What makes you think that Ukraine won't conclude in another frozen conflict like Cyprus, Georgia and Moldova? Considering neither sides refuse to accept the others demands and the imposibility of making a difference in the front because of static warfare.
Nobody here claims that it wont though?
What impossibility? Ukraine destroyed 3 fronts in 3 counteroffensives in Kyiv, Kharkiv and Kherson with nothing but their soviet garbage. What do you think they will do after a year of fighting has depleted both armies BUT the ukrainians are getting hundreds of Bradleys and Western tanks?
>Ukraine destroyed 3 fronts in 3 counteroffensive
Kiev was a completely russian retreat
Kherson was also a russian retreat. Although it's bold to recognise that Ukraine hasn't done all the effort to cut the Dnipro suppply
Kharkiv was in the beginning a semi-retreat of the russian forces, followed by a completely ukrainian counteroffensive further from Oskil river.
I don't think Russia will make the same mistake, because they reinforced Zaporozhe with lots of forts and people over there.
So why did they retreat? Did it have anything to do with the Ukrainian tanks chasing them?
Kiev: Russians concluded that capturing the capital of your enemy with such a small force (20k) won't give you great results.
Kharkiv: Unprotected front full of unexperienced mobikd
Kherson: Supply lines met bottlenecks of the Dnipro bridges, easily hitting there with Himars.
>I don't think Russia will make the same mistake
There's no same mistake to be made because all those scenarios where the Russians got outmatched by the ukies are completely different. Kharkiv was reinforced enough to deter the Ukrainians until Russian forces got attrited enough and some also got redeployed to Kherson, mobilization doesn't mean the same thing can't happen again elsewhere.
Meanwhile during the Ukrainian assault Kherson was the main point of defense for the entire Russian army, the Oblast was fortified and heavily defended, the Russians withdrew to cut their losses early on because despite all of that, they still failed to deny the Ukrainian advance and failed to protect their supply lines.
If they withdraw from Zaporizhia after being attrited enough by the Ukrainians to the point where mounting a proper defense is no longer feasible, will you also just shrug and say it won't happen again in the better defended Crimea and Donetsk?
> If they withdraw from Zaporizhia after being attrited enough by the Ukrainians to the point where mounting a proper defense is no longer feasible,
The possibility of this is %0. UA is on the defensive in that region as we speak, plus that area was heavily reinforced with multiple lines of mines, razor-wire, pillboxes, minefields etc under Surovikin, its visible from space with satellites how much they fortified it.
Show us these forts
When globohomo cuts off the cash flow, their mercs will be doing dog tricks for the Russians within a month. Zel won't be alive to see it though. Celebs can't live to talk.
Because time isn't on Russia's side. Their demographics is abysmal, as is their economy and morale. Ukrainian meanwhile now has a founding story of legend. They're working hard and fully to head towards the West. They're getting ever more advanced equipment. They've got lots of economic potential. Russia has $300b in frozen funds abroad that are all going to get confiscated and given to Ukraine (even if the West pays itself back with some of them that'd still be a couple hundred billion left to Ukraine). What Ukraine could use the most would be time without any particularly hot conflict. That'd let them build up and train up rapidly. If the war was frozen tomorrow, then in 1 year from now (March 2024) Ukraine would have gotten far stronger than Russia in the same period, and would promptly resume. Russia has no choice but to keep grinding or give up.
>time isn't on Russia's side.
but russian stubbornness is. the only way russia can lose is for russia to decide it has lost. they will happily spend the next few hundred years lobbing missiles into kievan childrens hospitals if it comes to that.
Kek, Russian demographics are glorious compared to Banderastan, a failed state in every way, worse than africa tier, and even worse when globohomo pulls the plug.
May we see them?
You mean time isn't on the Ukrainian side? Ukraine has spend 33% of their budget on their defence. Russia only has 4%. It's bold to assume Russia is at war with Ukraine if they are far away of a war economy. This is not a sustainable war from Ukraine. The only way for them to recover their territory is by military force, which they it's unclear which is the winning side. The longer the war, the more probable fifthcolumunists and populists of european parties may force Ukraine for a stalemate or any treaty that might pull of Ukraine from recoverning all of their sovereing territory and from joining the EU or NATO. I know it's unfair, but so does every territorial conflict in Europe
Putin can't even begin to stop unless he gets all of Donbas, otherwise he looks like a cuck, and judging by the progress in Bakhmut it's going to be a very, very long time before Russians get to the provincial borders.
it already was a frozen conflict up until feb 2022 and russia was in control of the situation but then monke went full retard
It probably will end in an unhappy stalemate
If the ukranians fail to take any more ground this year then theres a good chance there will be peace talks and the conflict will end. We will have to wait and see. Theyre going to launch another offensive soon, thats guaranteed.
Cyprus was infested by turks. Occupied territores genocided every willing russia lover last year.
that's how it will end, as in any of the cases you mentioned the west has the power to end it but not the will, life in the west it's simply too good for militarism to be popular, so imperfect pacifist solutions will prevail, sorry ukrainians you'll have to accept a cuck out compromise
Keep hoping and coping vatnik.
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Moldova's issue will be resolved next.
You gotta appreciate how in just one year, we've gone from
>"All of Ukraine will be Russian clay"
>"Mission accomplished, we've created a static conflict."
The fucking word "cope" is beginning to not be enough.
> the imposibility of making a difference in the front because of static warfare.
As Zelensky himself admitted in a CNN interview, once Artyemovsk falls, the road to the Dneiper is clear. It wont be so static then
Russian is still training up most of its mobilized reservists by the way, they have not even entered the line of contact yet.
The west will keep supplying Ukraine with weapons because everyone hates Russia and (more importantly) because the MIC sure as fuck isn't going to let this one get away easily.
Meanwhile, the Ukrainians know that they NEED to push the Russians out even if it costs them millions of lives so they don't really have any other choice.
tl:dr; Stronger incentives and stronger economies will eventually prevail.
Sounds like another win for the west, less resources available for Russia to aim at us.