What the hell is going on with the Norks and 14.5mm?

Don't they have enough things that shoot this?

>1000 ZPU-4 batteries=24,000
>5000 tanks with KPV=5000
>8,000 dual APC turrets=16,000
>2000-3000 Gatling guns on boats=2000-3000
>250-300 towed Gatling batteries=1500-1800
>Reserve/Guards units=15,000+

You would think that 60,000+ barrels of 14.5mm would be enough, it's around one 14.5mm per 400 capita. It seems like a irrational addiction but you can't stage a intervention like you would with a guy who drinks too much, instead of him throwing a bottle at you he would shoot you with 14.5mm.

This is a serious thread, i know why they like it but it seems they have some sort of fixation on it. They don't make auto cannon armed IFVs or even 23mm guns, are they just thinking that they can ignore that with enough 14.5mm on APCs? Are they right?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That beats 50 bmg and a high rate of fire of it while backed by big guns and arty would suppress out to the horizon on flat ground.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know that and it compensates for the DPRKs weird disinterest in 23mm not to mention any sort of autocannon armed IFV but when is enough?

      400 14.5mm barrels per capita would be enough for a normal nation, i know they are not a normal nation and have unique national security needs but at some point you have to say stop. What is enough?

      What is even practical or sustainable? With their system i could imagine 200 or even 100 per capita but at the 100 level it would probably become more of a burden than a security guarantee. Or maybe not, could you get down to one KPV/14.5mm barrel per person and still support it practically?

      >200 years from now the Clone Council of Kims releases historical documents showing that they achieved 1-1 citizen to 14.5mm parity in the late 2020s

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >one 14.5mm per 400 capita
        >400 14.5mm barrels per capita
        >imagine 200 or even 100 per capita

        OP, do you know what "per capita" means?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes i do.

          At current count there is one gun barrel that fires 14.5mm for every 400 persons in the DPRK, counting rotary guns as one barrel.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok, I wasn't sure what you were trying to day earlier.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hey, if Best Korea says 14.5mm is Best, then who are we to argue?

        >What is enough?
        1 barrel per capita MINIMUM, preferably 4. Best Korea shall defeat the decadent south with a stream of 14.5mm bullets that will blot out the sun.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well, you have to remember that of those 60.000+ barrels, you probably have somewhere around 6.000 that are actually usable, the rest of them are rusted and pitted so bad they'd shatter to bits if you'd try to fire anything through them.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You are somehow assuming that the decisions are made rationally rather than some strange mix of power politics and inertia. They already have 14.5mm everywhere, so it's seen as a safe choice to just make more.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HMGs are a niche. What more do u need to hear?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      14.5mm isn't quite a HMG nor is it a autocannon, it's in a weird twilight zone.

      manufacturing lines are expensive to make, much more so for the Norks

      Correct. So why do they make so much of it? Did they just start making then say 'it works' then keep mass producing the things for 70+ years?

      Is really just 'makes big holes in people, hurts metal boxes and flying things, make more?'

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They started making it when it was current. But switching to a new caliber or whatever is expensive. Prohibitively expensive. So they keep making this one.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They have the tools to make 14.5mm, so they make 14.5mm. Retooling is expensive and ultimately it wouldn't make a difference in the event of a war.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Stalinism still has an absolute stranglehold on how North Korea as a society operates, they are still very much stuck in the 1950’s Soviet frame of mind even 70 years after the fact.

        >It's her eyes, they're absolutely dead with nothing behind them.
        that's just how our autistic dommy mommy rolls and we love her all the more for it

        God only knows what lies in the mind of a woman raised in such an environment, probably full on Azula tier or some other crazy shit.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          shes the closet we have to azula, thats why we love her

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    manufacturing lines are expensive to make, much more so for the Norks

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    norks can into anti material

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    frick off asiaticshill

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick off Russian Ser poster, /k/ is a Juche Norktard board and we are sick and tired of you shills pretending that you aren't the DPRK and our Iranian bros b***h.

      61186092
      0.0025 per capita...

