What the HELL is POLAND plotting buying so many things?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    So that a certain rotten asian muttistan didn't get any stupid ideas.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This looks like a logistical nightmare

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      not really. Koreans operate a lot of US gear themselves so they built their gear to be compatible with US stuff. afaik, all Korean equipment is link 16 compatible or upgradable to be so.

      The ratio seems kinda weird doesn't it? So many MBT's and less IFVs?

      As a europoor, I really hope that the Poles are going to follow through, and build a military that actually matters. But what about personnel? Do people actually want to serve? Is the pay and benefits good enough?

      It only shows their purchases, not their complete inventory.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Then the question rests on Polish acclimation to American supplies. Their MSBS rifles (godfrickingdamn I want a bullpup with a 37mm UBPL so I can use my homemade shells) tickle the STANAG itch fine, but that OP implies Borsuks can be supplied by American-made parts and ammo.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Those Korean tanks and equipment are part of a tech swap. So the Poles are not only getting the tanks, but the know-how to create and maintain their own fleet, as well as develop their own variants in the future.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The okrainian conflict showed you still need massive reserves of hardware.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How is the K9A1? That looks like a big barrel.
    >M1A2 instead of latest Leo2 upgrades
    They didn't like the Leo2? 🙁

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      M1A2 SEPv3 is brand new, production only began 3 years ago. And the US is offering them on a fast time table.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Germany fricked over Poland with leo2 upgrades while Poland had super pro german government. Now Poland has very anti german government.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        i mean its not quite as aUUnti german as it was

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      itz a silencer

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Because German bureaucracy is western equivalent of Russian corruption. The delays and cost increases are not worth getting latest Leo when USA can deliver latest SEPv3 Abrams faster and likely cheaper.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Poland is a good boy and good boys get their rewards :). They're not even the moronic armor versions. I hope to see some Abrams during the next armed forces day.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I mean Poland has a very anti-German government and they probably see Germany as a potential enemy...
      The Leopards certainly have back doors that the Germans could make use of (remote shutdowns or whatever) which of course isn't the case with the American gear.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Leo2 has been shown to be shit. Should have joined the US and UK chobham programs.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    US wants to focus less on Russia and more on China so it’s up to the other NATO members to finally pull their weight, and Poland just so happens to be the most proactive. Old Soviet shit simply isn’t going to cut it anymore.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Poland will get stomped like it always has. They will cry and b***h about it, but they will raise a white flag to whoever decides to conquer them again and that’ll be it for them. At least until some other benevolent power decides to piece humpty polandty back together again.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This is such a wishful cope it's not even funny the only time Poland got rolled over was in ww2 by the blitz. They humiliated the bolsheviks and their dreams a decade before that.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        By whom? Russia will cease to exist before any of that shit even gets to Poland.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    poland has a hard-on from the centuries of oppression from the same kind of russia that exists today. and now they get to do something about it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean by "hard-on"? An erection to the idea of being oppressed?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        it's a reddit meme, laugh upvote and don't ask questions

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    God fricking damn, I pray for whoever tries to frick with the Poles

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why are Ztards so butthurt about Poland?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Acting like Poland somehow has a history of winning. They have literally only ever lost wars since the 1700s.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Then there's nothing to worry about, Piet'ya.*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~)

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          they won the one in the very post you're replying to? moron

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >posting battles
        lmfao
        polands entire history is losing wars and getting occupied forever

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          ok ge*m. poland today could easily destroy everyone that wronged them in history

          >Verification not required.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            literally the only reason poland isn't occupied right this second is because of their alliances to other greater powers
            as will always be the case

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >evil HATO nazi satanists making their military bases in every country around the poor poor pucciya
              >the only reason poland isn't occupied right this second is because of their alliances to other greater powers
              vatnik mind in nutshell

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                wrong, I hate both of them

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I think you are referring to Russia the only reason they aren't occupied by Estonia is because they have nukes. If at this moment Russia didn't have ICBMs there would have been no Russia.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Irony is they are a US vasal state now and they will pay a lot of shekels to the US.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            this lol
            literal slav(e)s to germanoids and americans

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              kek you're a fricking Hispanic how do you even have the audacity to talk shit about literally anyone

