What is the purpose of the bullpup?

What is the purpose of the bullpup?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shorter overall length while retaining a decent sized barrel.
    Now delete the slide thread.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >fpbp
      urban combat springs to mind just because a military force would potentially have to transition from CQB to 300+ meter engagements pretty often in any kind of serious city fighting. if you arent enlisted in a military force currently fighting in a city, the purpose of bullpups is to let other gay men at the range know youre DTF

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Except you're more likely to have to change shoulders in an urban environment, so unless it ejects downwards, not the best choice.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Or just have a deflector, isn't that how devil handed(left) people cope sometimes anyways?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I wouldn't know. I'm not a filthy southpaw, nor a bullpup enjoyer.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You can also eject forwards. Two bullpups so far have done that. Or use a deflector. If anyone cared it'd be an easy thing, so far though doesn't seem to have come up. And obviously doesn't matter for manual. In an anti-material role nobody is switching sides so that's a good niche as well.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >$18000
            oof. damn is that a cool rifle though.long action is so neat even if not optimal for accuracy it's like you're shooting a naval cannon.

            coolest intro he'll ever do

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So kissable

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    some people are just born gay

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well hopefully the bullpup will turn them straight again, but I can't guarantee anything.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    To make coffee which is good for you

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Making homos seethe while allowing based enjoyers to have a shorter rifle

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    To teach those ISA scum a lesson

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Visari did nothing wrong!

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody knows, it's a secret kept by evil wizards

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    cool scifi looks

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's not a pup, it's not a bull, what's the deeeeeal?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    to punish every person born wrong-handed, as they should be

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They are the perfect weapon for bipedal robot soldiers.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shorter rifle without a barrel chop and increasingly ridiculous cope loadings until you figure out you need an entirely new calibre.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    To look cool.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >he bought the contact DLC

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'll get the Helion once they fricking give us the Croatian Army carry handles.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'd unironically take a pic rail and irons over that optic rail
        >t. fingerfricked one

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          looking cool > practicality

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'd unironically take a VHS-D2 with the optic

          >t. Have an 18" railed one

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Fun. Also as other anons have mentioned shortened overall length.
    My ak is literally the size of an ar with a 10.5 inch barrel without sacrificing balistics.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      holy manlet hands
      that thing probably rapes your jaw and has the crunchiest fricking trigger ever too

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I like it! Did you make the file yourself?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks. Nah I just messed with it in tinkercad a bit. The guy that made it goes by DinkaRoubles.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >x39 ballistics
      16 barrel is a waste for that round, you get marginally more velocity for what? in your case an abomination of trash parts and setup which now does nothing well

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >16 barrel is a waste for that round
        7.62x39 was literally designed for 16" barrel. However, for a bullpup, I would prefer a 12" for an even shorter package but to each their own

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There is basically no reason to get a 7.62x39 gun with a barrel over 10", if you have a choice.
          The cartridge is not velocity dependent, and going from 10" to 16" gets you only <200FPS.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You already sacrificed ballistics the moment you got a 7.62x39 rifle

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And accuracy.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And accuracy.

        Where did these contrarian neofudds come from?

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It looks cool.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the m193 performance of an 18 inch barrel in a package the length of a 10 inch AR.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Tavor
      How does it feel to be gay and moronic?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Feels great, how’s your campus sit in or whatever?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, you're israeli.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >he doesn’t actively deprive israel of small arms while they march through gaza
        Ngmi

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you fricktard that's a commercially available gun, you're feeding them for cucked nofullauto and you know frick well israelis don't actually fight they just have mutts fight for them

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Mine’s actually an IWI Tar-21, not the SAR.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Oh, you're israeli.

        >noooooooo you can't own a gun made in a country with a government that's ever done MEAN THINGS
        Oh, ok, I guess that leaves getting guns from... uh...
        Do you actually own any guns anon?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's my belief the more unethical the country, the better the guns are. For example, Turkish crimes are pretty minor in the grand scheme of things so their guns suck. Meanwhile the Italians commit a crime against humanity by merely continuing to exist, therefore they make great guns

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Italians are the only middle eastern people who desire to exist. The only good thing to come out of Turkey was Mount & Blade and their women. Italians have there women, food, history and the sopranos.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              *deserve.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Italians have there women, food, history and the sopranos.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yep. Galils uzis and x95s are all amazing guns.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What a moronic post, turkish atrocity list is a mile long

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah but they're all the crimes against humanity equivalent of jaywalking or a parking violation. They haven't really done anything really bad, arguably they've helped the world by reducing the number of Kurds and Armenians

