What the frick? How do you get a 155 to shoot 100km? GMLRS can't even do that

What the frick? How do you get a 155 to shoot 100km? GMLRS can't even do that

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    kraut ramjet magic

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus, how much does this thing cost? Can it go hypersonic?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        About Drei Mark Fuffzig

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Post is of being underrated.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          this shouldn't have tickled me as much as it did.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Du verdammtes Monster!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          danke bernd

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Kärlos!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Mein nëgrö ... lül'd out loud

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Drei Mark Fuffzig
            WTF is this?

            I get that it's three fiddy in German but it seems to be an actual meme too, there are t-shirts with it.
            Google only gives me pages on German counting and stuff though so I have no idea of the original meme.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              my guess is it's from southpark. chef's dad always says "drei fuffzig" but i guess it evolved a bit throughout the years. also it generally sounds funny when you say it like that

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >my guess is it's from southpark. chef's dad always says "drei fuffzig"
                I guess that'll be it then.
                I stopped watching before Chef's dad was a character.
                Seems like it's in the German dub.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Meine Seiten

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it's potentially super cheap

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >solid fuel
          >ramjet
          How?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're a tragic case of boxed-in thinking.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I had to look it up, too.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_Fuel_Ducted_Ramjet
            This is about a poo development project, but the key takeaways might be relevant:
            >No oxidizer required, provided by the ramjet
            >Rocket booster exhaust further compresses the air for the ramjet

            Nammo has been working on this shell for a while.
            https://www.nammo.com/story/nammo-prepares-to-integrate-solid-fuel-ramjets-into-artillery-and-missile-concepts/

            Here's the video at the bottom of the page:

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_Fuel_Ducted_Ramjet
              >This is about a poo development project, but the key takeaways might be relevant:

              aka ramjeet

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Frick you.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >aka ramjeet

                So Anon has named it, so it shall ever be.

                I'm too lazy to make an AI pic of that thing leaving a shit exhaust but I trust someone here will rise to the occasion.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Good find anon

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Solid fuel that is rich in fuel and low in oxidizer, it's gaseous combustion products are combustible and they are used as fuel for ramjet that supplies compressed air into combustion chamber.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Not with the manufacturing tolerances needed for ramjets

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This seems just as expensive as Excalibur. If you're gonna spend $100k per shell, why not just use missiles instead?

            There is no need for it to be guided for use against area targets, a unguided version could be relatively cheap.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Wonder if North Korea could clone it from the video.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Wonder if North Korea could clone it from the video.
                Did you notice the precise details on the rocket motor in the video?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Duh bruh but a man can dream of upgraded Koksans

                To be fair they worked well enough in the Iran/Iraq war that to this day Iraq is still trying to copy them. The US not only got one of the originals we got to actually shoot a few of the newer versions via the UAE.

                The ER shells really do go 90km, the CEP is 50-75[ meters (on a flat desert) and it mostly works as advertised. However:

                The recoil makes it difficult to use on loose soil for more than a few shots, basically it digs a hole under it. It takes 15-20 seconds for it to stop moving after it fires. It is insanely loud and dangerous to be near when it fires even by heavy artillery standards. At normal ranges/charges the barrel wear is equal to most big guns, at max range it has about 500 shots. A decent crew can do a shot a minute for 4-5 minutes.

                The quality of construction, manufacturing and design is very good, however the US had very serious concerns over how much the design was pushing the tolerances not to mention crew safety.

                For the record Iranian and DPRK expats who actually used them or observed them have never mentioned one blowing up.

                I have personally met someone who saw one and the aftermath, he was a artillery LT for Iran. who showed me a picture of a entrenched Iraqi T-55 that got sniped by a Koksan using what he described as a bunker busting capped HESH shell . It was more or less a crater, he showed me a picture of the T-55's breech block and said it was 200 meters away.

                Besides proving it can be done is half of any project. Dont forget they more or less figured out how to launch SLBMs on there own.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Besides proving it can be done is half of any project. Dont forget they more or less figured out how to launch SLBMs on there own
                They didn't reverse engineer it from a video, it took decades of development.

