What the frick is the point of s400? Is it capable of anything at all.

What the frick is the point of s400? Is it capable of anything at all. I constantly see spam about how great Russian air defence is, but I have seen no evidence whatsoever to support this. Are Russian missiles even capable of any kind of tracking anything, or is it a complete fabrication? Why would nations like Turkey buy this shit? Did they do no testing and take the Russians completely at their word?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's the point of this moronic thread?
    Why isn't Patriot shooting down all those missiles an drones? Why didn't Patriot protect the power plants?
    Now shut up moron with your S400 spam.
    > I constantly see spam about how great Russian air defence is
    No you don't. You are just spamming how bad S400 is.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Pajeet already here.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      patriot did shoot down all those missiles. Your argument is moronic because russia used to use 100s of missiles at a time. Even with 90% down rate, that still leaves 10 missiles or more to get through. S400 on the other hand would be fricking lucky to get 50% down rate lol

      Imagine ukraine was launching 100 cruise missiles a day, russia would collapse in a week.

      PS: see latest planet blowup in russia lel

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Why didn't Patriot protect the power plants
      Because there's only a handful of them?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Soviet and Russian shit is only good against other Soviet and Russian shit. Also, according to chinks S400 is just a freshly painted variant of S300.

      >Why isn't Patriot shooting down all those missiles an drones? Why didn't Patriot protect the power plants?
      Because there's a very limited amount of them in Ukraine, just like the amount of supplied interceptors. Cannot make the same excuse for S400.
      >You are just spamming how bad S400 is.
      Nothing wrong with that on a weapon board. Haven't seen any dedicated S400 le bad threads either.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Nothing wrong with that on a weapon board.
        Unless you criticize Ukraine or Western equipment. Then it's just nonstop cope from shills.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The difference is that western weapons actually work

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Unless you criticize Ukraine or Western equipment.
          Only when it's clear BS like a few pixels exploding in a low res video being called a destroyed patriot.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You mean like this video?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Huh? You can clearly see the destroyed aircraft

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              why are you so upset? i figured you guys would've made peace with the fact that russian hardware sucks a year into the war, you're still in denial about it now?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >pajeets dont understand difference between picture and video
              I gotta say, the United Kingdom failed you, even as a serf. I would go to the National History Museum and demand that your cultural items are returned, with interest

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Why didn't Patriot protect the power plants?
      No missiles unironically.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      LEGENDARY seethe

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Meh, good enough to shoot down your memesonics, pidorashka.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what patriot, 3 batteries for an entire country? russia has like 200 S-300s and they often can't even protect the battery itself not to mention the targets

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        2. Third is on the way from Germany

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Didn't Russia release a couple of vids of them blowing up at least two patriots?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I saw one fire unit being hit, that's half of a battery

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >You

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, you are correct but shill brigade is out en masse

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >You are just spamming how bad S400 is.
      Well, it is VERY bad indeed.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This, Russia has a hundred of these systems and Ukraine nailed less than 10 as far as we know 2 years into the war, why would anyone give a shit? And no, it doesn't tell us crap about the effectiveness of the S-400s. This is just another spam thread filled with shills patting each other on the back, it's worth about as much as the zigger Leo2 threads.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        from what I can find, they only ever made 98 systems. In total. Presumably a good number of those are still in Russia. So if they've lost about 10, that's a pretty bad ratio for operation in theatre

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >lose 10% of systems
        >not a bad thing
        >while needing to defend a country the size of Russia
        lmao, based moron

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If Russia has so many of these systems then why was it such an ordeal for them to replace the single unit in Crimea when it got blown up last year?