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Hey no question de-kurding is a public service, but let's not forget their abominable treatment of POWs in the Great War and the preceeding centuries of attacking Europe, operating slave trades that enslaved Europeans, etc.
                Plus, you know, existing at all. Roaches are known to be a pest.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Kurt's are commie shits, Armenians are Christian persiaslavs and had it coming.
                Ottoman empire did good for mid east but I'll never forgive the Turks for Constantinople and raids into europe

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              T. Greek brainlet

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            profound

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Turkish crimes are pretty minor i
            They've committed like, 8 genocides.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The Turks took Constantinople

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, but most states aren't a net negative contributor to our world.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ALL states are a net negative to our world you frickin’ commie
            NO MINORITY SMALLER THAN THE INDIVIDUAL.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >t. just read The Fountainhead

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            How does that apply to Israel? They've got a positive GDP and not based on subhuman resource extraction shit either. Off the top of my head, they:
            - Saved Intel with the Pentium M which then became the Core series, that was a good decade and half or so.
            - Made some cool guns that work well.
            - Came up with some really good desalination tech.

            Any country that does good chips, guns, and water can't be all bad. Yeah they've killed a bunch of dune coons along the way and the orthodox are homosexuals but no place is perfect and frankly why would civilized people fricking care, the entire region is a shithole and I'll be delighted when everything is fully electrified or synthetic hydrocarbons so we can tell them all to frick off. But by the standards of the region israelis seem to have been fine. No mass use of chemical weapons, no knocking down our skyscrapers. I hope they kill nathanyahoo though.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The /misc/troon won’t respond but that’s a really high effort post anon, ty

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >no knocking down our skyscrapers
              Was with you until this. That was a joint Saudi/israelite venture

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Saved Intel with the Pentium M which then became the Core series, that was a good decade and half or so.

              15% of their population are Soviet era Soviet expats with dubious right of return bona fides working to steal as much tech as they can lay their hands on, and transfer it to Moscow & Beijing. Therefore they make good guns, at least for plinking non-Neopalestinians.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Pinnacle of Zionism and fricking Croatia is 3x safer and more free than this USA project that lives as a parasite on the American armpit. And Americans have the hugest boner for israeliteroos
              Twas funny when Blinken cried, like actually cried, in front of the cameras whe he was talking about some dead Ukies and a year later shrugs and says "you know, its war " when israelites are doing the shooting. Or when Biden said he saw the evidence for rape of Israelis and even Israeli military, media tried to find ONE case of rape and failed.
              Or when Soros stops funding his morbid groups only in one single location - Israel.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Based.

          It's my belief the more unethical the country, the better the guns are. For example, Turkish crimes are pretty minor in the grand scheme of things so their guns suck. Meanwhile the Italians commit a crime against humanity by merely continuing to exist, therefore they make great guns

          ULTRA based

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I don't care about Palestine. Why do israelites always schiz out like this? Must be all the inbreeding. All I said is that if you own a tavor that you're gay and moronic. You're just proving the validity of that statement.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.wikiarms.com/guns?q=688218829288

    I am buying an AUG and there is nothing u homies can do about it HAHAHA

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Steyr is so shit that they got bought by a foreign investment company, enjoy your snapped stock and badly nitrided barrel kek.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Don't buy a US made one and you're good. Words to live by, really.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >got bought by a foreign investment company

        you say that as if this type of tomfoolery isn't an everyday thing. stfu Black person

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >mentions tools of violence when I am telling you that you are a net negative contributor
    Hahaha yeah go back you fricking /misc/troon tourist. You have completely exposed yourself.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >tools of violence
    b***h THIS IS /k/ LMFAO

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      /k/ - psychopathic Bronze Age cult LARPing

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        /k/ weapons you fricking war tourist
        Post a single gun. Hell, a single round of ammunition.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          /k/ - mental illnesses

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are all israelis just fascist drones that have nothing to them beyond money and the state?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >cant talk about bullpups cause the IDF uses one

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Aren't they adoptiong an AR15 platform?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Well you've got to make use of all that free stuff goy. And they're so cheap these days.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          wat? they've used ARs for decades.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Only two brigades. The three largest brigades as well as reserves are sticking with the tavor

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    To satisfy the bloodlust of 200cm tall Croatian mountain chads

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the primary goal of bullpups should be making the rifle as light and compact as possible, because it will always function and handle worse than an AR

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the primary goal of bullpups should be making the rifle as light and compact as possible
      >puts a 5 pound scope on it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        a 25oz scope

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >always function ... worse than an AR
      Short rifles are better.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Short rifles are better.

        at what?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          CQB and vehicle combat such as security.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Carrying and living with. No one likes muskets

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    short overall length gun with the mass further back making it better for getting in and out of vehicles and handling inside buildings while maintaining barrel length. Turns out the fricked up trigger, lack of rail space, issues with reliability and ergonomics made everyone realize bullpups are shit and are generally not worth the tradeoffs. france ditched their bullpups, the uk ditched their bullpups, the israelites never really used their bullpups outside of a few units