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            how much do you mutts give to israel each and every year?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          reddit meme based on normies not knowing anything about history besides WW2 (which poland has officially won btw sonit doesn't even make sense in your context)
          your holy ebin germany on the other hand has only 150 of years of history (80 id we don't count that part when germany was being occupied by someone)

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      for a time Poland was under the Russian empire. So they mistakenly think it will be their rightful clay.

      inb4 Poland secedes from NATO and strait up declares war on Russia.

      no one will ever invade Russia unless they want to get irradiated. hence the pointlessness of putin invading ukraine. Russia is safe from invasion they have more nukes than anyone else.
      ukraine invasion is a senseless power grab

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I meant that so they can enter Ukraine and fight directly. Russia hasn't used nukes yet so it's probably maybe within bounds.
        or park those forces in Georgia, Moldovia, etc and form a new former soviet alliance.
        or maybe have a special military operation in Belarus to redo their elections. that would be pretty hilarious.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >ukraine invasion is a senseless power grab
        when will you westerners finally figure out this is about attempting to build yet another empire. For the turko-mongol asiatic nogs there will be no peace until everything is russki mir. Like for islam peace means everybody else has been forcibly converted or killed

        NOOKS can not and will not be a argument to stop counter pushes of containing and destroying this cancerous biomass before it kills us all

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Because Poland’s existence destroys many Russian delusions and propaganda narratives.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Vatniks are eternally butthurt about states that historically did what Russia claims they did.
      >Kievan Rus - historical center of the Rus and the "fifth Rome (Moscow is not even in the top 10 "Romes")
      >Ingermanland - origin of Russian identity
      >Bulgaria - cultural center of old Slav culture, origin of Slav alphabet and the Old Church Slavonic
      >Ruthenia - Continuation of Kievite culture
      >Poland - Large multi-ethnic state that blunted Ottoman expansion into Europe and halted German expansion eastward, Slav cultural center after the fall of Bulgaria

      You could probably add the UK to the list for having been the empire Russia always aspired to be, giving up on it and remaining somewhat relevant.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        they're extremely buttmad about UK for some reason
        does anyone have that russian ad where English girl travles to russia to meet a guy there and his flat is full of other british girls? Bizarre stuff

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Don't have it on me but I remember it. The whole gimmick was the British girl was freezing in her apartment in ice-age-level winter UK, browsing through a tinder-style app and passing on all the other inexplicably poor, and also very cold British men. Only for her to stumble upon the profile of a rich, very well-heated Russian. She heads over (how exactly is anyone's guess) to Russia, only to find the apartment full of other thirsty British thots.

          Russian propaganda is sometimes fricking absurdist/surrealist-level art.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Don't have it on me but I remember it. The whole gimmick was the British girl was freezing in her apartment in ice-age-level winter UK, browsing through a tinder-style app and passing on all the other inexplicably poor, and also very cold British men. Only for her to stumble upon the profile of a rich, very well-heated Russian. She heads over (how exactly is anyone's guess) to Russia, only to find the apartment full of other thirsty British thots.

          Russian propaganda is sometimes fricking absurdist/surrealist-level art.

          It's always projection as well, seeing as Russian women are infamous gold diggers.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Because they know if Poles had the chance they would systematically genocide everyone on Earth who identifies as Russian.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They're mad because they're a relatively large country that successfully crawled out of the post-soviet swamp with a strong position, modern economy and are on a good path towards becoming as developed as western Europe. Meanwhile people in Russia that live outside of the biggest cities in Russia are probably worse off, with half of the state budget directly relying on raw oil and gas prices to prop up the state.

      They're basically like an abusive ex-girlfriend with terrible habits who goes into a frenzy whenever someone mentions her ex-boyfriend that finally regained the spark of life in his eyes and moved on.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Preparation for the collapse of the Muscovite state into warring factions and newly birthed nations in a decade or so.
    Poland wants the metal and material to pick the winners and the losers when that happens. The center of power in Europe is shifting east and there is nothing to be done about it.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The ratio seems kinda weird doesn't it? So many MBT's and less IFVs?