                The question was, would this video aid cloning the technology?
                The answer is no, that it exists aids the effort but there's nothing in that video that will make a difference because the whole rocket motor is an unknown in it.
                Any Nork rocket scientist who's told to make a ramjet shell could reproduce what's in the video in a few minutes by sketching the obvious solutions in a notebook. Making it work would take years of development and resources.
                If anything in the video were inaccurate, it wouldn't even make a difference because it's absent of details.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Wonder if North Korea could clone it from the video.

                If it used in Ukraine one will inevitably end up in Russian hands then to Pyongyang, making the engine itself is just a matter of fine tuning the airflow through the shell and having shock resistant solid fuel. Yes they could copy it just from pictures eventually, the guidance not so much but that is something they already can do.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >one will inevitably end up in Russian hands
                That's true of every weapon and one of many reasons why Ukraine isn't flying F35s for example.
                Tech transfer to the enemy is inevitable in every conflict, it does work both ways though.

                The rocket motor is an interesting case though, the fuel is going to be burnt by the time it reaches the enemy, it would take something weird like the shell going off-course during flight and falling into a body of water with half its propellent unburnt for anything like an intact engine to be captured.
                I feel like just making the engine somewhat flammable would ensure its going to be destroyed in the boost phase of flight rather than being captured intact.

                They're not reverse engineering it from the video though, at best it's inspiration for their own de novo project.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You can tell just by looking at it how it works and they already have shock resistant solid fuel, the guidance is the issue and there is zero chance they aren't already working on guided 170mm shells.

                A strong argument could be made that since they know it works it would be much easier for them; consider that a huge part of the difficulty in making this is making it work with a half dozen different NATO autoloading while they just have to make it work with a single hand loaded system.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You can tell just by looking at it how it works and they already have shock resistant solid fuel
                That wasn't the question.
                The question was:

                Wonder if North Korea could clone it from the video.

                >if North Korea could clone it from the video
                The answer remains no.
                If they can clone it, it's not because of the video.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They wouldn't 'clone' it, they would adapt what is a relatively simple and proven principle.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >They wouldn't 'clone' it
                So the answer remains "no".

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Wow, you sure won the duck out of that on a

                pedantic technicality, 3 uptoots frienderino!

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >no need for it to be guided for use against area targets
              At 150km range, you absolutely need it to be guided to have any hope of hitting something more precise than a grid square.

              Russia would certainly lob shells like this into a city but everyone else prefers their shells to do something more than provoke international outrage.

              When anyone else lobs a shell, they at least blow up a military target along with the civilians, or at least be aiming at a military target with some chance of hitting it. Or think it's a military target and hit it deliberately before it turns out to be a baby formula factory or something.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah bro, only few companies on the planet are capable of manufacturing materials needed for this but I am sure they will let you have it for 2 quid.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Soveits produced solid fuel ramjet missiles 60 years ago
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K12_Kub

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Problem wont be cost but payload. Large part of the shell is taken up by fuel and engine significantly reducing boom.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Germans.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        mobiks at 150km off from ukie arty
        > it's fine, 150 is the propaganda numbers. comrade

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >ends up doing 200km

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus, how much does this thing cost? Can it go hypersonic?

      https://i.imgur.com/ES135Jx.png

      What the frick? How do you get a 155 to shoot 100km? GMLRS can't even do that

      https://i.imgur.com/E9CLq8N.jpeg

      they are aiming for an effective range of 150+ km sweet baby jesus

      blurring the line between artillery and missiles. rocket artillery I'll allow, but if it can fly under its own power after leaving the barrel it's on thin ice.

      Well i guess we know what *someones* priority espionage target is.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        those starving c**ts can't even make regular shell right

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        chiggers trying to stealing shit has been a huge problem for decades here.I think they recently found a spy among the afd but I dont really bother with the news these days.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Roughly 50% of all fired North Korean originating shells blow up midflight
        Yeah

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/E9CLq8N.jpeg

      they are aiming for an effective range of 150+ km sweet baby jesus

      https://i.imgur.com/pPuAixy.jpeg

      Germans.

      https://i.imgur.com/11sbRjN.jpeg

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      Well i guess we know what *someones* priority espionage target is.