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >.t Hop subscriber
      Get some opinions of your own dipshit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        if bullpups were good, people would use them

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Bullpups are more popular now than theyve ever been you dumb Black person.
          You dont have to like them, the market doesnt revolve around what you like.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >.t Hop subscriber
            Get some opinions of your own dipshit.

            and no first world country uses them because they are shit

            >the uk ditched their bullpups

            they are moving on from their shitty gun to an AR clone

            >outside of a few units
            Bro three brigades use it
            The idf only has 5 brigades total

            3/5ths of the israeli army do not use tavors. the most common rifle used by the israelites AR M16/AR variants. Usually either colt carbines or sawn of A1s

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The only thing that matters is the American consumer market you brain dead thirdy.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm a white American and I don't own a bullpup since I'm not a brown homosexual from india like you are. I've never seen a single person irl with a bullpup

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Thats because you dont shoot your guns.
                Nice PSA lmao.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I shoot my guns. that isn't even your gun, thirdy

                >they are moving on from their shitty gun to an AR clone
                No they aren't.

                yeah they are, lmt

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >lmt
                They've been using those since before the fricking US was you moron.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                and they are adopting them for their whole army you dickless brown cuck

                https://i.imgur.com/Ab8wQOz.jpeg

                Im lichrally at the range right now gay boy.
                You clearly cant afford ammo.

                that's someone else's pic brown boi

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >they are adopting them for their whole army
                No they aren't. They're continuing to buy them for SF, the same as they've been don't since the 60s, along with H&K and frankly anything else those guys want for the job at hand.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                *doing

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No they arent you moron, the Royal Marines are grtting KS1 rifles the Army proper is continuing to use the L85A3 for the foreseeable future.
                This is the exact level of cope id expect from a PSA owner so it all checks out.

                https://armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2024/uk-initiates-replacement-of-sa80-assault-rifle-in-british-army
                they are replacing the la85s because they are shitty due to being bullpups also you are brown and have no dick

                Because anons like to think that when they blow a months pay on a PSA theyre getting the same rifle as some elite unit, theyre too poor to shoot, too poor to buy anything other than a PSA.
                See
                [...]

                >third world no guns seethes over imagined PSA

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >dont believe your lying eyes
                I see a fake acog and a psa lel.
                You have a brownoids rifle because you have a brownoids income.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                its a real acog, something you can't afford, airshitter

                >Project Grayburn
                Was initiated 4 months ago and no weapon has been selected.
                Congrats youre moronic.

                You're mentally moronic. No new L85s are being made or have been made for decades, that's an ongoing evaluation for replacements when they're too shagged out to use. They're not being taken out of service until they die.
                Also what kind of paki AI websites do you get your news from, jesus fricking christ.

                >no they aren't replacing their shitty bullpups even though they announced they are replacing their shitty bullpups
                the state of third worlders on /k/

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                My dude you are a special kind of stupid. Yes you replace a gun when it's worn out. No they aren't replacing guns in service with ARs.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                shit was worn out the second they got it because bullpups always have been and always will be complete shit

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You're mentally moronic. No new L85s are being made or have been made for decades, that's an ongoing evaluation for replacements when they're too shagged out to use. They're not being taken out of service until they die.
                Also what kind of paki AI websites do you get your news from, jesus fricking christ.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Project Grayburn
                Was initiated 4 months ago and no weapon has been selected.
                Congrats youre moronic.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No they arent you moron, the Royal Marines are grtting KS1 rifles the Army proper is continuing to use the L85A3 for the foreseeable future.
                This is the exact level of cope id expect from a PSA owner so it all checks out.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Im lichrally at the range right now gay boy.
                You clearly cant afford ammo.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >they are moving on from their shitty gun to an AR clone
              No they aren't.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >goalposts: changed
              >ass: blasted
              >dick:sucked
              >cum: swallowed
              Yep, it's conventioBlack person time

              https://i.imgur.com/ivYjyrw.jpeg

              I'm a white American and I don't own a bullpup since I'm not a brown homosexual from india like you are. I've never seen a single person irl with a bullpup

              >Poverty State
              I'm surprised you can even afford electricity to shitpost. No wonder you don't like bullpups, you can't afford em!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you are brown and that is the only reason you like bullpups, because you are brown and have no guns. I could buy a bullpup if I wanted to, but I am not gay and prefer to own guns that work

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I think it’s the guys who can only afford 1 cheap AR who mald out in every thread.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You suck brown wiener, and that is why you like conventional guns. They are just as long and hard as the penises you work on. You couldn't buy a bullpup anyways, considering you blow your pay (and your load) on gigolos.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          People do use bullpups. The rest are subhumans who cannot or will not switch to a superior platform because of a lack of adaptability.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            literally zero humans use bullpups

