What makes an assault rifle obsolete?

What makes an assault rifle obsolete? The human will never be able to stop a bullet, because an assault rifle can become obsolete, for example the FAL, I think it is more reliable than any variant of the M4 or HK416.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Obsolete means simply not being used anymore. The term often gets used online as a substitute for obsolescent, which means not being modern or in keeping with current trends; so when you see those two terms used interchangeably you know you're talking to a dumb Black person who is using words he doesn't know the meaning of to seem smarter. Naturally, you see that several times a day on /k/.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The problem with the FAL in the US (from what I’ve heard) is that we just kind of have a bad taste in our mouth from DSA. Apparently FAL’S manufactured other places just tend to be more reliable and fundamentally work better. DSA’s are the only new FAL’s people can buy in the US but they have a long documented history of issues.
      Also

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >DSA’s are the only new FAL’s people can buy in the US
        It’s worse that—Peru and South Africa have both used DSA to refurb their service rifles. There are not a lot of options these days when it comes to FAL makers tbh.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm ESL, that's my mistake. Anyway, why would an assault rifle become obsolescent?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        using the mp5 as an example, some many consider it obsolescent for the fact that the manual of arms is complicated compared to modern weapons of the same type. Really it just means that something superior has shown up and become the preferable option as it makes it more effective, and effective wins.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What 9mm SMG is actually superior to the MP5? It's used all over the world. Sig Mpx? Real talk it doesn't do anything the MP5 cant do already.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It does what the MP5 does more ergonomically, has better controls, and can attach gizmos much more easily. It is a straight upgrade.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      damn. you must feel insanely fricking smart when you say such moronic bullshit like that so smugly. obsolescent just means becoming obsolete. you can google it, you can check every dictionary in the world, and then you can have a nice day.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >obsolescent just means becoming obsolete
        So, not obsolete then? Out of vogue, but not obsolete? Huh, that's almost like... what I fricking said. Dumb Black person rewording my post back to me as if it were a rebuttal. Maybe people wouldn't get condescending around you if you weren't such a dumb Black person all the time.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Obsolete means simply not being used anymore. The term often gets used online as a substitute for obsolescent, which means not being modern or in keeping with current trends; so when you see those two terms used interchangeably you know you're talking to a dumb Black person who is using words he doesn't know the meaning of to seem smarter. Naturally, you see that several times a day on /k/.

          did you homosexuals come here to argue about br v. ar or the english language?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      your piece of shit rifle was obsolescent when it came out along with the M14

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >confidently wrong
      obsolete does not mean nonfunctional. it means surpassed by other things that do the job better. in this case it might mean lighter, more reliable, cheaper, better performance, etc. obsolescent means becoming obsolete you absolute drooling moron. you could say a design is 'obsolesced' but that just refers to the process of becoming obsolete, which guns like the FAL are. why do you even

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Oxford Learners Dictionary
      >obsolete
      >adjective
      >no longer used because something new has been invented
      >SYNONYM out of date

      >obsolescent
      >adjective
      >becoming old-fashioned and no longer useful

      You know nothing, homosexual.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not sure what you think you were doing there because you just proved his point.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Only to an ESL, which he might be, if he's relying on a literal reading of that website.
          As native speakers we can tell that the definition of the latter leads directly to the former, such that it can even be conjoined thus:
          >becoming old-fashioned and no longer useful because something new has been invented

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >FAL
    >more reliable than any variant of the M4 or HK416

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If I was such a pussy getting tossed by the recoil I’d expect malfunctions too

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice cherry-picked sample size of ONE.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cherrypicking

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Military production fals are GTG. FALs have a shitty reputation in the US because DSA rifles aren't very good. The G3/HK91 has a great reputation because PTR generally makes really good guns.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Notwithstanding, we're at the point where cheap (contemporary) AR-15's are equally reliable as any FAL

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What makes an assault rifle obsolete?