      NAMMO is Norwegian, get your facts right.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >arty shell cruising at 30 km
        what the frick

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Germans have some history with this shit. Paris gun did 40+ km.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Boeing Nammo shit is unrelated to the Rheinmetall Denel one, get your facts right.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The EU is one nation under Brussels so it doesn't matter. Only TZD matters and heartwarming unity against the eternal enemy of my precious /k/

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Norway isn't part of the EU, you dildo.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              EEA is close enough

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        NEXTERs ERFB reaches 42km and RA 60km, this isn't impressive.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        NEXTERs ERFB reaches 42km and RA 60km, this isn't impressive.

        Actual proven range still doesn't beat a Koksan at maximum charge although it might have a little less barrel wear and be "slightly" safer in sustained fire.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          As if I am going to believe North Korea on its own weapon systems.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The UAE let the US fire a few ER shells, 90km.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              In koksans?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            To be fair they worked well enough in the Iran/Iraq war that to this day Iraq is still trying to copy them. The US not only got one of the originals we got to actually shoot a few of the newer versions via the UAE.

            The ER shells really do go 90km, the CEP is 50-75[ meters (on a flat desert) and it mostly works as advertised. However:

            The recoil makes it difficult to use on loose soil for more than a few shots, basically it digs a hole under it. It takes 15-20 seconds for it to stop moving after it fires. It is insanely loud and dangerous to be near when it fires even by heavy artillery standards. At normal ranges/charges the barrel wear is equal to most big guns, at max range it has about 500 shots. A decent crew can do a shot a minute for 4-5 minutes.

            The quality of construction, manufacturing and design is very good, however the US had very serious concerns over how much the design was pushing the tolerances not to mention crew safety.

            For the record Iranian and DPRK expats who actually used them or observed them have never mentioned one blowing up.

            I have personally met someone who saw one and the aftermath, he was a artillery LT for Iran. who showed me a picture of a entrenched Iraqi T-55 that got sniped by a Koksan using what he described as a bunker busting capped HESH shell . It was more or less a crater, he showed me a picture of the T-55's breech block and said it was 200 meters away.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >As if I am going to believe North Korea on its own weapon systems.
            You probably should.
            Maybe not the wunderwaffen of course but the workhorse stuff like artillery, you probably should.
            BESTKOREA has a thriving MIC which sells to thirdies all over the place and is considered superior to other former eastern-bloc nations. They don't have high technology but they're pretty good at the basics.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I'm still mystified at how they somehow took a RPK, cross bred it with a Bren gun and added a belt feed.

              That shit is straight up witchcraft created by the hand of a pagan God who should have been dead 5000 years ago but due to a act of fate/Q somehow is still alive and being fed by the souls of everyone who died building the Ryugyong Hotel.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm still mystified at how they somehow took a RPK, cross bred it with a Bren gun and added a belt feed.
                Most questions about Nork equipment is going to be answered by describing its purpose.

                Nork weapons are either deterrence/threat against the south, to discourage developed nations from curb-stomping them, or to keep their populace in line.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm still mystified at how they somehow took a RPK, cross bred it with a Bren gun and added a belt feed.
                Most questions about Nork equipment is going to be answered by describing its purpose.

                Nork weapons are either deterrence/threat against the south, to discourage developed nations from curb-stomping them, or to keep their populace in line.

                If you stare at the Type 73 long enough it starts to make sense, even how the sling mounts seem to be on the wrong side.

                That just makes it worse, once you realize that it is logical you suddenly understand that they might as well be aliens.

                >Nork weapons are either deterrence/threat against the south, to discourage developed nations from curb-stomping them, or to keep their populace in line.