            >good
            Say what you mean, cheap.

            they aren't good, they have shit triggers and are unreliable

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >unreliable
              The Tavor is utterly reliable, I've never had it choke once in thousands of rounds.
              I did have an RFB and it was a jam-o-matic piece of shit, but that's because it's a Keltec, not because it's a bullpup

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >tavor
                brown israelite detected

                I think it’s the guys who can only afford 1 cheap AR who mald out in every thread.

                you can literally see a second AR in one of the pics I posted, pajeet. Plus there is an acog on it

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >literally zero humans use bullpups
              Naturally, only gods and supermen can handle bullpups, everyone else is too mentally invalid to know that the magazine is behind the grip this time. I wager you're a conventioBlack person yourself

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                nah, only thirdies use bullpups, not humans

                You suck brown wiener, and that is why you like conventional guns. They are just as long and hard as the penises you work on. You couldn't buy a bullpup anyways, considering you blow your pay (and your load) on gigolos.

                brown boi and his tiny wiener is mad as frick no one else wants his shitty bullpup

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >.t PSA owner

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you can literally see the roll mark in one of the pics and it isn't psa, pajeet

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                no one cares about your poverty ar juan

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                pajeet be mad because no one wants his third word bullpup that doesn't work

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >can't operate a bullpup
                yep that's your third world moronation again pedro

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I can operate a bullpup, I just would never buy or use one since they don't work and are moronic and no human uses one and you don't have a penis

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >can't operate a bullpup
                >immediately starts thinking about dicks
                >poverty ar cope
                lmao juan pedro

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You are gay 🙂

                notice how the pajeets have at no point tried to argue that bullpups are good, they just call all humans poor or gay even though no one wants a bullpup since bullpups are shit

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >mad you can't afford anything but psa trash
                lmao

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/NkrRXOW.png

                Youve spent days in the same thread unprompted kvetching about bullpups with your poorgay rifle, no one itt started shitting on ARs and no one itt said shit about you until you posted your poverty rifle and shit up the thread accusing everyone of being a pajeet.
                Get your ass back to your Ukraine thread you fricking tourist.

                I own only conventional rifles atm, and every one of them is better than anything you own Juanito.

                the acog is more than your pajeet village makes in a year. I have a comp rifle that was almost $2,000. you are seething because you have no guns and because no one wants bullpups

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Keep coping lol. Wont make your PSA a KAC or your Amazog ACOG real.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >pajeet is so poor his airshit fake AR doesn't even have a stock

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Youre a broken record anon, the cope is delicious though lmao

                Lets see a picture of your gay ass competition rifle so I can mog that one too.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >reddit spacing
                >has no stock
                >has no gun
                >has no penis
                >is brown
                >liked gaypups

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Jej effort posting cope is something else my man.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                nta but
                >I have a comp rifle that was almost $2,000.
                OK.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                what is this indian piece of garbage with a mall ninja grip? Looks like this gay shit can't fire a single round

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >what is this indian piece of garbage with a mall ninja grip? Looks like this gay shit can't fire a single round
                This is too obvious bait. You're not even trying at this point. Or else you're just that seething I guess.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Hes 100% sharting his pants about his poverty yes.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Certified nogunz

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So did your posts get baleeted for you being an abject trolling moron or because you're a foreigner posting noguns shit elsewhere?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Youve spent days in the same thread unprompted kvetching about bullpups with your poorgay rifle, no one itt started shitting on ARs and no one itt said shit about you until you posted your poverty rifle and shit up the thread accusing everyone of being a pajeet.
                Get your ass back to your Ukraine thread you fricking tourist.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                nah, only thirdies use bullpups, not humans
                [...]
                brown boi and his tiny wiener is mad as frick no one else wants his shitty bullpup

                >mad cuz bad
                >Sore cuz poor
                The eternal PSA owner. You wouldnt be buying long guns to compensate if your "gun" was long, pindick. Maybe you can buy those gas station dick pills if you stopped buying shitrods instead

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You are gay 🙂

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                nta but you would also be the same moron commenting how someone else "overpaid for trash"

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                that's what a poverty ar is you moron
                expensive trash

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >that's what a poverty ar is you moron
                thats a cute joke, but you know what I mean moron.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao cope

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >mfw pajeet can't read and thinks his airshit bullpup is a real gun

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I own only conventional rifles atm, and every one of them is better than anything you own Juanito.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >PSA owner calling others thirdies
                Kek! How are those malaria nets working out for you? Maybe when your nation rises above the poverty line you can finally afford a real gun like a X95 or AUG.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >X95
                Imagine being moronic lol
                >AUG
                A good rifle