    Eugene Stoner is what makes an assault rifle obsolete. literally just this one smug frick

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It brightened my day when I learned that he lived long enough to see optic rails and free-floating guards

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why does the AR get credited for nearly every feature the FAL already possessed?
      >LRBHO
      >bolt release button
      >adjustable gas port
      >designed to be reloaded and charged with the support hand

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        because in every way that the FAL is a clunky inaccurate piece of shit, the AR-10 is a lightweight and elegant work of art

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most people only know what theyre exposed to and most people have very little exposure to FALs, they aren't romanticized in classic movies like the M14 is and they were never cheap like the G3 (in terms of PTRs and centurys). They have only ever really been available in parts kits (which presents another filter to ownership) or from DSA. It certainly feels wrong to call the rifle that at one point armed half the planet obscure, but in the eyes of the gun-owning public, they really are.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the FAL was just OK

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Adjustable gas ports are an aftermarket feature in ARs, the original design and issued M16/M4s did not have it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Right but the AR gets credited for whatever has been invented for it by 2024
          Every other gun is treated like its original military iteration

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fal is shit and has to cope with adjustable gas to stay reliable.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You could just as easily say the AR-15 is coping with it's adjustable weights and springs.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you think the FAL is more reliable?
    It has problems that no other modern rifle has, like receiver stretch from its stupid tilting bolt system.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Name true assault rifles that are obsolete, find me a battle rifle that's obsolete.
    I cant think of any that really are, stuff like the SKS isn't frontline issue anymore but it pops up in Ukraine still and is held in reserve.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even the father of assault rifles shows up in modern conflicts from time to time. Anything that's semi automatic and magazine fed will suffice, Russian cannon fodder are going out with Mosins still and I'd take anything post ww2 over one if those.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Name true assault rifles that are obsolete, find me a battle rifle that's obsolete.
      >I cant think of any that really are, stuff like the SKS isn't frontline issue anymore but it pops up in Ukraine still and is held in reserve.
      Just because something is in service doesn't mean much. I'm still waiting on seeing a Russian honor guard SKS pop up in Ukraine too

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >because something is in service doesn't mean much
        Well it does mean its in service and being used...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SKS is fed with stripper clips and tops out at 10 rounds. There are modifications that allow you to use detachable box magazines. These are modifications, not the rifle itself. This constitutes a redesign of the weapon, making it fundamentally different.

      AKs are obsolete. The magazines are held in very gingerly compared to anything with an actual magwell. If you trip and land with the magazine smacking into something, it very well can damage the latch. The handguard is comically small and prone to burning, which causes smoke, which is bad for reasons I shouldn't need to explain. Newer rifles do away with the wood, which means a partial redesign. The dust cover is about as effective at keeping dust out as squinting in a dust storm.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The magazines are held in very gingerly compared to anything with an actual magwell. If you trip and land with the magazine smacking into something, it very well can damage the latch.
        This has literally never happened to anyone
        The AK has its issues but you don't have to make shit up

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is the most moronic type of fuddlore out there.
        Hell, AKs magazines with built in feet for using as a monopod are very common and are even more reliable and durable than standard AR magazines being used as such.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        7.62 out of an SKS will kill you the same as 7.62 out of an AK.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The SKS sights are surprisingly bad even compared to an AK

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Inability to mount modern accessories and isnt built for suppressor use

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Guess this is obsolete then

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >isnt built for suppressor use
      Just get a flow through suppressor.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    well for example, if you use a weapon with a baby caliber like 5.56 it won't be able to deal with modern armor, cover, or the combat bots that will soon be deployed to battlefields

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing that can comfortably fired from the shoulder can do that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        5.56cels still coping hard I see

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Name something that can.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the XM7 moron

            >inb4 garand thumb shot at some armor with copper .277 ammo and it didn't work

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It cannot without using the same extremely expensive tungsten projectiles we already are using right now for the job.
              And even with those, most new LV4 plates will stop it anyhow.
              It isn't magic. 80k PSI, and a 13" barrel cancel each other out significantly.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I think it is more reliable than any variant of the M4 or HK416.
    Be less obvious.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The SCAR 17 is the FAL but better in every way possible
    That doesnt mean the FAL is obsolete

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rape rifle now

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >for example the FAL, I think it is more reliable than any variant of the M4 or HK416.

