Not because Russia is running out of missiles though. They're just expending old missiles for practice. Russia only keeps stockpiles of munitions well within their expiration date as to be ready for Hato forces
Their offensive is running out of steam, and tehy're still not done in Bakhmut.
Georgian people gave them the finger, and several western economic journals pointed out that the Russian economy is absolutely not doing well.
Of course the kremlin Kope Farms are in overdrive. Pic vaguely related.
i wonder if prighozin getting whacked would decrease the amount of glavset dogshit ? would IR continue if he got removed or would it just all fall apart ?
Ok but seriously, how much longer are they going to keep doing this?
It has been shown to have no impact on the military, it's warming up now and it didn't cause civilians to freak out during winter, and there is a finite supply of missiles.
The trend has been that the gaps between barrages has been getting bigger and bigger over time so they are obviously starting to ration the missiles
They're just having a little proxie war to burn up old stock to be replaced by new production to try to get the global economy going again after the covid shutdown.
>What if HATO does invade?
They stopped caring about only using shit "allotted for the invasion" quite some time ago.
People in charge of shit pretty much decided that not being held responsible for hindering the Special Needs Operation (likely by defenestration) is preferable to trying to preserve at least a semblance of Russia's defensive capabilities.
(tl;dr: everyone decided that Russia being unable to defend itself is Not My Problem™)
>People in charge of shit pretty much decided that not being held responsible for hindering the Special Needs Operation (likely by defenestration) is preferable to trying to preserve at least a semblance of Russia's defensive capabilities.
Anon, it's more that nobody in Russia for a very long time has ACTUALLY felt any threat from NATO. It's just lies and propaganda. They know they have plenty of nukes, and that even if 95% of them are defective now the West (since it actually gives a shit about its citizens) is a lot more risk averse these days and wouldn't tolerate risking a single major city to launch a land invasion of somewhere as worthless as snowgeria, unless they used nukes first and it became unavoidable.
That's part of why it's so ludicrously corrupt and defective, it's because the military is just for parades and bullying weaker neighbors. In fact, the powers that be have long seen the military as a bigger THREAT to them then anything in NATO, because militaries throughout history have been the traditional source of coups when things get shitty enough. If you look at how Russia has allocated resources for a while now, it's obvious where their priorities are: a lot of the best tech, people, and money has gone to putin's praetorian guard of internal security, while the military gets filled with mindless stupid loyalists with no qualifications. Putin and other kleptocrats are worried about internal threats and suppression, not from external attack.
Of course that becomes a problem if you want to start actually using that military for force projection for real. They drank their own koolaid on that one.
>Anon, it's more that nobody in Russia for a very long time has ACTUALLY felt any threat from NATO.
Of course they didn't, but even the biggest corrupt fuckup in RF military's top brass would have agreed that there is a need to preserve certain, if minimal, standards of combat readiness for at least the first echelon troops, and not sell off ALL of the equipment they have or embezzle ALL of the funds they're given.
That went out of the window the moment the 3 day blyatzkrieg turned into a bargain bin WWI.
>The threat from China is entirely real though.
Eh, not sure that has been a real concern for them until the 2010s, but even there they probably think their nukes are enough to dissuade the Chinese too. The bugs have issues but they've also built up a ton of infrastructure, cities and aspire to some form of civilization in theory, they don't want to lose any major cities to nukes either. And against them Russia can bring its tactical nukes to bear, not just the ICBMs. All of Russia's real remaining assets and population is primarily concentrated far away in the west too. Could be argued as a longer term worry but Russians aren't exactly good at thinking longer term.
Of course it might affect their thinking in terms of using nukes offensively. If China had the actual excuse/reason they certainly have incentives to make use of it, so that could be an extra dissuader and push them to invade georgia or something instead for cope purposes.
>And the way things are going, a North Korean invasion is not looking that unlikely in a few years.
Is it really?
Their entire system subside entirely on filtering reality out.
One reason they have so few pilot is because most would be educated enough to flee to another country.
I can only imagine the NK soldier arriving in a SK city and discovering untold amount of wealth that would make Orc's pillaging TV look insignificant. From what I hear, most of the population don't know what a smartphone is, and I'm only assuming they know what a portable phone is because they have a blackmarket for that and propaganda explaining their great leader invented the thing or something.
Also NK probably guessed by now that China would rather take control of their country than let them start another war.
There was a Forbes article about exactly this, but for a previous strike. According to a Ukrainian source, their numbers were wildly wrong, but they still get copied around the internet and on Wikipedia: https://en.defence-ua.com/news/what_is_the_real_price_of_russian_missiles_about_the_cost_of_kalibr_kh_101_and_iskander_missiles-4709.html
With that out of the way, better unit price estimates according to the article above are:
Kalibr: 300,000-350,000 USD
Kh-555: 300,000-350,000 USD
Kh-101: "a bit more expensive", maybe 400,000-450,000 USD? No number was given in the article
X-22 (Kh-22): impossible to estimate
Kh-47: not discussed in the article. A very modern missile, so probably the most expensive on the list (in my amateur opinion)
Kh-31P: 550,000 USD (2010); source: wikipedia
Kh-59: 600,000 USD; source: military-today.com
S-300 missile: this is imprecise, as the S-300 can launch many different missiles. Maybe 9M83ME? Either way, I couldn't find a cost.
Shahed: 10,000-50,000 USD
Adjusting older numbers for inflation and doing basic arithmetic is left as an exercise to the reader.
>did hit some power plants
Baffles me what they are even trying to accomplish at this point. The winter is over and there are no power issues in Ukraine.