                I know that, they are the human equivalent of a porcupine hiding a wasp's nest on a snapping turtles back.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Kaiser Wilhelm has the longest.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          those are trash

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >little less barrel wear and be "slightly" safer in sustained fire.
          kys euphemistic imbecile

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Wow, paid shills really don't understand jokes do they? Obvious ESL.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          100km range with a 10km CEP

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Is the majority of the target cities civilian population within that CEP and do they have gas masks sized for children?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >s the majority of the target cities civilian population within that CEP
              Probably not, Seoul sprawls so much it's hard to say where it ends and other cities begin. It's basically urban to either coast.

              > and do they have gas masks sized for children?
              They have bunkers for everyone so I guess so, yes.
              Now that I think of it, you just answered a question I had ever since I visited South Korea which is why they have such large underground malls running underneath major highways.
              The rent from the shops is probably paying for maintenance of the bomb shelter which the whole thing basically is and keeping it high traffic means everything is maintained and works when its needed.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There's even a shelter locator app:

                https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20230531000684

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >There's even a shelter locator app:
                You use apps to buy bus tickets in Korea so that doesn't surprise me at all.

                I needed a bus ticket to the airport and the hotel concierge pulled out his phone to reserve me a seat because you can't buy tickets on the bus and there won't even be seats left.
                When I went to the bus stop in the morning, there was a line of workers waiting in neat single file and boarding a shuttle bus to their work campus like soldiers.

                I saw some Chinese passengers who didn't know how stuff worked pleading with the bus driver and I don't think those folk would have made their flight because the bus seats were fully booked, not just in my bus but all morning. There's no standing permitted, everyone has to be seated in these very comfortable reclining seats.
                They needed to take trains to get to the airport but didn't know it.
                Worst Korea is a bit unforgiving to the uninformed but their inter-city buses are the best I've ever taken.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >dream of what an artillery-size gyrojet would look like
      >the germans beat me to it again
      I should just immigrate, I'm part German

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Are you American or some German rape-baby in Europe?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Not him, but YOU sound american. From Romania, former bohemia and russia germans have been called in by the local nobles to build cities and bring trades and crfatmanship. Why do you think there were so many everywhere? Prague for example was built as a bigger city by germans that were called in and was actually more german than czech for a long time. HRE and so on helped.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I've never heard Europeans do the muh heritage thing like Americans, especially since you Europeans seem to hate the frick out of that if its not the country you reside in.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah it's super rare among euros.
              Some of if might be the late nation forming combined with the lower relevance of immigration. No one thinks of the Longobards, Vandals and Franks for example which ruled Iberia, Italy and France respectively and considers himself german.
              The amount of nations with different languages in close proximity probably led to a stronger pressure to assimilate too.
              And of course the amount of expulsions and wars.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >I've never heard Europeans do the muh heritage thing like Americans
              Did you ever hear of like, the Nazis reasons for starting WWII? Or Alscae-Lorraine?
              The Ulster Scots? The dispute over Transylvania?

              Euros act like it doesn't matter when they fought over it for so long.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Euros do it, but it works very different here.
              Essentially it's just doing a racism. You put the heritage on someone else. Basically just call someone a gypsy or you imply that they're a gypsy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Snowmonkeys didn't build shit.
            All of that happened despite of you and Prague was built on a millenia of slavery and slave trade.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Scandi-German American with a MechE degree
          It's inevitable, really

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      God damn.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/ES135Jx.png

      What the frick? How do you get a 155 to shoot 100km? GMLRS can't even do that

      https://i.imgur.com/E9CLq8N.jpeg

      they are aiming for an effective range of 150+ km sweet baby jesus

      >Krauts fielding hyperadvanced arty
      It's like 1870 all over again. Kruppbros, we're so back.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like the German eagle is once again raising.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What's the warhead weight?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I want to frick it and get it pregnant

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Are you sure it's the Ramjet one? Can't find anything except people speculating on twitter. Could also be V-LAP from this project
      https://www.army-technology.com/news/rheinmetall-and-northrop-to-offer-future-artillery-ammunition-technology/?cf-view

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >https://www.isl.eu/en/

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >EM-gun
        It's happening

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Rocket assisted projectiles can get you there. This

      https://i.imgur.com/Aylugh6.jpeg

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      NAMMO is Norwegian, get your facts right.

      can potentially go even farther.