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >AUG
                >a good rifle
                Even breaks apart in two for easy transport, waow!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >good
          Say what you mean, cheap.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the uk ditched their bullpups

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >outside of a few units
      Bro three brigades use it
      The idf only has 5 brigades total

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >what is the purpose of X
    ask yourself what its design lends itself to, then think about it for a bit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The design is an AR in a shit caliber with worse ergonomics but just as expensive. There isn't really anything to think about.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >5.56
        >a shit caliber
        Okay armchair general. I don't believe you own guns.
        >worse ergonomics
        that's entirely down to training

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i feel like the best usage for bullpups are bolt action rifles, specially ones meant for long distance/accurate use. example: like the DSR-1, its a very decently sized platform that isnt too big but is still a good performer

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >bolt action rifles

      Desert Tech didn't have the sense to make their straight pull and lost contracts as a result.s

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Desert Tech didn't have the sense to make their straight pull and lost contracts as a result.
        Never heard of that, and I'm dubious. I think the only made American straight pull at all is the savage impulse, the military and police forces don't use them at all. Europe has always been their niche but even there it's a niche. They're simpler to operate of course and cool but they're also more complex mechanically, and in turn less rugged, heavier, harder to clean, slightly harder/slower to work with ime, and more expensive (not that that matters in DT's case since all their shit is super expensive). Who the heck would be contracting with DT over a straight pull of all things? The SRS and HTI are used and well liked in Ukraine but that's about it isn't it?

        Straight pull is also almost all the way to semiauto. In Europe where legislation makes that category more restrictive can see more of an attraction, but in the US manufacturers can just make it semi.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          DT has only ever had military adoption of their bolt actions afaik.
          Georgia was the first major contract they ever had, but like most other precision rifles they have more success with SWAT/police units.
          The HTI is probably the highest value big bore rifle on the market right now, really not that expensive for a 50.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's what I thought, so where is this "they lost a bunch of contracts due to lack of straight pull" thing coming from?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              This

              From the depths of hia AIDs ridden ass.
              The DT rifle didnt lose to a straight pull rifle, nor was it a program requirement or request.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry, I'm just genuinely both ignorant of and interested in what

                From the depths of hia AIDs ridden ass.
                The DT rifle didnt lose to a straight pull rifle, nor was it a program requirement or request.

                >The DT rifle didnt lose to a straight pull rifle, nor was it a program requirement or request.
                program this is talking about. I know about NGSW of course but that's a completely different thing and they weren't a serious contender. I'm just wondering what they were competing for with the SRS or HTI, if it was something special. If it was just bog standard "we're looking for precision long range rifles" from some military or SWAT then whatever, obviously there are tons of excellent options on that front and I'd expect DT to win a few and lose most if only due to being small. I do like their manuals though they've never quite seemed to be able to nail down their autos.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                For USSOCOM trials, if i remember correctly they ended up choosing a barret mrad.
                Cartridge was the .338 norma magnum

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks anon, and makes sense. I really like my SRS so far but Barret of course has a ton of military experience and capacity, be riskier to go with some relatively new, small, and less stable operation like DT.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Id be lying if I said I wasnt salty about it, the SRS and HTI are cool af.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Id be lying if I said I wasnt salty about it, the SRS and HTI are cool af.
                Don't have any experience with the HTI but if it's anything like the SRS then yeah, it's definitely cool, and also enjoyable and performs well. It's a great gun.

                But the military has other considerations then just the gun in terms of deploying as an organization and being able to count on it being around. And it's not like it won't do fine without a mil contract. I'm saltier about NGSW because that would have been a chance for the mil to genuinely push forwards the start of the art with poly ammo and jumpstart a major improvement. That program was just really fricking mismanaged which is a real shame.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                NGSW was a disaster, im not even mad the rm277 didnt get selected only that NIG yet again lobbying their way into another undeserved contract.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Contract procurement for small arma has been fundamentally fricked in the head ever since the M320 was adopted

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Probably part of the problem is current doctrine just doesn't take it very seriously, nor things like infantry load. So it doesn't have some of the correcting incentives that other areas do, and mediocre stuff isn't given much attention. I think there is some mounting recognition/pressure to change it but not there yet, and it's possible it never will be if brass thinks infantry roles are going to be phased out in the near-ish future.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >le straight pull is better!

        i have a k31 and i can assure you its not better.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          but straight pull lets you ADS while cycling the bolt
          its like you don't even quickscope

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            only works if you spin jump 360deg first and I'm not a gymnast

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Source? Where did you hear this?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          From the depths of hia AIDs ridden ass.
          The DT rifle didnt lose to a straight pull rifle, nor was it a program requirement or request.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bullpups are fricking gay

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    scamming people and tricking them into buying bad guns circa 2000-2014

