what the fuck were they thinking?

>slower than wheeled competitors like the centauro, type 16, and stryker
>horrible gun depression
>is literally bigger than their own MBTs
>NO FRICKING THERMALS
IN THE FRICKING 2000s
WHAT WAS THE MOD THINKING??

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i poo on you

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    you dont need to be wise to buy things if you can pocket half the money

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Truly the Taras Shevchenko of our time

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >vdv
    there's your problem

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >WHAT WAS THE MOD THINKING??
    autistic obsession to mechanize all units does this to a men

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Competitors
    >Centauro
    kekd

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      the centauro is fricking amazing though
      LWS, thermals, amazing gun handling, and depression.
      don't know why the uparmored version with ERA exists, it does nothing to improve survivability while increasing weight, reducing maneuverability

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think you misunderstood my comment

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Centauro
        >amazing depression
        Centauro has Soviet tier gun angles

        >Its frontaly immune to steel core AP 12.7mm
        Based on the number of BMD hulls we've seen in Ukraine penned by 7.62 I don't believe that for a second.

        Oh I could believe that that's what the Russians SAY, but I do not believe it's factually correct.

        Side of the BMD-1/2 is protected vs 7.62x39 AP at 125-175m for the upper/lower hull. The front is protected vs 12.7mm AP at a similar range

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesn’t know
      ngmi

      the centauro is fricking amazing though
      LWS, thermals, amazing gun handling, and depression.
      don't know why the uparmored version with ERA exists, it does nothing to improve survivability while increasing weight, reducing maneuverability

      most war thunder post I’ve ever seen

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        what gave it away?
        the reference to gun handling?
        no mentions of crew comfort, logistics, or complexity?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          yes
          plus the reference to the ROMOR, which is quite an obscure variant, on top of referring to its ERA as dead weight

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            caught me red handed then.
            FRICK THE SPRUT IT'S SO FRICKING SHIT BUT AUTISM DEMANDS I KEEP A LIGHT TANK IN MY LINEUP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Which one are you playing? I’ve barely touched the first one but the second one with thermals is very fun. If I’m on my A game my matches will be just Sprug :DDD into Frogfoot. Centauro is still the cooler one IRL and in game but the Sprut is my favorite slavshit they’ve added in a while.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Any wester vehicle is probably more advanced than anything russia can produce, not even hating it's just true

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >full power 125mm tank gun
    >18 tons
    It's ok air transportable tank. Makes more sense than obiese MPF
    >lol 105mm gun
    >lol 38 tons

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      anon, what does the "P" in "MPF" stand for?
      what do you think those extra 20 tons are?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        the crew

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        And what armor protection MPF has? Against 30mm canon (ie about 120mm RHA?). So not stopping much actual threats. BTW T-64 in same weight and with 125 mm canon had 350mm/400mm RHA hull/turret

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It's ok air transportable tank
      >Tank
      >Aluminum BMD hull
      >Living in mortal fear of heavy machinery guns
      It's a tank destroyer/field gun. Trying to use it like even a light tank will end in tears.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Living in mortal fear of heavy machinery guns
        Its frontaly immune to steel core AP 12.7mm. 14.5mm can pen it at small ranges but NATO doesn't have 14.5mm.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Its frontaly immune to steel core AP 12.7mm
          Based on the number of BMD hulls we've seen in Ukraine penned by 7.62 I don't believe that for a second.

          Oh I could believe that that's what the Russians SAY, but I do not believe it's factually correct.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            They pushed too far ahead and got shrekt from the sides and rear by 7.62 AP.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's a stryker equivalent.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          If you mean The M1128. An yeah it's better than M1128 in air transportable support gun role.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    as for the thermals, russia can't make their own great thermals, they rely on commercial french thermals for all of their military.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can buy them pretty unmarked from alibaba but they’re all sold out. Wonder why. I’m imagining the Russians just bulk ordering them from some Chinese distribution center and it’s funny.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >WHAT WAS THE MOD THINKING??
    That's the neat part, they weren't.
    Had they given it any thought, they would've realized a *literal* tin-can based on doctrine from 50 years ago has no place on the modern battlefield. Just having a big gun and decent-to-good mobility isn't enough anymore. The most important bit is armor, so you don't get ganked by the first rpg-ger you come across. The rest come afterwards.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Part commonality with BMD-4
    >Air droppable 125mm gun
    >Amphibious
    Understand that despite Russian grand standing about NATO aggression, Russian doctrine, based on their activity over the past 3 decades, seems to have been built on the principle of waging COIN style wars.
    VDV is Russian equivalent to USMC in that it is a force that they can rapidly deploy to a conflict zone.
    For Russians a conflict zone would have been protests and insurrection in "their" sphere of influence, not expecting to fight a near pear opponent.
    The 125 would be more for bounding dug outs and emplacements than actual anti-tank ops.
    Should they need anything heavier, they would deploy their BTG+irregular formations.

    >Airforce, Navy and Rocket forces destroy key military installations
    >Specnaz diversants begin sabotage and organizing Pro-Russians into militias
    >VDV is rushed into lock down critical chokepoints and strategic assets
    >BTGs link up with said local militias and overrun any resistance
    >Rosguardia secures the rear and captures key enemy personnel
    That seems to the "winning" formula they had devised after their "successes" in Georgia, Crimea and Donbass, as well as the little excursion to Kazakhstan they had months before the invasion into Ukraine.

    The question as to why they never got properly accepted into service(Not one has been seen in Ukraine or anywhere near it) remains open,
    maybe the military didn't want it, maybe they didn't have the money.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am mystified by how they somehow made a light tank that is inferior to the Shin’heung in every imaginable way besides having a bigger gun which is pretty damn pointless since under no circumstances should either be fighting a real tank.

    It can't even float if the pump system is working, it needs to constantly pump out the lower chassis or it sinks.

    They also are wasting alot of space and weight by insisting on a autoloader.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    than wheeled competitors like the centauro, type 16, and stryker

    These tracks are way better in snow or muddy ground. Wheeled vehicles are road or hard firm ground only.

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