If you cut a cross pattern or drill a hole in the tip of a projectile, it can create a sort of expansion effect.
This doesn't work on most service pistol cartridges though, because the bullets don't go fast enough, but it can kind of work on Magnum handgun cartridges, as well as rifle cartridges.
It's not that great however, most off the shelf commercial hollowpoints and softpoints from the past 20+ years will expand MUCH better. Also that appears to be a softpoint he's cutting into already, so it may either do nothing or even reduce performance.
Unless you're fighting vampires, as correctly stated by this anon.
Dum-dum rounds are cartridges which have had their bullets pulled, flipped around, and re-seated.
Dum Dums originally referred to a specific kind of expanding projectile developed at the Dum Dum Arsenal in British India. It came to become a generic name for various field expedient expanding munitions, including bullets with bored out tips, split tips, flipped bullets, etc.
It's not really incorrect to call the bullets modified in OP's image Dum Dums, because that's the old slang term.
>any five adjacent atoms observed from a flat plane form a cross >this happens trillions of times per organism or object >it's literally a Christian shield emblem
Why would you need to carve or make crosses? They are literally everywhere, in everything, inside and out. Even the fricking air is made up of gorillions of little crosses.
Making them into 'dum-dum' rounds, an improvised way to try and increase fragmentation and expansion. Essentially a field expedient attempt at hollow-points. That, and it was it was a 'handy tip' that would've been passed around by word of mouth and magazines, which fits with Travis' mall-ninja/catalogue warrior motif
In the late 1800s the British were cutting the top of the jacket off 303s to expose the lead and called them dumdums, there's a lot of field mods for expanding bullets that fall under that name.
Making them into 'dum-dum' rounds, an improvised way to try and increase fragmentation and expansion. Essentially a field expedient attempt at hollow-points. That, and it was it was a 'handy tip' that would've been passed around by word of mouth and magazines, which fits with Travis' mall-ninja/catalogue warrior motif
Dum-dum rounds are cartridges which have had their bullets pulled, flipped around, and re-seated.
So much fuddlore.
"Dum-Dum" was the name of a British army arsenal located in the Indian city of the same name. There, a guy named Neville Bertie Clay designed a series of expanding bullets for the British army including for the .303 rifle and also the .455 Webley revolver. That is the origin of the name.
Since then it's been used as slang to refer to any kind of expanding bullet, hollow point, etc, but originally the term had nothing to do with stuff like flipping bullets around, cutting them, etc. The original dum-dums were factory ammunition designed & made that way from a British army arsenal.
It's not fuddlore, cutting bullets to make them expand is real and you can do it (for really fast bullets), but it's obsolete when you have decent hollowpoints and softpoints readily available at the store.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I understood your comment about the mod being a gimmick. My point was that the term Dum-Dum was being used incorrectly.
I mean that the misappropriation of 'Dum-Dum' is a fuddlore thing in and of itself.
I understood your comment about the mod being a gimmick. My point was that the term Dum-Dum was being used incorrectly.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I think the X bullet = Dum Dum is actually used in a Bond novel. Not that it makes it "right" per se but it's definitely been a slang term in use for decades.
>That, and it was it was a 'handy tip' that would've been passed around by word of mouth and magazines
I think kids today don't really grasp how limited information was before the internet.
He done this so that when the bullet entered the body, the two (or four, i don't remember what he done) fragments of the bullet would sort of explode into 4 different parts, making more wound channels.
are there any ammo tests videos that show if this even does anything?
Some people have done some tests, yeah, I'll see if I can find one article.
Here it is:
https://www.theboxotruth.com/threads/the-box-o-truth-32-dum-dum-bullets-and-the-box-otruth.356/
In short, cutting Xs in 9mm Luger and .45 Auto FMJ works like fricking shit, but doing with some old M2 Ball (.30-06 Springfield), it worked decently. Turning the bullet backwards with the same load worked pretty well, all things considered.
