Despite Europeans always wanting to conquer and christianize others, before 1500 they have only
>lost Rus to Mongols
>conquered Holy land and then lost it
>lost Bizantium to Muslims
>reconquered Spain (which took 700 years while Mongols conquered half of the old world in a few decades)
>Built the most succesful region of the world
i dont know mr pooskin
It became succesful after incorporating guns (which aren't even an european invention) and good warships. And even then they had pretty much trouble with Turks.
>which aren't even an european invention
It absolutely was though.
Medieval Europe was a shithole well behind a number of otehr places, tho.
>Medieval Europe was a shithole well above a number of otehr shitholes, tho.
Ftfy
Post your gun real quick
no, you shut up pooskin. eurogoblins really delude themselves thinking they have white skin and not just brown skin.
What?
I prefer to make historical military threads on a board for poeple interested in milotaries then on a board for people interested in HALLELUYAH JESUS CHRIST
It's mostly due to the government system that Europe used. It caused a lot of infighting and lack of loyalty. Compare that to the Muslim empires and the Mongols where it was far more centralized, preventing coups and retarded infighting. Notice that as soon as European countries/powers started getting more centralized, the Europeans started making great progress holding and taking land.
The mongol empire broke apart due to infighting, the European feudal system and inheritance laws may have caused infighting between European countries, but if you look at most of European civil wars they still didn't split the countries.
Christcucks kept killing each other instead of working together.
The Crusade era saw Europe more united than it has ever been until the world wars.
>lost Rus to Mongols
Rus wasn't European. It was literally asiatic borderlands nobody cared about.
>conquered Holy land and then lost it
Held it for 100 years while deep inside
>lost Bizantium to Muslims
Crusaders fucked over Byzantium a century before muslims
>which took 700 years
Most of Spain was reconquered in 2-300 years tops.
>while Mongols conquered half of the old world in a few decades
They got BTFO out of Europe even faster.
actual Rus was literally modern day ukraine/belarus/novgorod
even after christianizing they raided byzantines for lulz
Terrible system of government, bad logistics
Feudalism is retarded. Notice how Europe started getting stronger once the state started centralizing everything.
Feudalism is based. Notice how Europe started genociding each other and ruining everything once the wannabe tyrants got their hands on countries.
>Feudalism is based.
Feudalism was nagger tier shit. So many wars and problems were lost and caused because some homosexual got butthurt that he would miss out on some title or not get 0.02% of some land, leading to them chimping out. Most Lords/Dukes at the time were fucking retards that just spent their time killing their brothers or cousin's over a fucking horse or some dumb shit.
>So many wars and problems were lost and caused because some homosexual got butthurt that he would miss out on some title or not get 0.02% of some land
As opposed to some war where a shitty tyrant razed the country of his inbred cousin tyrant that saw an opportunity to do a land grab and put his nephew on the throne while taxing all of his people to death to fund this war?
Contrarian opinion.
I think feudalism while having much negatives in the end was another important ingredient to kickstart industrial revolution in Europe.
See Asiatic centralized despotism while can centralize massive amount of resources ultimately fail into stagnation spiral. Too much power and too much authority means these resources are spent to worship The Great Leader. There is no place for individualism that is the key ingredient of the competition, entrepreneurship and innovation.
In Europe feudal fragmentation curbed power of the tyrants. Sure there could be local tyrants going full retard but you move 100 miles away and this is another ruler. While its still same country, same people, same language, same culture. You migrate without big downfalls of migration. Look at the biographies of the people in Italy during Renaissance. They were city state hopping all the time. Exiled from one city-state? Just go to the next. This reduction of the sate power created good environment for meritocratic individualist development. Craftsmen, merchants, investors they all could strive in the fragmented Europe and if the tyrant comes at them they jsut move to another state and there are bazillion of them. Also this potential threat curbs tyrants abuse, because they know if they would be harsh with their people they just move to his enemy.
When in large Asian tyrannies like Russia if the Putin doesn't like you its over. So main quality for success is skill of kissing Putin's boot, everything else is unimportant.
>So many wars and problems were lost and caused because some homosexual got butthurt that he would miss out on some title or not get 0.02% of some land, leading to them chimping out. Most Lords/Dukes at the time were fucking retards that just spent their time killing their brothers or cousin's over a fucking horse or some dumb shit.
And you'd notice the death tolls were normally well under the percentage of modern wars, and could be reined in much easier than modern wars.
Is this a PrepHole raid? Who glorifies fucking shitskins, of all things?
>Is this a PrepHole raid?
Most likely considering the low quality
The whole continent was getting periodically and rhythmically pounded by Big Black Rat Cock whittling down its population to about five dozen heavily inbred people. Real Medievalfags will be the first to tell you that a handful meme cRUsAIDS aside, theirs was a placeholder era until the Renaissance rolled in.
White peoples cannot stick together and will in fight as well as denigrate one another over the pettiest things. This has only gotten worse in modern times.
