>Russian military is utterly destroyed by a miniscule fraction of NATO equipment sent over without direct involved even being required >"NATO is a paper tiger"
Yup,
I think if there's one takeaway for the west to take from this whole thing, it's to never underestimate their enemy's stupidity and overconfidence.
To not even attempt it. Its an island whose inhabitants spent the last 80 years digging a deep tunnel system into. Unlike the Russians the Chinese also have no recent military experience. It would be a colossal disaster.
>1. take inventory of what you have and don't assume Ching Mi Lee didn't sell it for $50 a pop on chinasurplus webstore >2. don't use wish dot com tier shit to replenish stocks >3. don't send in the paratroopers >4. the west is more prepared than you are >5. don't send in the flagship of the fleet >6. don't send in untrained reserves from Qinghsi province >7. maybe plan a little more than >we'll roll in and be hailed as saviours of all chinese race
Nothing because Taiwan is a totally different ballgame. Ukraine is a proxy war and an arms length ally of NATO. Meanwhile Taiwan is a literal US protectorate, which is why China thinks of the threat of the US Armed Forces and not the ethnonationalist-riddled Republic of China Army and its unwilling Zoomer conscripts when it comes to Taiwan.
The number one thing to learn is purely strategic: just because you consider them citizens of your country on your rightful clay doesn't mean they feel the same way. You might be able to inflict casualties and infrastructure damage, but without an acquiescent majority you aren't incorporating anything, full stop.
Chinese don't have any military strats, they just have a lot of people. If China did the same exact things Russia did they would win from sheer man power alone. You shoot down 2, another 3 come right back up.
>Damn maybe not everyone is trying to take over the entire world
Yes they are, even now. The only difference is that most countries do it economically instead
Just because Russia and China expended upon their direct land neighbors instead of going overseas (which isnt even true for Russia as they tried their hardest to colonize thr US West coast) doesnt mean they are not imperialist.
Literally nothing. The PLA is a branch of the CCP and it’s extraordinarily corrupt. If they learned anything it’s that corrupt militaries have severely downgraded readiness levels. Between this and the Gulf Wars China is probably convinced that they’re in NO way they could even pretend to fight the US.
I don't think they will learn the lesson, simply because they don't like it.
The key takeaway from this would be not to fall for your own propaganda, the people you want to liberate don't like you, but hate you, and will resist with everything they have.
And this means they already fucked up with the crackdown on Hong Kong. Everyone knows no promises will be kept, everyone saw what awaits when you let them in.
China probably thinks that the US/NATO isn't going to commit as hard as it expected. This goes against what most people say but I say it because I believe that China is measuring "aid to Ukraine" via manpower as opposed to equipment. They have acknowledged and realized that NATO countries are willing and capable of economic penalties, but they truly do not think NATO would commit troops to a full-scale war. I also believe that China still drastically underestimates the personal sacrifices that Westerners are willing to make for a Western ideological victory, an incredible irony contrasted with the emphasis on collective unity put on to the populace by the Party.
Probably to not make calculations around the best case scenario and to be willing to drastically change course when needed. Russia would probably be occupying half of Ukraine right now if in April they realized shit wasn't going right and they'd need to mobilize more soldiers, now their army is so depleted in professional soldiers and equipment they can't organize an offensive to take a minor city without sacrificing tens of thousands of soldiers.
>attack infrastructure day one >drones and loitering munitions >24h EW, or blow up anything radiating >clear a 10mile deep no man's land from your front lines
China could curb stomp taiwan with little to no casualties but since China is a nation that's trying to protect itself and its people from the evils of muttmerica, China will peacefully try to integrate Taiwan back into the mainland and seeing how things are playing in muttstand it won't be long until Taiwan reunites with its brothers in China
moron, if America imposed sanctions on China like they did Russia, it would lead to mass starvation because 80% of their fucking food imports come from America and other countries that aren't exactly allies either.
To not do it and just keep posturing
I think if there's one takeaway for the west to take from this whole thing, it's to never underestimate their enemy's stupidity and overconfidence.
>China will learn
China is one man. Surrounded by yes-men. If Poh thinks the time is right, they'll do it.
This.
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No other cultural 'perspective' is important. Do you think Eastern commie despots care about what their slaves think?
This really. Chinese strategy has always been to do the exact opposite of what the Soviets/Russians do
He said lessons that China would learn, not lessons China would ignore.
what is she doing today?
slow soft takeover through subversion instead of special military naval landing
which is exactly what putin should have done instead of sperging out over muh eu trade agreement in 2013
kek what a spaz
NATO is a paper tiger and would further deplete its resources to prevent another invasion. The time is now.
>Russian military is utterly destroyed by a miniscule fraction of NATO equipment sent over without direct involved even being required
>"NATO is a paper tiger"
Yup,
is right.