      [...]
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      Seems like a waste of money meme. Why not just use a missile or a drone at that point for 1/10 of the price and manufacturing complexity?

      because ballistic and cruise missiles are more expensive relative to the payload delivered and also easier to intercept.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No fricking way.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they are aiming for an effective range of 150+ km sweet baby jesus

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >add a small mmwave radar on it
      >add a shaped charge warhead
      >add a mode where it seeks out trenches or radio signals
      >fire and forget 150+ km brimstone spam
      It wont mulch infantry but you can kiss your logistics and armor goodbye, what a time to be alive.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If the squeeze that much stuff in it, wouldn't the Warhead be really low?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's 20kg, not a stormshadow or FAB but nothing to sneeze at.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >add a small mmwave radar on it
        >add a shaped charge warhead
        >add a mode where it seeks out trenches or radio signals
        >fire and forget 150+ km brimstone spam
        Think bigger anon how bad ass would it be for flak towers anti aircraft use with guided flak?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Think bigger anon how bad ass would it be for flak towers anti aircraft use with guided flak?
          Not to mention that it cruises at 30km altitude.
          It's currently pretty hard to hit things that high up and having an airburst flak shell that can hit them would be bretty gud
          That's nearly Chinese balloon altitude.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/oN9hiGb.jpeg

      kraut ramjet magic

      https://i.imgur.com/ES135Jx.png

      What the frick? How do you get a 155 to shoot 100km? GMLRS can't even do that

      Seems like a waste of money meme. Why not just use a missile or a drone at that point for 1/10 of the price and manufacturing complexity?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >by sending a prototype artillery shell
    WOW ONE SHELL

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They're probably just testing it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >WOW ONE SHELL
      I've heard two bangs before something exploded in BPR

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >all artillery is rocket artillery now
    nice

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    blurring the line between artillery and missiles. rocket artillery I'll allow, but if it can fly under its own power after leaving the barrel it's on thin ice.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is it related to the Boeing Nammo project?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    South Africa has been doing it for a long time. Rheinmettal bought the rights to produce the ammo via a factory in Cape Town.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    those Krauts just can't help but contribute to killing more R*ssians huh? must be genetic

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    One step closer to the holy bolter?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      We are slowly getting there.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Rocket assisted munitions have been a thing for decades.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The idea is that this is a high-priority-only munition, meaning you will have a drone or a satellite feed the PzH2k crew with targeting data for the HVT so it can lay down fire on it ... but what does this do that the SCALP or any other cruise missile doesn't?
    I guess be cheap ~in comparison~.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You don't need to risk your air assets AND an expensive and very limited cruise missile that runs the risk of getting intercepted on the way there. If this gets fielded on a wide scale CRAMS are going to be a must

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I guess.
        I just don't see western militaries operating in an air-stalemate conflict.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's unlikely. The reason it continues to be unlikely is because we assume it could happen. Having alternatives is part of that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's extremely cheap in comparison.
      And it's just an incremental upgrade from rocket-assisted shells. Nothing revolutionary, just evolutionary.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Instead of having a MLRS that can only fire expensive to very expensive munitions, with a GLSDB being the cheapest and still over 50k a pop IIRC, you can have tube artillery which can fire a 50 dollar dumb shell for the majority of it's life and then the big dick one if the situation calls for it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The cost balancing doesn't work out. It's neat there's a sniper round for 155s, but if you're doing long range shots (which is the easymode meta to cope with the modern era of sensors) it's a very cramped, low payload approach unable to match the characteristics of guided rockets.
        Dumb artillery in a 155mm caliber is meta in the 20-30km (arguably 40 with modern guns) range bracket. Fine. Mortars are great in the 4km bracket. Also fine. But if you're doing 100-700km fires as modern satellites and drones allow rockets are physically and financially superior in all ways.
        So while the Russo-Ukrainian war is displaying a brief renaissance of dumb arty in a setting without air power, I think that's misleading. In a peer war either you can get into CQB range (in which case FPVs and mayube some 120mm mortars rule the day) or you can't and it's LRPF all the time. The niche for 155 SPGs is increasingly narrow.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > Mortars are great in the 4km bracket
          What are drones
          Options my dude, further think how many of these can fit on a truck and how fast they can be reloaded. A PzH 2000 can load 60 of these in 12 minutes compared to a single ATCM in HIMARS.
          Awesome the US gets its own Spanish civil war to test all of these questions.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >cheap (kind of)
      >small logistics footprint
      >can be fired from thousands of systems already in the field
      >doesn't give the enemy priority targets