    As a europoor, I really hope that the Poles are going to follow through, and build a military that actually matters. But what about personnel? Do people actually want to serve? Is the pay and benefits good enough?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >But what about personnel? Do people actually want to serve?
      No lol
      >Is the pay and benefits good enough?
      pay is shit, dunno about benefits

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Poland's also got around 900 modern wheeled IFVs

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    because russian wants it. NATO seems pretty solid right now, but remember, just a few years ago a lot of people were calling it pointless and one of the main members, Germany, was moving 70% of their energy over to NATO's main nemesis.
    I would pay anything though to see Poles marching on Moscow

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >HIMARS
    >only 18
    PARDON? You meant 506?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Polish_Land_Forces#Multiple_rocket_launchers

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      500 is bullshit. 40 are confirmed max is probably 200.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >HIMARS
        >only 18
        PARDON? You meant 506?
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Polish_Land_Forces#Multiple_rocket_launchers

        The main thing they're buying are the launchers and will mount them on their own trucks. 18 are actually HIMARS using the correct FMTV chassis. They're gonna do something similar to the Krab, use a polish chassis and a foreign gun/launcher.

        https://notesfrompoland.com/2023/02/08/poland-to-buy-10-billion-in-himars-rocket-launchers-and-ammunition/
        >The US State Department has agreed to sell Poland nearly 500 HIMARS launcher [loader module kits]. Most of them will be mounted on Polish trucks.

        https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2023/02/07/us-clears-poland-to-buy-himars-and-ammo-worth-10-billion/
        >The proposed order covers 18 M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, or HIMARS, launchers and 468 launcher-loader module kits.

        People read the headlines and not the details too often, I'm not surprised Wikipedia has incorrect numbers lol

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >krab
          >polish chassis
          chassis is Korean and so is the chassis for the borsuck
          the only moderately decent product of polish mic is a frankenstein monster of foreign parts.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >>krab
            chassis
            Yes, the UPG-NG chassis for the Krab is Polish.

            P.S. Pre K9 chassis license.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >and so is the chassis for the borsuck
            And NO, the K9 has nothing to do with the Borsuk, it was developed years prior and was pretty much finalized (and start testing trails) before the K9 chassis license was bought.
            >The idea of using the sah "Krab" chassis (or its elements) as a base for "Borsuk" is unrealistic, also because at the time when – only after the Ministry of National Defense signs an order for another 4 DMO "Regina" – HSW SA will start to take over the construction documentation of the K9 chassis from Hanwha Techwin, preliminary tests of the pre-prototype IFV "Borsuk" should already be underway.
            https://defence24.pl/borsuk-wychodzi-z-jamy-nowy-bwp-w-dwoch-odslonach

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Again, Borsuk chassis is NOT the K9 chassis.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Kapish?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/vm8FAom.jpg

              Again, Borsuk chassis is NOT the K9 chassis.

              https://i.imgur.com/cAlL0e2.jpg

              Kapish?

              homie, the IFV market is saturated as frick, especially in Europe. There is precisely zero interest in the borsuck. Using the K9 chassis would have been the only smart thing you dumb fricks ever did because then at least you could have saved money on RnD for a project that has negative export potential.
              I know you want to cling onto your little nationalism but it really doesn't work when aside from the people, all your military assets are either American, German, Korean, or soviet.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Source: my ass

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >IFV market is saturated as frick, especially in Europe. There is precisely zero interest in the borsuck. Using the K9 chassis would have been the only smart thing
                How many modern IFVs can swim within NATO? Can the K9 swim huh? Already there is a niche that can be exploited, especially for 3rd ies that want a modern floatable IFV that is not Russian or Chinese.
                >because then at least you could have saved money on RnD
                Comparatively not much money is put into R&D in Poland as in the west and thus money is used much more effectively. And you get your own licensing-export rights and have control over production and maintenance and thus lower the costs substantially, all while developing Polish tech and economy and providing jobs at home. It's the smartest thing to do.