A black, Muslim, most Asians and hispanics will see a fellow black, Muslim, Asian or Hispanic being beat upon by a different race and will step in to help, while a white will see a fellow white be beaten by another race and will think “glad it’s not me” or “not my problem” or even worse still “well that guy probably did something to deserve that”
what the fuck is that post hahaa is this some kind of retarded bait ??
yeah looks like really bad /misc/ bait
He’s spitting facts
I would say he didn't take it far enough. Whites in fact don't have the necessary IQ to understand that you need to help your fellow man. For thousands of years everyone understood that in warfare you need superior numbers to win. Whites these days can't comprehend that in order to win on the streets you need numbers.
>more b8
In nature a wolf pack which didn't understand how to group up would quickly perish. That's just an evolutionary fact. You don't need to complicate things because in nature no mental gymnastics exists, it's manmade nonsense.
>mongol conquered half of the world in a few decades
>chinkland and sandnaggerstan
I wonder what is the other half of the old worlds.
>militaries
There were no militaries outside Byzantium. This was a feudal world and since this is /k/ not PrepHole (>implying those fucks know anything about history), just imagine it as a massive area taken over by Mafia.
The kingdoms are cities/streets that various mafias hold control over. Everything is built on loyalty and trust with a hierarchy going up to the king, Don homosexual. Church is the police. They're omnipresent, not very effective and take a portion of the common people's salary but they do stand up for them if things get bad.
You can't create a military with a mafia. Even if some shitholes in and around the Carribean have a few that successfully larp as such at times. That's what your average medieval European kingdom at war is, basically.
Feudal organisation a society defined by personal bonds, and inherent to it is protection and service, which is military in nature. Its just an development of the late western roman system, and byzantium both harboured many aspects of latin feudalism, and adopted many elements of latin feudalism over time. Mafias are an extremely poor comparison.
Feudal armies had clearly defined obligations and expectations of service, its a decentralised military, but its a military nonetheless, the society itself is a military one, and service in war is nothing more than an extension of their existing personal relationships and obligations. Feudal militaries also change over time and have different components.
Theres the household retainers-knights and serjeants, who are professionals and full-time, Philip II of France had some 7,000 professional serjeants-at-arms manning various royal garrisons and acting as the core of his infantry. Serjeants would often take charge of levies, hence the name. Levies could vary from a mass-levy to a more calculated one where each community pays and arms a few of its own men, or hires them, but they were understood to be of limited duration, and difficult to arrange in practice due to high local autonomy.
Feudal knights gave customary 40 days service on campaign, beyond which they expected pay and liked to consider service optional, but they could be forced to serve even against their will, if the king was powerful or popular enough.
Great lords and barons were expected to provide a certain number of knights and serjeants in their retinues, and attend themselves.
Certain towns and cities had their own arrangements, they would directly agree to provide well armed and trained men as and when the king required them.
In the high middle ages there were many mercenary companies, which were not independent but rather just companies which were created and signed up for campaigns, and existed as an extension of feudal society.
Post antiquity europeans have been much more industrious than any civilization ever recorded.
My belief is that civilizations which abolished slavery and progressively reduced serfdom end up more chaotic/unstable but also much more industrious because subjects/citizens had to work to generate wealth which ended up encouraging technology advancements and competition.
This results in bigger demographics and better weapons long terms.
Typically the US civil war was a testament to that with northern states with citizens who had to develop an industry to generate wealth and southern states which had a slaver aristocracy who just relied on (relatively) free labor.
You can also observe the same thing about Russia vs France during the Napoleonic era (at least until the fateful campaign of Russia) or Germany vs Russia during WW1 and early WW2. Serfdoms was long abolished in Western Europe but it was still a thing in practice before the Bolshevik Revolution.
Meanwhile muslim society changed very little between the Abbasids up to the last days of the Ottomans. Not even talking about places like India which still have a 2500 years old caste system in place.
>which abolished slavery
Slavery was just a really inefficient way to get workers. Their life expectancy below 10 years as slave and the quality could be more than mediocre. Iirc Gaul pottery pseudo industry was very superior and didn't rely on slaves.
With all do respect to the Great Khan, half the old world was empty as fuck.
Rus isnt anything to do with the Latins
Holy Land was always hanging on by a thread, it lasted surprisingly long all things considered, it would've lasted longer if not for the papacy causing conflict with the HRE, and preventing a unified secular christian leadership, as it was Frederick II actually managed to negotiate a peaceful return of Jerusalem, and was excommunicated for doing so.
The byzantines have themselves to blame.
People shit on european monarchies, but they owe all those post renaissance development boom to monarchs centralizing their state and making the nobility as a military class obsolete.
>but they owe all those post renaissance development boom to monarchs centralizing their state and making the nobility as a military class obsolete.
It was negative development anon. While monarchs like French Kings removed military power of teh nobility they still fed them rent. Nobility in these countries became parasitic consumers. They are not military anymore but still own huge property and consume consume massive rent. Fifth wheel in teh state. That eventually lead to explosive Revolution.
the only thing in your post that is European is Spain and they won
>hurr it took too long
they won.
Euros also BTFO mongols when they tried shit, unlike subhuman russoids. and taking Byzantium was literally as easy as doing it on accident, they should have done it from the start and actually held onto it and the crusades would have been massively more successful.
too busy to fight each other (thanks to feudal system) to worry about rest of the world - only when economics of scale kicked in europ became too small