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Harder to intercept and less warning.
      Theoretically, it could have targeting data for a dozen or more targets high value precise targets all 100km+ away in various directions. Could hit numerous high priority targets at similar times all along 1/10th or so of the eastern front line.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How long does it take for the shell to travel those 100kms?
    I guess it is really for sniping stationary stuff deep behind enemy lines.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Some like the Vulcano can have terminal guidance with laser target designators.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wunderbar

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what's the cep?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Probably the usual ~1x1m

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >pls give us 1 million artillery rounds pls
    >lol how about we send you a thousand of these real high-spec rounds instead?
    at last i truly see

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Countries can only produce a single kind of weapon

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >How do you get a 155 to shoot 100km?
    my guess, without looking this up, is rocket assisted climb and wing assisted glide

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When will they be putting the guns back on the Zumwalts?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This seems just as expensive as Excalibur. If you're gonna spend $100k per shell, why not just use missiles instead?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because arty is easier/cheaper to spam.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    remove explosive filler and replace with solid rocket booster

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Screenshot clickbait 100km claim
    >Reality: single test last fall reaching 80km out of unique experimental gun
    >ZOMG 100km guns in two weeks!

    morons in a slide thread

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >slide thread
      I'm flattered, but I just was interested in the clickbait news title and wanted to know more about it. Not everything is some big psyop operation

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    These ramjet shells aren’t going anywhere. No one wants to acquire boutique artillery shells; at most they’ll be like guided shells, used for highly specialized tasks while the overwhelming majority of artillery work will be traditional shell lobbing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      HIMARS is used extensively.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    XM1155-SC rounds are up to 110km so they are still a bit behind the UShttps://www.armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2024/bae-systems-develops-xm1155-sc-artillery-ammunition-able-to-double-fire-range-of-standard-rounds

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Army dropped the program, barrel wear was too much.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ehhh tests are continuing since it's cancellation, and artillery rounds that can shoot down cruise missiles are likely to have a spot in the modern arsenal, especially since it's budget was cut to $0 in 2021 and then we see arty still being important for Ukraine

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Would this be guided? I suppose at that range you'd be using a spotted drone so perhaps correction would be good enough to keep it affordable.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Ukrainians are already occupying thousands of km2 of Russia according to Russia's definition of Russia.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Do it, homosexual. Fricking do it, already. We all already know Russia is doing the very best it can right now, so let's see the mystical surge of nuggets with no optics being issued to troops again.
    If Russia could, they already would have. It's not like they're holding back as it is.
    Please, pretty please, do something that'd trigger actual NATO intervention. I yearn for it, I hunger.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >prototype

    So they are getting like 10 of these. Total Russian humiliation needs to be faster than that.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    TAURUS WHERE

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How's that PZH-2000 purchase going?
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germany-approves-sale-100-howitzers-ukraine-spiegel-2022-07-27/

    Maybe a tank factory, then?
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/10/business/rheinmetall-german-tank-factory-ukraine/index.html

    Or an APC assembly line?
    https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2024/ukraine-welcomes-rheinmetall-s-new-facility-for-production-of-fuchs-and-kf41-lynx-armored-vehicles

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >gmlrs
    >100kg warhead
    >ramjet artillery
    >20kg warhead

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    shoot rockets
    theyre very expensive and complicated to make tho

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