        The Ukies sent half of what was left of the Black Sea Fleet under in the months it took to get a new one and they're already blowing up aircraft on the landing strip now that this one is dead.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They hated him because he told the truth

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yeah

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      UMM PATRIOT SISTERS, OUR RESPONSE?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        they ran out of missiles.
        now they have more, so the PATRIOTs will work again, as God and Werner von Braun intended

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          don't forget fritz lang

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, pic related is a better asset than literally anything Russia has left in its arsenal excluding nukes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's pretty low considering she has negative value.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >be Putin
        >depend on some literal qanon fangirl trolling Biden to make your now thurdie tier army to punch through Ack-viika
        Grim.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > lust-provoking image

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They REALLY don't like it when their propaganda weapon gets shit on, guys...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Is it capable of anything at all
      Graft.

      What air defense doing?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why would nations like Turkey buy this shit?
    To get out of the F35 vassal contract.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >to get out of the vassal contract
      No, it was them being petty over patriots lol. Turks are regretting the decision now.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong.
        There are two main reasons why they've bailed out by sabotaging themselves:
        -Maintenance and upkeep of the F-35 is way too expensive for them
        -They can't rely on the US for permissions, parts and replacement

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You know they could just choose not to buy F-35

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          And yet the turks are still begging for the contract. They could have chosen to not buy the f-35 in the first place, you know? This sounds like cope from a Turkish nationalist.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What the frick is the point of s400?
    - increase number by a 100 from S300;
    - low-key cosplay that the number in the model name is range of the system;
    - hurr-durr better than Patriot;

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they had to change the model number if they wanted thirdies to keep buying it.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The 400 just off what technical specs its got in terms of the radar and missiles, should be a good system against 4th gen fighters and you wouldn't discount its presence somewhere.
    I haven't had a chance to finger-frick any of this equipment, but I'm assuming the command unit has some kind of decent enough interface that it's got good networking capability between the AWACS, OTH and long range radars around it and then the actual attack radar for prosecutions.
    >However
    These are not simple systems and you need people that are really fricking smart and capable of making the best choices from the data available to make those prosecutions.
    >Problem
    These are operated by fricking morons, barely above wienersucking conscripts, the lowest of the low dregs of society and while it sounds mean. I do have a dog that is probably smarter than the average Indian or Russian but I'm still not confident she'd run an S400 very well and that's the reality of this kind of high-end gear. You need some really crazy good operators and make sure they're given the authority to work the gear. And that's just not going to happen under quasi-totalitarian and degenerate 3rd world shitholes because they just don't do that kind of thing.

    In terms of what they can detect
    Well, yeah... you might be able to detect an F35 or a Scalp/Stormshadow, but that's just part of the battle. You've still got to lock onto the c**t with the attack radar, make sure the missile knows what its supposed to go beat up and be quick on the go buttons once you finally can get authority to prosecute. That's the thing, they don't seem to be able to prosecute, they know its coming but fall on their faces trying to carry out that interdiction.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The 400 just off what technical specs its got in terms of the radar and missiles, should be a good system against 4th gen fighters and you wouldn't discount its presence somewhere.
      >I haven't had a chance to finger-frick any of this equipment, but I'm assuming the command unit has some kind of decent enough interface that it's got good networking capability between the AWACS, OTH and long range radars around it and then the actual attack radar for
      Which missiles do they actually deploy with their S-400s? The pictures usually show the large quad packed missiles per launcher which likely indicates 48N6DM missiles. But these are basically modernized S-300 missiles roughly similar to patriot pac-2. On paper the S-400 can use much newer smaller missiles with capabilities closer to a pac-3 but I don't recall ever seeing them deployed with active S-400s. Presumably supplies of the actual newer missiles able to deal with ballistic threats are not around. Even if the older 48N6DM is hitting ATACMS, with 4 per launcher they can be saturated quickly.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A likely contributor is Russians have never bothered to properly test and validate their shit. Complex systems never work as planned the first time. Once you build the prototype you have to spend a lot of time, every and money testing and developing it until it does what you want. As time goes on and systems get more complex this only increases. Take Patriot for example, it went through plenty of tests and it still fricked up the first time it was used in combat. 30 years later, and multiple revisions, its now able to shoot down anything the Russians throw at it without breaking a sweat. Aegis and the standard missiles are the same way. Aegis evolved from Typhon which started in the late 50's, got canceled in the 60's because a computer controlled IADs with a phased array radar on a ship just wasn't possible yet. Aegis came about in the 70's and we're on I think version (baseline) 10 now? How many live fire tests against cruise missiles and SRBMs do you think the Russians had for S-400? You can find a bunch of live fire test videos for Aegis on youtube.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I want to know why they would park a real jet next to a painted on the ground decoy. It seems like that’s defeating the purpose

