>slower than wheeled competitors like the centauro, type 16, and stryker
>horrible gun depression
>is literally bigger than their own MBTs
>NO FUCKING THERMALS
IN THE FUCKING 2000s
WHAT WAS THE MOD THINKING??
what the fuck were they thinking?
>slower than wheeled competitors like the centauro, type 16, and stryker
>horrible gun depression
>is literally bigger than their own MBTs
>NO FUCKING THERMALS
IN THE FUCKING 2000s
WHAT WAS THE MOD THINKING??
i poo on you
you dont need to be wise to buy things if you can pocket half the money
Truly the Taras Shevchenko of our time
>vdv
there's your problem
>WHAT WAS THE MOD THINKING??
autistic obsession to mechanize all units does this to a men
>Competitors
>Centauro
kekd
the centauro is fucking amazing though
LWS, thermals, amazing gun handling, and depression.
don't know why the uparmored version with ERA exists, it does nothing to improve survivability while increasing weight, reducing maneuverability
I think you misunderstood my comment
>Centauro
>amazing depression
Centauro has Soviet tier gun angles
Side of the BMD-1/2 is protected vs 7.62x39 AP at 125-175m for the upper/lower hull. The front is protected vs 12.7mm AP at a similar range
>he doesn’t know
ngmi
most war thunder post I’ve ever seen
what gave it away?
the reference to gun handling?
no mentions of crew comfort, logistics, or complexity?
yes
plus the reference to the ROMOR, which is quite an obscure variant, on top of referring to its ERA as dead weight
caught me red handed then.
FUCK THE SPRUT IT'S SO FUCKING SHIT BUT AUTISM DEMANDS I KEEP A LIGHT TANK IN MY LINEUP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Which one are you playing? I’ve barely touched the first one but the second one with thermals is very fun. If I’m on my A game my matches will be just Sprug :DDD into Frogfoot. Centauro is still the cooler one IRL and in game but the Sprut is my favorite slavshit they’ve added in a while.
Any wester vehicle is probably more advanced than anything russia can produce, not even hating it's just true
>full power 125mm tank gun
>18 tons
It's ok air transportable tank. Makes more sense than obiese MPF
>lol 105mm gun
>lol 38 tons
anon, what does the "P" in "MPF" stand for?
what do you think those extra 20 tons are?
the crew
And what armor protection MPF has? Against 30mm canon (ie about 120mm RHA?). So not stopping much actual threats. BTW T-64 in same weight and with 125 mm canon had 350mm/400mm RHA hull/turret
>It's ok air transportable tank
>Tank
>Aluminum BMD hull
>Living in mortal fear of heavy machinery guns
It's a tank destroyer/field gun. Trying to use it like even a light tank will end in tears.
>Living in mortal fear of heavy machinery guns
Its frontaly immune to steel core AP 12.7mm. 14.5mm can pen it at small ranges but NATO doesn't have 14.5mm.
>Its frontaly immune to steel core AP 12.7mm
Based on the number of BMD hulls we've seen in Ukraine penned by 7.62 I don't believe that for a second.
Oh I could believe that that's what the Russians SAY, but I do not believe it's factually correct.
They pushed too far ahead and got shrekt from the sides and rear by 7.62 AP.
it's a stryker equivalent.
If you mean The M1128. An yeah it's better than M1128 in air transportable support gun role.
as for the thermals, russia can't make their own great thermals, they rely on commercial french thermals for all of their military.
You can buy them pretty unmarked from alibaba but they’re all sold out. Wonder why. I’m imagining the Russians just bulk ordering them from some Chinese distribution center and it’s funny.
>WHAT WAS THE MOD THINKING??
That's the neat part, they weren't.
Had they given it any thought, they would've realized a *literal* tin-can based on doctrine from 50 years ago has no place on the modern battlefield. Just having a big gun and decent-to-good mobility isn't enough anymore. The most important bit is armor, so you don't get ganked by the first rpg-ger you come across. The rest come afterwards.
>Part commonality with BMD-4
>Air droppable 125mm gun
>Amphibious
Understand that despite Russian grand standing about NATO aggression, Russian doctrine, based on their activity over the past 3 decades, seems to have been built on the principle of waging COIN style wars.
VDV is Russian equivalent to USMC in that it is a force that they can rapidly deploy to a conflict zone.
For Russians a conflict zone would have been protests and insurrection in "their" sphere of influence, not expecting to fight a near pear opponent.
The 125 would be more for bounding dug outs and emplacements than actual anti-tank ops.
Should they need anything heavier, they would deploy their BTG+irregular formations.
>Airforce, Navy and Rocket forces destroy key military installations
>Specnaz diversants begin sabotage and organizing Pro-Russians into militias
>VDV is rushed into lock down critical chokepoints and strategic assets
>BTGs link up with said local militias and overrun any resistance
>Rosguardia secures the rear and captures key enemy personnel
That seems to the "winning" formula they had devised after their "successes" in Georgia, Crimea and Donbass, as well as the little excursion to Kazakhstan they had months before the invasion into Ukraine.
The question as to why they never got properly accepted into service(Not one has been seen in Ukraine or anywhere near it) remains open,
maybe the military didn't want it, maybe they didn't have the money.
I am mystified by how they somehow made a light tank that is inferior to the Shin’heung in every imaginable way besides having a bigger gun which is pretty damn pointless since under no circumstances should either be fighting a real tank.
It can't even float if the pump system is working, it needs to constantly pump out the lower chassis or it sinks.
They also are wasting alot of space and weight by insisting on a autoloader.
than wheeled competitors like the centauro, type 16, and stryker
These tracks are way better in snow or muddy ground. Wheeled vehicles are road or hard firm ground only.