What kind of stuff does Wagner have? Do they get any weapons and vehicles from the Russian government?

What kind of stuff does Wagner have? Do they get any weapons and vehicles from the Russian government?
Do they have artillery and ammunition to fight like the normal army does?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What kind of stuff does Wagner have?
    Nothing

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just a slave army, and not really that after bakhmut

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They have Africans.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fanny, in early days, wagner consisted of veterans and professional mercenaries. But, all this morons are dead like vdv.

    Now new wagner consistent of penal battalions that storm enemy with human waves regardless of loss.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I know about the prisoners but is there any information about how many of them have died?
      That they're recruiting like that could just be that they need to expand because what they have now obviously isn't enough to win, even if they still had most of their "good" soldiers left.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'd assume at least half of their "good" soldiers are irrecoverable losses. They're deniable assets, mercs getting killed raises less of a fuss. And Wagner, Redut, etc expanded their hiring after the Kiev retreat, then dropped requirements at around the "operational pause" after the fall of Severodonetsk - before they started recruiting prisoners they had already dropped the requirement for military experience in their recruitment ads.
        Assume they took heavy losses, particularly with the guys in the reserves or who had military experience rather than the spooks and secret squirrels, now Prigozhin is trying to keep them alive to maintain a loyal cadre just in case shit goes south. It's the nobodies and prisoners who are dying now.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >That they're recruiting like that could just be that they need to expand
        Why would they go to maximum security prisons if they just needed to expand?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          that's exactly why they're going to prisons. i'm guessing those prisoners aren't eligible to be conscripted or it'd cause too many problems or whatever, and they absolutely can't sign a contract.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That sounds like aiding conscription, not expanding in any capacity.

            The Ukrainians and Russians all ignore the Geneva Conventions but are signatories to it. They can't use literal mercenaries.

            Also Wagner isn't considered a mercenary group anyways, by Geneva because they only have one client which is the Russian government. It's a legal fiction. Wager is an extension of the Russian government.

            >The Ukrainians and Russians
            No, it's just the Russians.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >early days, wagner consisted of veterans and professional mercenaries
      They were shit then too. Turkey has manhandled them on multiple occasions and the one time they attacked Burgers they got routed with a hundred deaths and zero kills. We were all peddled lies.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > the one time they attacked Burgers
        Seriously what were they thinking? Russia was “allied” with the US at the time

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          they're braindead orks, they weren't thinking

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the one time they attacked Burgers they got routed with a hundred deaths and zero kills
        Saying it over and over won't make it true.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          then why do vatniks bother making /chug/?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Here's footage of HIMARS-launched GMLRS hitting the Wanger boys in 2018

          ?t=85

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They did at the start, but now Wagner is 95% penal battalions conducting frontal assaults on Bahmut

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    On the whole they're more or less just the Russian Army if they weren't completely incompetent and could actually afford to kit out their troops with their better gear, though they're starting to get worn down. Even still the average Wagner Group soldier is better equipped and trained than the average conscript, even if he is just some dumbshit trying to get out of a prison sentence. They have all the gear they need to fight like the normal army but they don't coordinate with them at all and they're paid by the amount of land captured so they don't do anything that's strategically important. They just try to gobble up as many empty Ukie fields as possible. They're just another wasted Russian asset.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They have that one dildo

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All shitposts aside, they operate same equipment as the ruski army, this includes tank, artillery/SPGs and even aviation. That one shot down retired 60+ years old pilot general Kanamat Botashev was on wagner contract.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanamat_Botashev

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do they get plenty of artillery ammunition too?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wagner is literally just a branch of the Russian Ministry of Defense. They train at Russian military bases, use their logistics, fly on their planes, use their vehicles, etc. Only difference is they only recruit prior military males over 25. It's dredges of society. Their only client is the Russian Ministry of Defense.