                P.S. At least 1400 Borsuks will be ordered + talks of additional 600 heavy nonswimming "Borsuk" IFVs that will be now developed from scratch (planned tech demonstrator this year) as well.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >How many modern IFVs can swim within NATO?
                if only poland is doing it, then it's universally accepted as the wrong direction. or are you going to tell us all that some random pole thought of something that all of NATO didn't?
                >Can the K9 swim huh?
                you're asking if a howitzer can swim? fricking moron, lmao
                >Comparatively not much money is put into R&D
                because there's no money left for RnD. why do you think you clowns are raising the defense budget to 6% of gdp? you can barely manage the recent purchases.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >because there's no money left for RnD. why do you think you clowns are raising the defense budget to 6% of gdp? you can barely manage the recent purchases.
                You're so damn moronic it's not even funny.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >if only poland is doing it, then it's universally accepted as the wrong direction. or are you going to tell us all that some random pole thought of something that all of NATO didn't?
                You idiot...
                >you're asking if a howitzer can swim? fricking moron, lmao
                YOU were the one that proposed "just using the K9 chassis" for an IFV that is supposed to swim, moron.
                >because there's no money left for RnD.
                There is some.
                >why do you think you clowns are raising the defense budget to 6% of gdp?
                Because Poland is basically changing out most of its Soviet-era equipment all at once more or less and expanding the armed forces.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You do realize that R&D costs are typically across the board much lower than procurement and operations right?
                For example the F-35's total R&D cost is 71 billion as of 2022 out of the total of 321 billion. The F-35 is a jet aircraft with many advanced technologies etc. So even this example isn't very good since R&D costs are always higher for projects like this, not to mention all the overruns.

                I'd imagine that armored vehicle R&D doesn't quite match aircraft and even if it did a fifth of the total cost might not be what's breaking the bank for the guys in charge of procurement.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >So even this example isn't very good since R&D costs are always higher for projects like this, not to mention all the overruns.
                Speaking of cost overruns... KEK!

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I fricking hate that this thing got fricked so hard. That god damn shore bombardment moronation kills me. Still we got some good tech developed that I'm praying makes it into the DDG-X or LSC or whatever the frick is replacing the eternal burke
                >inb4 burkes on mars

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Don't feel bad, at least 3 of them were built. Things could've been worse, like none at all...

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous
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                Anonymous
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                Anonymous
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                Anonymous
              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Bruh. It will take 15 years to just finish the order for those vehicles. And they need to be able to swim because of Polesie.
                > all your military assets are either American, German, Korean, or soviet.
                you're currently sputtering about a native chassis tho? Hello? Take your meds?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            He's talking about Jelcz chassis, idiot.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous
          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The SUSPENSION for the Borsuk is based on the Korean K9, moron.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Which is not even Korean, but British (Horstman).

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Krab uses Polish domestically produced software, called Topaz, which is pretty good. It allows integration with drones and other stuff.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >the only moderately decent product of polish mic is a frankenstein monster
            TAKE THAT BACK

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >and so is the chassis for the borsuck
            no, There is another vehicle with that chasis. Borsuk is a different thing. Stop repeating journos, kraut coper

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    inb4 Poland secedes from NATO and strait up declares war on Russia.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >secedes from NATO
      They dont need to. A Nato country can launch a "military operation" ala russia. They just wont get support if they get obliterated.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    that himars number is really wrong and low

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    invasion of Germany

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They know that if Ukraine falls, they're next (well, technically, Romania or the Balts might be first). They have some bad memories from the last few times they were conquered.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Someone’s toilet is really clogged

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    current government needs something to show on state propaganda tv before the elections and they don't care that either they or the opposition won't be able to afford it later
    even better if the opposition is in charge by the time it comes to payments because they will have to cut social spending, increase deficit or just straight up cancel contracts
    in any case current gov can claim that they were the ones trying to modernize the military and the opposition once again ruins polish army
    the army is once again the prostitute civilian gov can pimp as it pleases for political purposes

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I think the idea of our ”leaders” is:
    *The UK guted its army, its air force, and spent everything on its fleet and F35s
    *The german military is fricking useless and broken, like their vehicles and planes
    *The French are trying to keep everything while not having the economy to sustain it (jets, land forces, navy, subs and nukes). They just can’t, and also have to regularly finance operations in Africa. So they are bound to have a little of everything, an near impossible task with their budget.
    So Nato decided to strenghten Poland to become the European land army. They only need a tiny coastal fleet for their small coast on a small closed sea. Their Air force needs are rather local and can work under protection of the USAF and the easiest branch that allied europeans can quickly reinforce in times of need. They are mostly monocultural, nationalist, cheap and easily prone to violence. They hope to make them the cannon meat, the boots on the ground. The guardian of the East. And In the future, Ukraine would play the same role.
    The East Wall.