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shorter and weight balanced closer to the shoulder.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bullpups are the future

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think they are neat.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This shit needs to evolve faster, then AR only gays will see the light.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what model/brand is this? I'm aware it is not a famas

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A3 triad

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Something for noguns European gun engineers to cum over because it min-maxes on the specifications sheet, even if they suck IRL.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's so you can say bullpup. It's a cool ass word and you gays know it.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    killing

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Too many israelite guns and not enough AUGs in this thread

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Frickin A

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/RDVrM4l.jpeg

      Frickin A

      Bros

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It pups the bull.
    Next question please.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They take it in the rear.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    FN just posted this after not acknowledging the FS2000 for years and it's only 1 day until NRAAM, I think its coming back.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      PLEASE GOD PLEASE.
      >Tavor owner who wants the boat gun

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Someone is also developing an AR-15 FCG trigger pack for the FS2000 too which makes me think maybe they might have some information that we don't, information as in a possible return of the FS2000 to the market.

        https://www.fnforum.net/threads/fs2000-ar-15-fcg-trigger-pack.233015/

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Increased operational mobility in mechanized and urban environments without sacrificing ballistic capability

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    To make morons on /k/ argue incessantly.

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It looks cool. Ultimately it's useless though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why have none of the ak bullpups really taken off? I know conversions usually arent great but someone mustve made a good one by now. Its been around for 60+ years.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Ukrainians have the Malyuk conversion, which is probably the only AK that I like the appearance of. They took regular AK-74s and rebuilt them from the ground up, and apparently they're surprisingly accurate and comfortable shooting. Mostly saw use with special forces before fancier western weapons came through.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Do they use them rn?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            they use the hti also, but they'll use anything they got

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    To look cool mostly. Also to inspire shit threads and even shittier posts from people that have no clue what they're talking about

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why is it that some people are so vocal about their hatred of bullpups?
    Exposing myself as a noguns but I don't really get it, a gun is a gun right?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bear in mind these same people have managed to convince themselves that the AR's cope handle is ergonomic perfection and totally the normal way to do things.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Because anons like to think that when they blow a months pay on a PSA theyre getting the same rifle as some elite unit, theyre too poor to shoot, too poor to buy anything other than a PSA.
        See
        [...]

        /v/ermin crossboarders who engage in console and game wars come here to do the exact same thing to try and seem intelligent and cultured

        https://i.imgur.com/PPItw2p.jpeg

        Some people have entrenched their personality to their rifle, to admit any other gun may do certain things better than theirs (even if there's a tradeoff) is something they cannot accept. Their rifle is perfect at everything, for it to be anything less is blasphemy. Same reason people are so butthurt about the M7 and screaming from the rooftops that it's the next M14 and will be replaced by another AR

        Is there anything mechanically different about them compared to a conventional firearm that would cause so much seethe? More unreliable or weird ergonomics, or is it just a psychological thing?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          they are inherently less mechanically reliable because they need a transfer bar to the trigger and because you generally have shitty access to the trigger if there is a jam

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            [...]
            [...]
            Is there anything mechanically different about them compared to a conventional firearm that would cause so much seethe? More unreliable or weird ergonomics, or is it just a psychological thing?

            shitty access to the chamber* not the trigger

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            shitty access to the chamber* not the trigger

            >catastrophic jam
            >AR: pull out your pocket knife or whatever to try & get shit out of the chamber
            >AK: either do similar or disassemble it for access
            >AUG: Remove the barrel for access.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              you can pop one pin an have complete access to an AR chamber, pajeet

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry son, theres a reason why your shitheap was ditched asap for AKs in nam.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                there is a reason why no first world country uses bullpups, pajeeet

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >fox
                >grapes
                Cope, Rope.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I literally have an acog and a comp gun that costs over a grand. I could buy a bullpup if I wanted. I don't want to because all bullpups are bad

                aug

                augs aren't used by any first world nation

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                austria
                australia

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                neither of those are first world countries

                >ARs are so shit they got soldiers killed in 'Nam

                >the product has not improved in 50 years

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                aug

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                But it's still literally easier to get something out of the aug barrel chamber if you just pull it off, more room to work with

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                its literally easier to pop one pin on an AR

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Pop the pin, remove the BCG out of the way then claw out the jammed cartridge out of the chamber.*
                Vs just locking the charging handle back, pulling the barrel off & pulling jammed cartridge out.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >augs are so shit rounds routinely get stuck in the chamber during a stoppage

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >ARs are so shit they got soldiers killed in 'Nam

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Nothing significant in a combat rifle. You probably wouldn't take one to a competition unless you were trying to make a point.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Interesting cope, post PSA.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So the primary thing is simply that on the normal rifle side things lucked out with the AR and an incredibly standardized, available for all pattern emerged that then ran with normal market network effects, so now you get enormous variety, customization, and refinement at a good value. That's hard for ANYTHING else to compete with, conventional or not. That said:
          >More unreliable
          No, no inherent differences in reliability.
          >or weird ergonomics, or is it just a psychological thing?
          Bullpups definitely have different "ergos" (manual of arms). There is nothing "weird" about them per se, they're just different, but most people have enormous amounts of muscle memory built up around ARs. They'll definitely feel "weird" in that case. That's not a justification for seethe per se but it is a reason someone might pick one up and immediately declare it sucks without really giving it much of a chance.

