to death with their 10.3 inch barrel and provide less lethality for most scenarios. Just update the fricking m4, URGI or something. O and use the new optic.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >provide less lethality for most scenarios
        what scenarios? America is the last one stupid enough to go into the mountains of Afghanistan, everyone else is fighting up close, in cities, raiding bunkers, trenches, assaulting mg nests, no one is sitting there like morons engaging with 1 goat herder on the mountain across from them with m4s anymore

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/ZlrkxBi.jpeg

      What went wrong

      Boomers don't know about mai FPV drones.
      No, really. FPV drones are ultimate overmatch to Afganistan long range small arms ambushes.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    man, they're really trying to integrate everything into the optics and make it do everything but your taxes.

    but the optics must be 3 pounds if it does so much shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ~2.5lbs supposedly

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So uuuuhh, have you guys actually shot it or what? I’m still waiting to form my own opinion until my battalion gets it. Until then all you guys sound like gays arguing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not the mil version, but a richgay buddy of mine sperged out for one. it was... okay? idk most of the features are intended for military use, didn't feel like 5.56, felt like less than .308, but not quite 7.62 either. didn't feel as much gas in my face with the suppressor, it might be okay? i'm just not sure how much of an advantage it offers yet. heavier, sure, but my AR-10's been heavier than a M4 for a while anyways so i didn't notice it much.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the optic is utterly pointless. every engagement on the current qual is a center hold. If all we needed was giving the shooter a hold, then everyone would be shooting 40/40 right now.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Feature creep. I don't care what anyone says, the NGSW was not isolated and the programs before it were very much part of it.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Taqitul youtubers ruined society

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