    Using slaves to countain slaves, basically. With the added benefit of providing infantry in future US military operations, like the brits did in afghanistan and Iraq.

    A bit like the roman empire did with the Franks.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Around the late 4th and 5th century, the Salian Franks were refugees that were welcomed into the Roman Empire under the condition of settling at the border (Belgium) and guarding the Empire from the other Franks, Alamans and Saxons.

      It was pretty similar to the Goths that were allowed to settle inside the Empire at the condition of providing troops to serve in the Army. The Franks stayed at the borders, unlike the Goths that kept moving westward. The Franks remained mostly loyal to their bargain with the Roman Empire until it was pretty dead and started cuting themselves their own kingdom in France, unlike the Goths that quite quickly rejected Roman authority.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Election results. Poland is never going to buy all of that unless the government is even more moronic than they have shown themselves to be.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      PiS will win anyway, just look at what the morons in the opposition are doing. Its time to let go of this dumb frick argument.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    annexation of belarus and kaliningrad?

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They're going to take this kpop craze all the way to Berlin.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I don't but it looks fun and keeps me employed.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's just government corruption.

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    To own the Russians. It's next to worthless as far as defence and deterrence go, they're like Marvel fans buying tickets to the latest cinematic goyslop to "own the haters."

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because Poland is now what Germany was during the Cold War when she sported 12 combined arms divisions with more than 7000 MBTs, IFVs and other tanks, reinforced by some 5000 US Army tanks. Poland is now a frontline state.

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't they order like 200 HIMARS at some point?

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Russia is a gay shithole full of closet homosexuals like Ramzan "Bobby Hillovich" Kadyrov

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    total zigger death

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Other euroid countries have been subverted by moronic peaceniks, they just have some common sense left in them.

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    As a Finn i am glad that other nations have finally woken up from the peace dividend slumber, but i have to question the capacity of the polish economy to purchase, maintain and man all these systems in such huge numbers.
    Having a well armed Poland is beneficial for European security, so i wouldn't mind having an arrangement where EU nations subsidize the militaries of nations that are on the frontlines, like Poland and Finland. Especially if the subsidies are used to procure EU equipment. Buying sork equipment just drains that money away from the EU.

    • 1 year ago
      T-I-G-E-R-S

      The EU MIC has the tendency to frick Poland over, be it KMW, Leonardo, RHM or Patria. With Sorks we will rebuild domestic capabilities.

  32. 1 year ago
    T-I-G-E-R-S

    I wouldn't worry about it.

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    look at a map, stupid.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >NATO member
      Doesn't need all that hardware. Simply being being in NATO means the rest of NATO is legally bound to declare war on whoever who attacks a NATO member, meaning material and manpower support. Poland doesn't need all this hardware. Its only getting them because their politicians are corrupt. 1000 tanks are fricking overkill.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You think the US can just paradrop a million soldiers with tanks into Poland on day one? It takes time for governments to wake the frick up and even more time to get boots on the ground. The stronger the local force is the better.
        All those tanks are there first and foremost to replace soviet shit that's now buried in the ground somewhere in Ukraine. It's not an overkill.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It IS overkill. The tanks are supposed to be produced domestically in Poland from 2026 onwards. If war is to reach Poland it would have done so much earlier than that. Making this pointless. Why is it being done then? Corruption. Business. A bunch of poles are going to get filthy rich from this.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            On the bright side they will have lots of tanks.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >building up your defensive capabilities is moronic because there will totally never be a war again, I promise
            Ok.
            Ancient T72s are still useful on the battlefield and you think just because a tank was first made in 2026 its going to be useless 20 years later? Military equipment doesn't age that fast anymore.
            Poland has like 200+ old leo2s now at best, half of the armed forces have nothing to drive on and it's only going to get worse without replacing equipment if they want to prop up Ukraine. You can't rely on allies on for everything.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              You're missing the point. They can easily just buy 250 and still have enough deterrence because they are in NATO. They deliberately bought 1k and are building most of them domestically so a bunch of factory owners or would be factory owners can get that sweet government money. I wouldnt be complaining as much if they bought it all to ship. Instead they are building them locally. The Ukraine conflict is a cover.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Local production means they don't have to rely on expensive foreign replacement parts. It's way cheaper to manufacture them yourself and at the end of the day some part of their price tag will go back into the state through taxes and make it even cheaper.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Cheaper sure. But the one who benefits most are Hyundai and some select few poles.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                And the Polish state alongside it's MIC for having secure and reliable supplies of maintenance parts. Some will profit from the deal more than others but that's just capitalism for you.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Are you trying to concern troll or something?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                NOOOOO NOT LOCALLY? THEY'RE PAYING POLISH MEN TO BUILD TANKS FOR POLAND? THEY'RE CREATING JOBS?????? SOMEONE STOP THESE MADMEN