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What the frick is the point of s400?
    it cucks roaches out of having decent planes

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What the frick is the point of s400?
    Wasn't it Russia knew they couldn't compete with the West and had tons of land to cover so they went with like 1 billion tanks, navy and anti-air?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Literally no system can intercept ballistic missiles

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      AEGIS/SPY/SM-3 & 6 has intercepted literally dozens of ballistic missiles, on camera, in the last month or so. What the frick are you talking about.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Literally no system can intercept ballistic missiles
      Russia bragged S-400 can. Surprisingly (or not) this was a lie.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Literally no RUSSIAN systems can intercept ballistic missiles

      fixed that for you.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If only that wasn't an american missile, we might've believed you, homosexual, you know I can just look up google images, right?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          moron

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, I do know you CAN use google images, reverse search too. I just know you didn't because it won't say what you want so I went ahead and did it for you. Cope and seethe, dipshit

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Pic rel
            >inb4 phoneposting
            I don't give a shit.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Are these results useful?
              Kek and yes, but not for the vatnik.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >thats an american Khinzal

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Literally no system can intercept ballistic missiles
      lmao look at the cargo cult tribesman over here. the US and parts of the EU have had a 99.99% intercept capability vs wave-attack ICBMs since the late 1970s.
      did you know there aren't any magic spells in your phone and it actually works with little wires and electricity as well? take a few minutes if you need them, it's a lot to take in

      https://i.imgur.com/K0cm158.jpeg

      >>What the frick is point of Patriot/Iron dome/US/Jordanian/Israeli aircraft interception rate if they can't even stop some third world Islamic nation from hitting your airports?

      Saturation attacks are effective.
      Saturation attacks with good quality western weapons are even more effective.
      Which does not mean that the S400 is useless. When Ukraine scores 2 ~ 5 impacts on a refinery they usually launch many dozens of drones on paths that try to avoid anti air systems as much as reasonable.

      Without air defense Russia would have no functional airports pretty much for 500km+ from the front and baryaktars would be smoking the Russians at every point of the front like back in the day.

      So the air defense does work to some degree what I really would like to know is what is the successful interception rate or Russian air defense.

      40%? 70%? No clue what is the current interception rate if anyone has some data on this I would very much appreciate it.

      >When Ukraine scores 2 ~ 5 impacts on a refinery they usually launch many dozens of drones on paths
      no, they launch them one at a time for large targets, since Russia AA is worthless at this point. they launch multiples for frontline kills, as they can use the cheapest drone available and do area denial

      >What the frick is the point of s400?
      To get new orders for the S-500

      >To get new orders
      the S-400 is a reskinned S-300, literally the same technology from 1992, just updated with a new name.
      >the S-500
      1 unit out of 10 total promised serials confirmed as active, in a non-combat rear echelon battalion kek

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ATACMS isn't a ballistic missile

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >ATACMS isn't a ballistic missile

        But... it is, though?
        What did you think it was, a cruise missile?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

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          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >1989
            >ATACMS is older than Russian state

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So the Iskander isn't a ballistic missile either, huh?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Literally no system can intercept ballistic missiles
      Tell me another one.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What the frick is the point of s400?
    To get new orders for the S-500

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I constantly see spam about how great Russian air defense is, but I have seen no evidence whatsoever to support this.
    I mean... you're not going to see montage videos of the S400 (or any SAM launcher really) slapping dozens of targets out of the sky. Only when it gets blown up by something and they show the after math report.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do you know how much money Shoigu made off of the S-400? Most of it. It was great for him.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What's even dumber is that Shoigoo will probably make even more money in the position he was given, it truly seems like monke didn't care about whatever graft he did

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Putin gets a cut of all the crimes going on in his government. How hard is it for you all to understand its a genuine Mafia.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's possible the S400 system is good enough but the task asked of it is impossible.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >>What the frick is point of Patriot/Iron dome/US/Jordanian/Israeli aircraft interception rate if they can't even stop some third world Islamic nation from hitting your airports?