      Maths are hard sirs...

      Hey, if Best Korea says 14.5mm is Best, then who are we to argue?

      >What is enough?
      1 barrel per capita MINIMUM, preferably 4. Best Korea shall defeat the decadent south with a stream of 14.5mm bullets that will blot out the sun.

      True enough, the AA batteries are 4x6 for 24 per operator. Double that (like the Iranian 8x23mm) and you could get close to one per citizen (48) and still have room for 2 invalids or old people. Workable.

      0.0025 per 1 capita = 1 per 400 capita

      Based math corrector. Report Immediately to the Director of the Publicity and Information Department of the Workers' Party of Korea Office. Make sure to be well cleaned, wear your best suit, sit in the RED chair and read this pamphlet entitled 'the revolutionary applications of oral podiatry' at least three times. Your devotion to Kim Il Sung Thought will be rewarded shortly.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It really is uncanny how Kim Jong Un just looks like some normal fatass asian dude but his sister looks like someone took human skin and stretched it over a skull that it doesn't fit.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I want her to drop the nukes on the decadent and foreverially boggified south in the name of natural korean beauty
          <3

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's the premature female-pattern baldness and probably the fact that he hoards all the food in the family, so the rest of them are malnourished. Also, that's just an unflattering angle, she looks kinda cute in other pictures but at the same time manages to also look even more unhinged then he is. It's her eyes, they're absolutely dead with nothing behind them.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It's her eyes, they're absolutely dead with nothing behind them.
            that's just how our autistic dommy mommy rolls and we love her all the more for it

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Call of Cthulhu RPG has an entire Cold War off shoot called Delta Green that explains that that after the USSR discovered ghouls during WW2 the DPRK got a few of them. The DPRK's leadership chose to become ghouls for immortality, they retire once they can't pass as human. The concentration camps are a both a food source and a way to make new ghouls.

          They have magic that can make them pass as a person that they have eaten and absorb their memories but they still need at least a bit of flesh to keep up the charade.

          https://www.delta-green.com/

          Well, you have to remember that of those 60.000+ barrels, you probably have somewhere around 6.000 that are actually usable, the rest of them are rusted and pitted so bad they'd shatter to bits if you'd try to fire anything through them.

          Source: Your ass.

          It's the premature female-pattern baldness and probably the fact that he hoards all the food in the family, so the rest of them are malnourished. Also, that's just an unflattering angle, she looks kinda cute in other pictures but at the same time manages to also look even more unhinged then he is. It's her eyes, they're absolutely dead with nothing behind them.

          Noticed that, they seem to have hair loss issues. I don't know why but if i was them i'd target a few extra nuclear missiles at Moscow and Beijing every time i saw a few extra strands of hair in my comb.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Source: Your ass.
            God revealed it to me in a dream, Best Koreaboo.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >This is a serious thread
              no its not
              >seems they have some sort of fixation on it
              YOU have a fixation on it. you are the only one who ever talks about this

              Russian shills are getting aggressive against the DPRK and Iran after the Ukraine allied with them to keep Russia out of Sudan. Keep it up, alienating the DPRK and Iran is a very good idea for Russia!

              I am required by the rules of being a Norktard to accept that answer as a statement of believed fact. You are wrong of course but i must accept that you believe it and that is good enough.

              Welcome to the war effort friend:

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Russian shills are getting aggressive against the DPRK and Iran after the Ukraine allied with them to keep Russia out of Sudan. Keep it up, alienating the DPRK and Iran is a very good idea for Russia!
                Wat

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A Russian backed mercenary group (RRF) is trying to overthrow the military government of Sudan. the Government of Sudan has significant arms factories and stockpiles, mostly provided by Iran and the DPRK. The current military leader of Sudan controls those factories/stockpiles and is friends with Ukraine, Iran and the DPRK.

                So Russia is trying to overthow a government that is a major source of income for the DPRK and Iran whose leader happens to be making alot of money selling (Iranian and Nork weapons) to Ukraine.