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >They can easily just buy 250 and still have enough deterrence because they are in NATO.
                I don't think you understand how NATO works kek, article 5 isn't some magic wand. Any conflict with russia is going to happen on Polish soil, so they probably want to have enough critical mass to keep the ziggers from steamrolling them while the rest of NATO deploys

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >to keep the ziggers from steamrolling them
                ziggers' own logistics keep them from steamrolling literally anything

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                > They can easily just buy 250 and still have enough deterrence because they are in NATO

                Russia has signalled that "enough deterrence" isnt actually enough deterrence.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Simply being being in NATO means the rest of NATO is legally bound to declare war on whoever who attacks a NATO member, meaning material and manpower support.

        YEah, eventually.

        Eventually is too late if you're the one being invaded. It's been publically accepted in NATO for a 12 years or so that If Russia wants to take the Baltics, it can and it will, as it will take too long for NATO to gather enough ground forces to stop them, giving Western leaders incentive to accept fait accompli. Polands mass militarization is there to stop that for being a case for them.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      maybe pooland should put all this gear to good use and fix this abominable border gore

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody wants that piece of shit scrap of land.
        >poor as frick
        >underdeveloped
        >uneducated people
        >shit infrastructure

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          then resettle the ivans into russia proper and turn it into a park, idgaf, just get rid of border gore

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            No. This is going to be the seat of russian power once rest of russia is destroyed.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        how come austria isn't in nato anyway?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          They had to promise to stay neutral after WWII and there wasn't a reason to join after USSR died.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          They had to promise to stay neutral after WWII and there wasn't a reason to join after USSR died.

          Shit was a den of both East and West glowies and spooks for 40 years lmao.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Dubs and Dzerzhinsky rises from the grave to genocide Russians again.

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    "Kaliningrad" is such a fricking stain on Europe. The Ruscrement have turned it into a typical Russian dump

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Are we even sure asiatic shits work? Besides the K9 which is kinda proven at this point, I guess.

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Poland invades Russia while it's having a civil war
    >Kills local civilians in occupied areas
    >Settles down with a nice new brace of petrochemical resources to exploit
    >next 30-40 years, any time someone complains about "Polish war crimes" they get inundated with .webms of weeping Russians being executed

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >FA-50
    >fighter aircraft
    *trainer aircraft

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What do you think the F in FA stands for?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Frick ya mudda

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      shush, pajeet

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How are the Polaris going to pay for all of this? I know they’ve had some economic growth, these arms deals must be j the tens of billions, and that’s all on top of their aid to Ukraine.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Look up public debt in europe

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Where is Poland's domestic industry?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      most Korean purchases apart of initial batch will be produced in Poland

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      in the shitter

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        its 20th economy globally - if its shittier than what tier 140 smaller economies are?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Making the majority of those K2s and trucks for the rest of the ordered HIMARS launchers.

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    to replace old stuff they send to Ukraine

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      pewnie złodziej jebany
      Halina dawaj nóż, idę opony w HIMARSie poprzebijać

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It will be a nice collection for Wagner sooner or later.

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