    Which is why the IDF quickly shifted away from the FALs to AR variants right?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the IDF quickly shifted away from the FALs to AR variants because they got a shit ton of brand new ARs for free

      Literally no one else ever had FAL malfunctions because of sand

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They shifted from FALs to Galils then Tavor THEN sprinkle ARs to accompany tavors and negevs.

      The FAL is an incredibly simple and reliable weapon system its just even with sand cut bolts it wasn't the right rifle for the job. Optics are important to consider when arming your military. Having free ARs from the US + all the bootleg ARs the Arabs have picked up post-Iran pull out it just makes sense to use. M4 is like AK, nyet rifle fine meme. It's good but not exceptional and end of the day ARs are not great at eating sand and we all know this common fact.
      >KJAYK

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >5 years ago "MUH ASSAULT RIFLE" homosexual posters would be shit on more than Maisy Van Kamp around here
    >now /k/ommandos pretend like it's normal
    Are gungays really this fricking stupid?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ITS NOT A HECKING ASS SALT RIFLE PLEASE DONT BAN IT ATF!!!!
      lmao, i like my assault rifle 15

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      t. doesn’t know the difference between assault rifle and assault weapon

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >t. doesn’t know the difference between assault rifle and assault weapon
        An assault rifle is an AR-15. An assault weapon is something like a knife.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no guns: the post
    Here’s your >(you)

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What makes an assault rifle obsolete?
    The fact that there are better, more accurate solutions on the market for the same price range.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nowadays? the amount of shit you can put on it.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If something like a PDW or SMG somehow was given the ability to fire rounds with as much power as an assault rifle, people would likely switch to using that over a full-length rifle. You already see it with the US preferring the M4.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not being in 6.8mm and not having a smart scope/ballistics computer.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is the point of even having an ultra-expensive computerized optic if those dumbass grunts are gonna knock the barrel out of its zero anyways?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is just an advanced BDC.
      SIG has been selling the same product to boomers for years to deer hunting.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Still can't buy a semi-auto rifle in the new round
      I SEETHE

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      god why does that helmet look so moronic?

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not being a bullup.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FALs are obsolescent not obsolete.
    >heavier than an AR
    >heavier ammo
    >more expensive ammo
    >inherently less accurate than an AR
    >not a super great optic mounting solution

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    5 important points
    1) spares a model with no spares is absolutely dead since it has its days counted
    2)discontinued ammo,similar to spares
    3) no quick detach system(scopes, barrel threading etc) the gun will kill the same without those but it will be significantly harder to use in adverse conditions
    4)bad performance on "all weather" situations,should be obvious why
    5)too old ammo,not always but most often that not it kills a gun unless there are conversion kit

    a gun is a tool you. learn to use the tool and then adapt it to your needs there is no gun perfect for all situations and conditions

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sa80 suffers from points 1&2, the A3 upgrades aren't new rifles, no new L85's have been made for decades, everything's just upgrading what is already in inventory.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FAL isn't as "assault rifle" it is a true automatic rifle because it fires a full rifle round (7.62 nato) instead of an assault round (5.56)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >assault round

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The inability to attach modern optics and gizmos that are a force multiplier in this day and age. Some older designs can hamfist an optics rail, but others are just incapable. Look at AKMs, that stupid side rail is a joke.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Look at AKMs, that stupid side rail is a joke
      How?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Look at AKMs, that stupid side rail is a joke.
        homie, you is dumb.

        It defintely fricks up the handling.
        That is why anyone serious about building a modern AK goes for a top mounted railed dust cover replacement either in the path of Zenitco or Sureshot or TWS.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Look at AKMs, that stupid side rail is a joke.
      homie, you is dumb.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because some neckberad can drop a shell on you with his drone

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What makes an assault rifle obsolete?
    Newer assault rifles are lighter, more reliable, cheaper, more accurate.
    >I think
    You're wrong.

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