Overall, this isn't really all that useful in the 21st century, because you can get commercial ammo that already does these things but much better (and which works in non-Magnum handgun cartridges).
yes, if you are not >in an army >in uniform >displaying the flag of.. >a international acknowledged state >signatory to the treaty that specificity says not to do what ever >being attacked by an totally legit army from a totally legit place that also is signatory to the same clause
.ie non uniformed combatants get #wrecked
http://samilitaryhistory.org/vol172tw.html
top tips for field expedient fun
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Some people have done some tests, yeah, I'll see if I can find one article.
Here it is:
https://www.theboxotruth.com/threads/the-box-o-truth-32-dum-dum-bullets-and-the-box-otruth.356/
In short, cutting Xs in 9mm Luger and .45 Auto FMJ works like fricking shit, but doing with some old M2 Ball (.30-06 Springfield), it worked decently. Turning the bullet backwards with the same load worked pretty well, all things considered.
Overall, this isn't really all that useful in the 21st century, because you can get commercial ammo that already does these things but much better (and which works in non-Magnum handgun cartridges).
Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn00vr6s-ks
Been doing this since I was like 10.
It's just split-shot
How do people not know about this?
Right? This is shit people used to do all the time.
He was making fragmentation bullets to increase the chance of multiple wound paths and transmit all the energy to hydrostatic shock.
It doesn't matter whether it's valid or not, it's something guys actually did do in Vietnam, guys with 10x the kill-count of people like that one SEAL sniper, who saw the effects in their everyday lives.
This knowledge became available to reporters who passed it on to other Viet Vet interviewees.
This type of practice also spread among the dispossed vets and other wacko culture that grew up in the late70s/early80s, to include such /k/gays as Areba McIntyre and John Grossman shooting at sandworms.
It definitely works and it's a known thing to do, anyone can do it.
YT grifters be damned nobody sane gives one frick what online gungays say except that TN dude with the deep voice.
You cut crosses into semi jacketed lead tipped ammo in case of vampires, haven't you seen Dusk Till Dawn?
If you cut a cross pattern or drill a hole in the tip of a projectile, it can create a sort of expansion effect.
This doesn't work on most service pistol cartridges though, because the bullets don't go fast enough, but it can kind of work on Magnum handgun cartridges, as well as rifle cartridges.
It's not that great however, most off the shelf commercial hollowpoints and softpoints from the past 20+ years will expand MUCH better. Also that appears to be a softpoint he's cutting into already, so it may either do nothing or even reduce performance.
Unless you're fighting vampires, as correctly stated by this anon.
Dum Dums originally referred to a specific kind of expanding projectile developed at the Dum Dum Arsenal in British India. It came to become a generic name for various field expedient expanding munitions, including bullets with bored out tips, split tips, flipped bullets, etc.
It's not really incorrect to call the bullets modified in OP's image Dum Dums, because that's the old slang term.
>any five adjacent atoms observed from a flat plane form a cross
>this happens trillions of times per organism or object
>it's literally a Christian shield emblem
Why would you need to carve or make crosses? They are literally everywhere, in everything, inside and out. Even the fricking air is made up of gorillions of little crosses.
It's about intent
So pick up literally any object with intent. Or wave some air at them with intent.
Instructions unclear, started HRT.
Creating an expansion cavity, making those bullets dumdums
Making them into 'dum-dum' rounds, an improvised way to try and increase fragmentation and expansion. Essentially a field expedient attempt at hollow-points. That, and it was it was a 'handy tip' that would've been passed around by word of mouth and magazines, which fits with Travis' mall-ninja/catalogue warrior motif
Dum-dum rounds are cartridges which have had their bullets pulled, flipped around, and re-seated.
In the late 1800s the British were cutting the top of the jacket off 303s to expose the lead and called them dumdums, there's a lot of field mods for expanding bullets that fall under that name.
So much fuddlore.
"Dum-Dum" was the name of a British army arsenal located in the Indian city of the same name. There, a guy named Neville Bertie Clay designed a series of expanding bullets for the British army including for the .303 rifle and also the .455 Webley revolver. That is the origin of the name.
Since then it's been used as slang to refer to any kind of expanding bullet, hollow point, etc, but originally the term had nothing to do with stuff like flipping bullets around, cutting them, etc. The original dum-dums were factory ammunition designed & made that way from a British army arsenal.
anon, it literally is fuddlore. It's a fudd tacticool gimmick mod, that's what we're saying
It's not fuddlore, cutting bullets to make them expand is real and you can do it (for really fast bullets), but it's obsolete when you have decent hollowpoints and softpoints readily available at the store.
