I'm curious about this part of the SERE training and how the operators resist the psychological and physical suffering that torture inflicts on it's victims.
I started to think about this after reading the William Francis Buckley case.
This poor lad suffered for 15 months before being killed and he was a Green Beret and a Vietnam Veteran.
>Buckley was close to a gibbering wretch. His words were often incoherent; he slobbered and drooled and, most unnerving of all, he would suddenly scream in terror, his eyes rolling helplessly and his body shaking.[27] The CIA consensus was that he would be blindfolded and chained at the ankles and wrists and kept in a cell little bigger than a coffin.
You can always die fighting to the very last breath, or live to fight another day, even to see victory. Surrender is a choice that you are not required to make.
Anything between breakfast and buckshot is the merciful fate of a man who throws in the towel over a competition openly about trying to literally kill each other.
For me, it is liberty or death. The Lord Almighty sits in wait for my soul, and if He has decided to claim this lone traveler in the grace of battle, then I could not complain to dwell in that gentle light of sweet holy martyrdom.
What the FUCK are you even talking about? What does this have to do with my question?
It's a bot designed to start arguments about religion and get it killed for off topic, ignore it.
The reality is that there is no "Preparing someone for torture" There is nothing that can prepare the human mind for long term intensive psychological abuse, or permanently damaging and disfiguring physical torture. Everyone will break, everyone will cry, everyone fails, like the man you were reading about. But in 'most' situations that's not actually what happens, soldiers go to POW camps, they're grouped together and thrown in holes, maybe they'll get the shit kicked out of them once or twice before routine sets in or they are rescued/exchanged. What SERE does is to prepare soldiers mentally for the short term and low level situations, what it actually feels like to be at the mercy of someone that doesn't give a fuck about you, what the situation can look like, how you can work with your comrades to improve the situation, how and when to look for opportunities. That way if it happens for real they don't turn to babbling, panic attacking retards.
That's makes sense.
Everyone have a breaking point even if someone is a Delta Force or SAS operator...
Electric and drowning/waterboarding are a decent way to inflict great amounts of pain and distress without causing much damage.
Doesn't matter how cool your patch is, some things just suck that much.
From everything officially available the torture training SAS undergo is more like a jackoff session. They even spent a few mins in the documentary talking about how they get female squadies to criticize penis size
>Omg it's so small
I wouldn't do anything with that would you???
>Tittering and giggling
Mate, nearly came just hearing it second hand.
We were getting marched to the confinement area and one of the female guards said "He is hairy like bear." in her fake Spanish accent. The survival portion of SERE was pretty cool. Resistance training not so much.
This can't be true.
No shit, sherlock
>Buckley
That's got to be the worst torture story that we know of. Beyond cruel. Yeah the CIA are an evil organization, and it can be assumed that they have done far worse, but 15 months is pure satanic
>Yeah the CIA are an evil organization, and it can be assumed that they have done far worse
>NOO NOT THE HECKIN BROWNIRINIOS
>NOO NOT THE HECKIN WHOLESOME THIRD WORLDIRINOS
Christian here. It brings a smile to my face when I think...one day God is going to rekt the fuck out of these government sanctioned murderers. From a compassion pov, sometimes there has got to be limit to doing operations. It is against human nature to exclusively work to destroy people on an industrial level. I can't think of any other country besides israhell that openly likes to kill people. I pity those who support the actual terrorists in Tel Aviv and Langley
>I can't think of any other country besides israhell that openly likes to kill people
There's an entire continent of people that love genocide, mass murder, torture and rape of innocent civilians, bro
Ah yes when I think about bastions of Christianity I think about Communism and the Middle East
>From a compassion pov, sometimes there has got to be limit to doing operations. It is against human nature to exclusively work to destroy people on an industrial level.
Shut fuck up. Don't act like Paco or Abdul wouldn't have a problem violently due to being a "Western Imperialist" or whatever.
> violently
*violently kill you
>I can't think of any other country besides israhell that openly likes to kill people.
Soviets, Nazis, Imperial Japanese, Russians, East Germans, Haitian Tonton Macoutes, Chilean Junta, Spanish Inquisition, the Aztecs...
I've tried to find what Hezbollah did to him but the stories lack detail.
All I know is that he was tortured for 15 months, injected with drugs and then killed.
Checked & psychpilled.
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>t. sere attendee
I heard they put ice on your balls.
Is it really that bad?
It sounds mildly uncomfortable at worst
Special forces isn't actually real. Nobody actually knows someone who was special forces, just paid celebrity actors and friends of friends, because the idea of infantry who are better than other infantry "le because... they just are, okay????" sneaking around doing shit a bomb somehow can't is a good enough cover story for the aerosolized nanite clouds they've been using for hits for decades. As long as nobody knows what to actually expect, no one can adequately protect and counter it
>aerosolized nanite clouds they've been using for hits for decades
Tell me more. Any proof whatsoever of this?
Swedefag here.
I talked to my friends dad who was in our version of Rangers (Jägare) as a scout sniper, he told us that they captured him when he was out in the field, blindfolded him, tied him up, and then put headphones on him and played the same 10 seconds of a song over and over.
He couldn't remember how long it went on for, but he said that it felt like an eternity, probably hours.
The whole thing was (according to him) pretty realistic, they grabbed him without him having any sort of knowledge of it beforehand, and none of them spoke, nor sounded swedish (and they weren't exactly handling him softly).