I can only dream that the Chinks are that stupid.
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>a lot (about 1000$)
>bought at peak (march 2022)
cringe
To not even attempt it. Its an island whose inhabitants spent the last 80 years digging a deep tunnel system into. Unlike the Russians the Chinese also have no recent military experience. It would be a colossal disaster.
If you thinking seeing dead ruskies are fun, imagine seeing dead chinks floating in the straits of taiwan.
>1. take inventory of what you have and don't assume Ching Mi Lee didn't sell it for $50 a pop on chinasurplus webstore
>2. don't use wish dot com tier shit to replenish stocks
>3. don't send in the paratroopers
>4. the west is more prepared than you are
>5. don't send in the flagship of the fleet
>6. don't send in untrained reserves from Qinghsi province
>7. maybe plan a little more than >we'll roll in and be hailed as saviours of all chinese race
Conventional WW2 style wannabe blitzkrieg is stupid. Let's go for a slow approach and subversion instead.
Do like America did and bomb the entire country flat before sending in ground forces.
China has no problem bombing whole Taiwan
Nothing because Taiwan is a totally different ballgame. Ukraine is a proxy war and an arms length ally of NATO. Meanwhile Taiwan is a literal US protectorate, which is why China thinks of the threat of the US Armed Forces and not the ethnonationalist-riddled Republic of China Army and its unwilling Zoomer conscripts when it comes to Taiwan.
I think the Generalissimo would agree.
Don't half-ass it.
Destroy any and all electrical, comm and logistic infrastructure.
The number one thing to learn is purely strategic: just because you consider them citizens of your country on your rightful clay doesn't mean they feel the same way. You might be able to inflict casualties and infrastructure damage, but without an acquiescent majority you aren't incorporating anything, full stop.
Chinese don't have any military strats, they just have a lot of people. If China did the same exact things Russia did they would win from sheer man power alone. You shoot down 2, another 3 come right back up.
China already tried overwhelming numbers against Taiwan in an invasion before, didn’t work.
Dont do it unless the west is distracted or unwilling. Right now is actually probably a window of opportunity
If you're going to invade, do it with overwhelming material and numeric superiority and do not expect the enemy to just roll over and die
Probably that subversion and soft power is better than chimping out
Man you really, really want China to be imperialist huh
Westerners are like "Why didn't China colonize Australia, it was right there!'
Damn maybe not everyone is trying to take over the entire world
>Damn maybe not everyone is trying to take over the entire world
Yes they are, even now. The only difference is that most countries do it economically instead
Just because Russia and China expended upon their direct land neighbors instead of going overseas (which isnt even true for Russia as they tried their hardest to colonize thr US West coast) doesnt mean they are not imperialist.
Literally nothing. The PLA is a branch of the CCP and it’s extraordinarily corrupt. If they learned anything it’s that corrupt militaries have severely downgraded readiness levels. Between this and the Gulf Wars China is probably convinced that they’re in NO way they could even pretend to fight the US.
I don't think they will learn the lesson, simply because they don't like it.
The key takeaway from this would be not to fall for your own propaganda, the people you want to liberate don't like you, but hate you, and will resist with everything they have.
And this means they already fucked up with the crackdown on Hong Kong. Everyone knows no promises will be kept, everyone saw what awaits when you let them in.
China probably thinks that the US/NATO isn't going to commit as hard as it expected. This goes against what most people say but I say it because I believe that China is measuring "aid to Ukraine" via manpower as opposed to equipment. They have acknowledged and realized that NATO countries are willing and capable of economic penalties, but they truly do not think NATO would commit troops to a full-scale war. I also believe that China still drastically underestimates the personal sacrifices that Westerners are willing to make for a Western ideological victory, an incredible irony contrasted with the emphasis on collective unity put on to the populace by the Party.
do not assume that your first plan will work
Probably to not make calculations around the best case scenario and to be willing to drastically change course when needed. Russia would probably be occupying half of Ukraine right now if in April they realized shit wasn't going right and they'd need to mobilize more soldiers, now their army is so depleted in professional soldiers and equipment they can't organize an offensive to take a minor city without sacrificing tens of thousands of soldiers.
>Lesson 1
>Actually plan your invasion
>attack infrastructure day one
>drones and loitering munitions
>24h EW, or blow up anything radiating
>clear a 10mile deep no man's land from your front lines
https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2023/02/25/2003795010
China could curb stomp taiwan with little to no casualties but since China is a nation that's trying to protect itself and its people from the evils of muttmerica, China will peacefully try to integrate Taiwan back into the mainland and seeing how things are playing in muttstand it won't be long until Taiwan reunites with its brothers in China
moron, if America imposed sanctions on China like they did Russia, it would lead to mass starvation because 80% of their fucking food imports come from America and other countries that aren't exactly allies either.