    Saturation attacks are effective.
    Saturation attacks with good quality western weapons are even more effective.
    Which does not mean that the S400 is useless. When Ukraine scores 2 ~ 5 impacts on a refinery they usually launch many dozens of drones on paths that try to avoid anti air systems as much as reasonable.

    Without air defense Russia would have no functional airports pretty much for 500km+ from the front and baryaktars would be smoking the Russians at every point of the front like back in the day.

    So the air defense does work to some degree what I really would like to know is what is the successful interception rate or Russian air defense.

    40%? 70%? No clue what is the current interception rate if anyone has some data on this I would very much appreciate it.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's even the point of the S-500?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Embezzlement, mostly.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Development and production payed and continues to pay for yachts and gold plated toilet seats.
    It's a massive success.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Woody being kicked upstairs to the Security Council secretary isn’t going to make Russian AD performance better I hope you people understand that. Woody’s main strength is his political power of being personal close friends with Putin, so he could wrangle the large Russian corrupt bureaucracy. The new guy may be more talented as a manager but he won’t be able to deal with the bureaucracy ie they’ll push back on his orders and reforms. Probably constantly pushing through the corruption, apathy / laziness of the military was draining Woody so he asked Putin to get him out.

    No large organization of people likes change or leadership and will strongly tend towards the lowest common denominator. That’s why private ownership of business is the only way to make them succeed — a strong leader has the total power of having people fired. In the Russian sense this is much more critical problem.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The missiles are fine. They can hit 4th gen planes at hundreds of km. The problem is the ergonomics and radar. The command centers maximize the downsides of human fallibility with uninformative displays and mindnumbing, simplistic-but-complicated processes; while the radars can't see stealth planes until it's virtually atop the equipment.

    It's a problem most radars share. A generic large ground radar near the Xband, whether its Russian or Western or Chinese, can spot a 4.5 gen fighter at hundreds of km and a passenger plane or AWACS at 600km or more.
    But it can't see a F35 or F22 beyond about 25km.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What the frick is the point of s400?
    the point is, after expending almost half of their atacms stock, ukrainians have nothing to show for it but one wrecked s-400 and two destroyed migs. the point is, no system is invincible and even the best one can be overwhelmed. in this particular instance, through ludicrous waste of very finite assets, for the sake of very limited gain.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >but one wrecked s-400 and two destroyed migs
      That's are the russian-optimistic losses from only 1 target striked.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >xaxaxa ukropiggers wasting their precious western munitions on useless SAM systems and obsolete combat aircraft again *~~*~~*~~*~~

      I really can't tell if this is bait at this point.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >HUEHUE 9 GORILLION ATACMS LOST
      Ukraine has a limited number of launchers and the airfield was destroyed in a single attack. The numbers don't work out, chief

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >ukrainians have nothing to show for it but one wrecked s-400
      >one wrecked s-400
      >wrecked s-400
      lol this copeadmission is amazing

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This appears to be an s-300 missile (Ukranian) hitting a russian ka-52 helicopter from Dec 2022.

    I just wanted to post it because it's both spectacular and (if it is an s-300) a perfect example of how these systems can be effective and devastating to aircraft. If it's not an s-300 than please hold me in the contempt I deserve. Still amazing footage tho'.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      lmao aren't these supposed to have ejection seats?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Would you trust a Russian made and maintained ejection seat?

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    S400 is very capable, it is capable of missing its target reliably at a range and altitude where patriot would also miss.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

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