I mean that the misappropriation of 'Dum-Dum' is a fuddlore thing in and of itself.
I understood your comment about the mod being a gimmick. My point was that the term Dum-Dum was being used incorrectly.
I think the X bullet = Dum Dum is actually used in a Bond novel. Not that it makes it "right" per se but it's definitely been a slang term in use for decades.
That sounds like a Reversed bullet, not a dum-dum.
Travis was a marine who served in Vietnam.
>That, and it was it was a 'handy tip' that would've been passed around by word of mouth and magazines
I think kids today don't really grasp how limited information was before the internet.
Little /k/ommandos should have to read old SoF magazines as part of their education.
What's this from?
You stupid frick
Whos travis
Travis Walton, he was abducted by aliens
whos aliens
Illegal aliens who come into our country and abduct people
Who's Steve Jobs?
ligma balls
ligma travis
Travis Pickle Rick
Being schizo.
I'm glad that movie has a happy ending.
He dies at the end, that ending is his passing out dream sequence as he's bleeding out on the couch
No he doesn't, moron, he doesn't get shot that bad.
Been a good few years since I saw it but doesn't he take one directly in the jugular?
He done this so that when the bullet entered the body, the two (or four, i don't remember what he done) fragments of the bullet would sort of explode into 4 different parts, making more wound channels.
hallowed be thy tips
Boomer making diy boomer frangable rounds.
Pre-cut failure points in a bullet enhance expansion/terminal performance.
does the cross section look kind of... erotic to anyone else?
No. Touch ass
You aren't alone.
He was cutting up the bullets to make them last longer
illegal exploding bullet
Not illegal.
Some people have done some tests, yeah, I'll see if I can find one article.
Here it is:
https://www.theboxotruth.com/threads/the-box-o-truth-32-dum-dum-bullets-and-the-box-otruth.356/
In short, cutting Xs in 9mm Luger and .45 Auto FMJ works like fricking shit, but doing with some old M2 Ball (.30-06 Springfield), it worked decently. Turning the bullet backwards with the same load worked pretty well, all things considered.
Overall, this isn't really all that useful in the 21st century, because you can get commercial ammo that already does these things but much better (and which works in non-Magnum handgun cartridges).
yeah i figure you need quite a lot of velocity to cause lead to peel instead of just smoosh
yes, if you are not
>in an army
>in uniform
>displaying the flag of..
>a international acknowledged state
>signatory to the treaty that specificity says not to do what ever
>being attacked by an totally legit army from a totally legit place that also is signatory to the same clause
.ie non uniformed combatants get #wrecked
http://samilitaryhistory.org/vol172tw.html
top tips for field expedient fun
yo that Woolwich Mk VI looks fricking nasty
are there any ammo tests videos that show if this even does anything?
Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn00vr6s-ks
Been doing this since I was like 10.
Right? This is shit people used to do all the time.
Making Chicago Popcorn
He was making fragmentation bullets to increase the chance of multiple wound paths and transmit all the energy to hydrostatic shock.
It doesn't matter whether it's valid or not, it's something guys actually did do in Vietnam, guys with 10x the kill-count of people like that one SEAL sniper, who saw the effects in their everyday lives.
This knowledge became available to reporters who passed it on to other Viet Vet interviewees.
This type of practice also spread among the dispossed vets and other wacko culture that grew up in the late70s/early80s, to include such /k/gays as Areba McIntyre and John Grossman shooting at sandworms.
It definitely works and it's a known thing to do, anyone can do it.
YT grifters be damned nobody sane gives one frick what online gungays say except that TN dude with the deep voice.
>except that TN dude with the deep voice.
Hickok45?
Shame Travis only gets to use is 29 to blow the figers off the bouncer.
I'm surprised that his 29-2 is lasting all that much. I read that the 29-2 is an accurate gun, but a bit delicate.
Making it phillips compatible.
Phillips head rounds are superior in every way. They are the best way to deal with someone with a couple screws loose
amogus
It's just split-shot
How do people not know about this?