    They're not really mercenaries, that's against the Geneva Conventions. They're not really PMCs, they're not private. They're just a little branch of the military with a different pay scale and insurance policy. It's literally a Russian government organization only slightly different organization so people can pretend they're not.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >TF Orange
      >Special Activities Division
      Yes, every nation government has a force that plays in the grey area.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Except, they're more akin to blackwater, and they're 100% a private company with a corporate structure.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >KBR
          >Haliburton
          >Defense Contractors
          I think you misunderstand the relationship between government and private industry.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think you're failing to change the subject.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Blackwater owned their own training facilities.
          They had civilian helicopters and trucks.
          Wagner gets real military equipment like tanks, IFVs and combat helicopters. They even had Su-25s.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Eric Prince had combat aviation assets towards the end. Long interview about this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oDezzhe_eo

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Blackwater very much had military helicopters, planes, and almost israeli A4s

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >They're not really mercenaries, that's against the Geneva Conventions.
      They absolutely are mercenaries, and there's no translation for the geneva convention in Russian.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Ukrainians and Russians all ignore the Geneva Conventions but are signatories to it. They can't use literal mercenaries.

        Also Wagner isn't considered a mercenary group anyways, by Geneva because they only have one client which is the Russian government. It's a legal fiction. Wager is an extension of the Russian government.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Geneva convention has probably had less real world impact than they would have liked it to have on paper. Russia especially doesn't care for it and who is going to take them to task for it after the war? If they lose, the Ukrainians will righteously hang the scum responsible. If they miraculously win, who punishes a triumphant nation?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For a serious answer they operate soviet helos and a couple su25s in Africa so probably also in ukr as well as cargo planes and air defense shit like pantsir. I dont think they have big guns as the nature of their ops aren't really grinding assaults but im sure theres mortars and other stuff. If your wondering if they could fight independently against ukr the answer is probably not

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Thousands of hard-ass bros who will furiously suck your cock. They're geared with knee pads and they don't need lube.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wagner is really the Platonic ideal of the Russian military model, sending human trash to die in senseless frontal assaults while an oligarch lines his pockets with public money.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I knew that patch looked familiar.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    poster people with cool kit and expendable soldiers that get thrown into the grinder in the hopes of not having to pay them

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Before Ukraine: experienced veterans and former special forces member with good gear and equipment deployed in special operations were the russian goverment dosen't want to deploy its own troops.

    At the beginning of Ukraine invasion: same as before but used as stormtroopers to take difficult positions.

    Now: by abusing the fact that Wagners don't count in the death toll of the Russian army they have been used for almost all high risk offensive operations, the experienced guys are mostly dead and have been replaced by inexperienced conscripts out of prisons with minimal training. This resulted in Wagner having to get either regular soldiers into it's ranks with a big pay increase or to get anyone they get from the inmate prison population to have a barely functional military force.

    Regarding equipment they do get equipment transferred to them from the Russian army howeithry increasingly lack the trained personell to operate them.

    They are now practically a penal battalion with regular soldiers as officers/commissars.
    They officers are allowed to kill anyone disobeying orders on the spot with no consequences.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I feel like most Russian units at this point are just conscript pig pens with the few remaining contract guys acting as NCOs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No there are still plenty of regulars in particular in Kherson. But casualties keep growing.

        However the need for NCO for the conscripts will likely require a lot of experienced soldiers to be repositioned as babysitting the new conscripts.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They do still have a lot of experienced fighters. Whatever you wrote you just pulled out of your ass.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Listened to some stream with a Wagner fag recently. They have planes, tanks, American sniper rifles and plenty of ammo.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They got manhandled regularly by west african morons. They also got BTFO by Turks and Americans.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do they actually just have a contract for taking a specific
    target? Bakmuth?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's been said they get paid a bonus per town taken.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They also hunt USAF service member for bounty. Regardless of the outcome...

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Where would one be able to get their hands on a Wagner patch without having to go to Ukraine and taking it off a body or, god forbid, join them?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ask some mexican or other minority to do it for you on etsy. There's an entire goddamn general dedicated to the topic of patches

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