          Bullpups are somewhat harder to make good triggers for, and for various historical reasons while they started getting experimented with very early they didn't get a ton of market interest until very very late. That makes them relatively unrefined. And like non-AR conventional patterns, they aren't standardized. Each company is its own design. That's fun for variety, but you lose out on market flexibility and support and pricing. They're more expensive. And there's no perfectly refined semi-one. There are various superb manual ones, but those are VERY expensive.

          To go back to your original question, the answer is: No. No, it's doesn't really make sense why some /arg/gays go apeshit. It definitely makes sense why someone would evaluate them and say "ARs are better value and perform better for what I want" though.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe a rise in bullpup AR kits will help them rise in popularity and quell AR guys' distaste.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Maybe a rise in bullpup AR kits will help them rise in popularity and quell AR guys' distaste.
              Might I suppose, be a halfway point, but their crazy over it isn't rational in the first place so who knows. I think kits though but ultimately just plain time and refinement will ultimately be what does it, people believe in results and the modern set of auto bullpups is, by gun standards, relatively new. With manual bullpups there isn't the same shitposting because there are examples that perform as well as anything else in the world, and while very expensive so are high end conventional designs. But as much as I like them, I don't think right now I can point at a "perfect" semi auto bullpup to buy, at any price. All of them have their strengths and weaknesses, either because of the design or because of the company that makes them. There is cool tech coming together, you can see all the various pieces in different places, but it's not in one package (let alone multiple ones) yet, and there are the normal unlucky setbacks. The F2000 eject system is really interesting for example, and the RM277 did a bunch of cool stuff, the former missed in other ways and the latter didn't get selected due to the LMG and then went down in flames on the civilian side due to typical corporate bullshit.

              I think even another 5 years will be very interesting though, feels like there is starting to be a critical mass of interest and momentum. Time will tell I guess, but I'm happy in the mean time.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because anons like to think that when they blow a months pay on a PSA theyre getting the same rifle as some elite unit, theyre too poor to shoot, too poor to buy anything other than a PSA.
      See

      https://i.imgur.com/ivYjyrw.jpeg

      I'm a white American and I don't own a bullpup since I'm not a brown homosexual from india like you are. I've never seen a single person irl with a bullpup

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      /v/ermin crossboarders who engage in console and game wars come here to do the exact same thing to try and seem intelligent and cultured

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Some people have entrenched their personality to their rifle, to admit any other gun may do certain things better than theirs (even if there's a tradeoff) is something they cannot accept. Their rifle is perfect at everything, for it to be anything less is blasphemy. Same reason people are so butthurt about the M7 and screaming from the rooftops that it's the next M14 and will be replaced by another AR

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The xm7 is a peice of shit and I will be vindicated.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >it's the next M14
        It has the same issues, it's going to be funny watching 4' Mexicans and women control full auto.
        >will be replaced by another AR
        I can see it, US Army small arms is that kind of shit show. NATO should really have told them to frick off when they started it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >inb4 b b but but but this competitve woman shooter can control the XM7 in full auto just fine!!!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Can't afford a bullpup for fun?
      Convinved that they can only use ARs or AKs by leviathan tribe guntubers?
      ????
      Idk bullpups exist
      Anons use/enjoy them, probably along with an AR/AK/etc.
      And other anons just cry, piss, shit & cum themselves over it for no good reason.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bullpups are the infantryman's rifle. Turns out that LARPing SHTFers are too sensitive and whine about shit like 'muh trigger' and 'why can't I fit fifteen attachments on the rails' rather than the actual practical use of the things.
      No infantryman is going to give a FRICK how sensitive his trigger is as long as it works. Leave that to marksmen and glowies.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        bullpups aren't even infantry. its the israelites use mostly AR carbines, but in theory their bullpups are for the mechanized infantry, guys who ride mounted and have to get in and out of vehicles

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          In this day and age, any well-equipped infantry force is already mechanised.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Bullpups are the infantryman's rifle
        Yup. Having a 20" barrel shooting 3200fps in a compact configuration that allows you to easily use it from vehicle/CQB to long range shit is absolutely wonderful. The AR is an amazing rifle tho which is why that min/maxing shit it can do is utilized by special forces. Everyone else gets the bullpup.
        This is obviously also the same opinion of many countries.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Mostly a reaction to the bullpup crowd who used to be larger back in the day and who used to cheer them on as being the future of firearms design.