                It's pretty simple once you read about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Sudan_(2023%E2%80%93present)

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            based ghouls

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              In Delta Green the Norks have a limited but very practical understanding of the Cthulhu Mythos. They can manufacture ghouls, know about Deep Ones (and have a few in concentration camps/medical labs) but have very limited understanding of how magic works. The best source of information they have is a 1000 year old Nyarlathotep worshipping witch who is literally the screaming lady you see on their news broadcasts. She is shouting out subliminal spells and using their concentration camp victims to cast Elder signs on their monuments to protect them. They have a handful of nuclear warheads with the text of the spell 'summon Azathoth' inscribed on them.
              They know enough about the Mi-Go to kill them on sight and that the Dreamlands are real.

              >/tg/ says hello

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh and: They are at war with the Deep Ones, Mi-go, the Serpent Man who is in charge of China, Ghoul Stalin (sort of fighting in the dreamlands via a dream gate) and somehow captured a small Shoggoth at massive cost in lives. They aren't sure what the Shoggoth is but they can control it by keeping it in a tub of chemical weapons and radioactive waste, they are trying to cut off pieces to potentially use pieces of it as warheads.

                </tg/ again

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    61186092
    0.0025 per capita...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      0.0025 per 1 capita = 1 per 400 capita

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > per 1 capita
        I see, you're a moron trying to redefine a common expression just to not look so re·ta·rd·ed.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The mass proliferation of 14.5mm (especially on armored vehicles) probably arose from the understanding that in any conflict, North Korea is getting absolutely shitfricked by someone's airforce.
    23mm is kind of hard to put on top of a tank, so 14.5mm is the largest caliber that the Norks realistically have access to that can provide anti-aircraft deterrence.
    This obviously isn't going to cut it against any fixed-wing aircraft the US fields, which might be why we're seeing MANPADS grafted onto tanks in their military parades.
    The North Koreans likely also have issues mass producing complex munitions. 23mm is just going to be a waste if it isn't explosive, and getting it to be explosive adds a lot of complexity to the production.
    North Korea is also a country with basically zero domestic fuel production and a very sketchy ability to procure it abroad, so the probably want their guns to be able to be moved by non-mechanized crews; 14.5mm is nearing that weight limit.
    As for other shit where it would make more sense to have a larger autocannon like 23mm (such as IFVs) it probably just winds up being easier logistically to have everything fire 14.5mm.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >As for other shit where it would make more sense to have a larger autocannon like 23mm (such as IFVs) it probably just winds up being easier logistically to have everything fire 14.5mm.

      Also they absolutely insist that anything that isn't a tank or heavy artillery be amphibious so 14.5mm makes some sort of sense. So besides the excellent reasons you stated it's probably a logistics issue. If you already have a huge amount of something that works why not keep making it if it is more flexible than the alternative?

      I am not convinced that something like pic related isn't on the edge of being a light IFV, yes a Bradly or the like would wreak it but anything else doesn't like dual 14.5mm. It's too shooty to be a APC but not quite a IRV.

      In a Chunma-D vs GAVIN fight i'd chose the Chunma, even if it was a Aero-Gavin. The Chunma could fire at it with it's dual guns while it was landing and deplete their numbers while they landed.

      Sparks Army vs the modern DPRK would be hilarious. Sparks army would have just enough chance that they wouldn't realize how fricked they were until it was too late.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >23mm is kind of hard to put on top of a tank, so 14.5mm is the largest caliber that the Norks realistically have access to that can provide anti-aircraft deterrence.
      Redpill: 23x115mm is a necked up 14.5x114mm cartridge.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I thought this was a duffel bag shaped like a bullet and got excited. 🙁

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >This is a serious thread
    no its not
    >seems they have some sort of fixation on it
    YOU have a fixation on it. you are the only one who ever talks about this

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    14.5 goated simple as

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    14.5mm is the commie fuddy-five of fifty cal.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >You would think that 60,000+ barrels of 14.5mm would be enough
    Norks can never have enuff dakka or big shootas

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