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Size and thats about it.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what's the best bullpup anyway? i might just buy one because i suck penises with special attention to the hole and ridge around the head

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      K and M M17S, now you can frick women as God intended

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Would you a semi-auto Famas for $10000+?
    https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/177312999_extraordinary-high-condition-and-exceptionally

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I've always found the FAMAS to be hideous

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >fricked up trigger, lack of rail space, issues with reliability
    Not unique to bullpups.

    >ergonomics
    >countries ditching bullpups
    Skill issue

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bringing the heavy mechanism closer to you. Why it failed? In real scenarios you put your magazine on the ground and aim from there. Nobody shoots on foot.

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not sure which thought is more sad
    Multiple anons seething that people can enjoy bullpups
    Or
    It's just one turbo-autist
    I guess if it was one then maybe we could chalk it up to a autism freakout.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's definitely multiple, /arg/ in general is a shithole and for honestly mysterious reasons a lot of them are unironically triggered by bullpups. While it's not a regular occurrence we have had /bpg/ bullpup generals a few times a year that overall are pretty comfy and fun. But every single time there are anons who feel the need to click on the thread and tell everyone how bad bullpups are (no they've never used one). Back when you could see post count, and just in quantity, it was clearly more than one person. You see it on youtube comments and shit as well.

      Dunno, it really is kinda weird. Not like the AR isn't utterly dominant over everything and won't remain so, they're in no danger of losing market support.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's like the "shotguns are obsolete" meme, it's just morons posturing as knowledgeable and experienced with firearms. It's a broad statement with no nuance that would require you to know anything in order to support.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You could say the inverse too. I didn't realize how many dudes (or just one) absolutely HATE and are sperging out about bullpups. Arguably more than any other type of firearm

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's what he's saying.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >i can't fricking read
          i think i need more sleep

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    doing what an adjustable stock does but a gorillion times more expensive

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I'm sorry you got btfo so hard satan by all american.

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is the worst thread on /k/ right now, and that is saying something

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not even remotely close. Go back to /arg/.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What do you mean not even close, it's literally two morons insulting each other

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    short gun but long barrel

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you mean the bestpup?

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Short gun long barrel trigger bar

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Standard length barrel in a shorter rifle configuration. Better balanced and easier to handle than a conventional rifle but trigger pull tends to be worse due transfer bar and controls are not as "refined" (you could say) as an AR.
    Bullpup development hasn't advanced much since AR's have been the golden standard for a long time but there's definitely lots of potential

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    very nice to hold and aim, long barrel while keeping it relatively short (fits larger backpack, no need to use rifle bag), in case of my meme keltec - excellent supressor host, cheap as frick even in pooland (paid around 1k250 for mine, keep in mind we pay 25% tax on almost everything and guns are expensive here anyway - acceptable-quality AR that isnt chinky costs 2.5k usd and up here ), and easy/fun to mod, eats any cheap ammo I feed it, and if i break anything it can be either replaced cheaply or i can buy another one.

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dominance. Think about it. Getting killed by someone using a bullup is a real power move. You could have been shot and killed by a good weapon, something respectable, but there you are, blasted by trash. In that regard your ego is also blasted to shit, so really the bullpup is killing you twice over.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It is powerful enough to embed seethe into the minds of internet dwellers who aren't even near the battlefield. Meanwhile the British serviceman behind the trigger remains unaware that any butthurt is generated.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Another factor. Well overlooked. If you have a nice day with something so shit as a bullpup you effectively achieve true ego-death and ascend the crushing wheel of Samara.

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honor. Think about it. Getting killed by someone using a bullup is a truly honorable end. You could have been shot and killed by some obsolete poverty-tier weapon, something pathetic like anAR, but there you are, blasted by the gun equivalent of a fine Japanese katana. In that regard you can face your ancestors with pride, so really the bullpup is killing you and respecting you.

  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >all this malding because bullpups exist
    There is a higher concentration of autism in hobbyist groups than any other population. It shows in the gun community when these underbullied homosexuals seethe because not every gun utilizes AR controls. I want an AUG now. Reminder that the “people” who stim about bullpups being shit are also the Black folk who demand every PCC takes Glock mags (or they argue that PCCs aren’t relevant in their epic combat fantasy headcanon)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Was amusing though earlier in the thread when that ARsperg was bragging about his "almost $2k comp gun" and accusing everyone else of being indians. Not that more money is better, there's nothing wrong with cheap fun guns and ARs can offer a lot of bang for the buck, but have some self awareness man jesus.

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