You just don't get the extent of russian genius, they know that neither ukraine or its decadent western handlers expect to be frozen in relatively warm weather, so attacking in march catches them off guard. Just like they didn't expect gas disruptions in fucking april
civilian commie blocks and some minor power plant/electricity transformers.
Im starting to think that throwing this stuff into regular ukrainian trenches would be more efficient
Its rouble so a million million. Given tyhey can't hit anything and are basically crude flying washing machines I would say the princely sum of 17 lada rivas with wheels 10 of which can start.
> 13 x S-300
You can use the S-300 missile in a ground-to-ground mode but it seems pants-on-head retarded to burn an anti-air asset to bounce some rubble. > Red Army: turning rubles into rubble
Question, I heard they had launched "supersonic missile" but... the only fast missiles here are the "Kinzal" isn't it?
So basically it's the same as last time except this time they added 6x of their "wonder missile" into the mix?
One of these missiles (as far as we can guess aimed at the Azov base a kilometer away) nearly smoked my frens apartment, and successfully blew up a mail courier service across the parking lot. Must have been a Nazi mail service lmao
Interesting! Where do you live anon? Could you tell me a bit more about that Azov base in your area? Where is it located in terms of direction and distance compared to that mail courier service?
Interesting. I was just thinking about how everyone shits their pants about the money "wasted" by the U.S. military during live fire exercises. When in reality they're just using up old missiles.
My bro literally none of this shit is USSR manufactured.
They're bleeding themselves dry blowing up substations in Kiev that are back online in 1-4 days and have zero military significance whatsoever.
The missiles will continue to rain down on oinkraine until you give up and turn away from globohomo and come to the warm embrace of mother bear. We're not doing this to hurt you our brothers but to show HATO that we won't allow any of their soldiers and military on our borders without our consent.
Around tree fiddy
0 since soviets built them 35 years ago
These missiles need to be replenished if Russia wants to keep using them
Also, Kinzhals started production in 2017
kinzhals are a meme
Last kalibr remains around kiev had parts manufactured in 2020
I was told this was one of the biggest strikes of the war and it’s not even a hundred missiles?
They seem to be rationing them
hey, that's going to hurt their feelings
they had to stockpile missiles for two months for this chimpout
Plus
>13 S300
Are we serious guys?
>They’re using S-300s in their ground attack mode again
Kek
Not because Russia is running out of missiles though. They're just expending old missiles for practice. Russia only keeps stockpiles of munitions well within their expiration date as to be ready for Hato forces
>Plus
>>13 S300
>Are we serious guys?
>
>>They’re using S-300s in their ground attack mode again
>Kek
for reasons
All aimed at civilian infrastructure, of course
Around half a billion USD.
military value: 0.0
Russia seems to be really mad. shillcon status today is also raised.
Their offensive is running out of steam, and tehy're still not done in Bakhmut.
Georgian people gave them the finger, and several western economic journals pointed out that the Russian economy is absolutely not doing well.
Of course the kremlin Kope Farms are in overdrive. Pic vaguely related.
i wonder if prighozin getting whacked would decrease the amount of glavset dogshit ? would IR continue if he got removed or would it just all fall apart ?
>several western economic journals pointed out
got some links bro? I wanna read em
nta, but:
https://www.econlib.org/jeff-sonnenfelds-bombshell-about-the-russian-economy/
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/impact-sanctions-russian-economy/
https://fortune.com/2023/03/06/imf-naively-parroted-putin-fake-statisticsand-botched-economic-forecast-russia-ukraine/
Thanks!!
Yearly budget of two russian regions.
which two regions?
Pskov and Smolensk will fit for sure.
>Anyone who isn't European giving this much of a fuck is mentally ill
FTFY
half a day of oil-revenue
>Russia isn't running out of missiles
>takes them two months to scrounge some for a chimpout
Well, well, well
Ok but seriously, how much longer are they going to keep doing this?
It has been shown to have no impact on the military, it's warming up now and it didn't cause civilians to freak out during winter, and there is a finite supply of missiles.
The trend has been that the gaps between barrages has been getting bigger and bigger over time so they are obviously starting to ration the missiles
>8 Shahed
For what fucking purpose, bottom of the barrel leftover shit.
That's all the Iranians could give them after their factory got blown up
They're just having a little proxie war to burn up old stock to be replaced by new production to try to get the global economy going again after the covid shutdown.
What if HATO does invade? They are using up stock they can't replace. They'll be caught with their pants down.
>What if HATO does invade?
They stopped caring about only using shit "allotted for the invasion" quite some time ago.
People in charge of shit pretty much decided that not being held responsible for hindering the Special Needs Operation (likely by defenestration) is preferable to trying to preserve at least a semblance of Russia's defensive capabilities.
(tl;dr: everyone decided that Russia being unable to defend itself is Not My Problem™)
>People in charge of shit pretty much decided that not being held responsible for hindering the Special Needs Operation (likely by defenestration) is preferable to trying to preserve at least a semblance of Russia's defensive capabilities.
Anon, it's more that nobody in Russia for a very long time has ACTUALLY felt any threat from NATO. It's just lies and propaganda. They know they have plenty of nukes, and that even if 95% of them are defective now the West (since it actually gives a shit about its citizens) is a lot more risk averse these days and wouldn't tolerate risking a single major city to launch a land invasion of somewhere as worthless as snowgeria, unless they used nukes first and it became unavoidable.
That's part of why it's so ludicrously corrupt and defective, it's because the military is just for parades and bullying weaker neighbors. In fact, the powers that be have long seen the military as a bigger THREAT to them then anything in NATO, because militaries throughout history have been the traditional source of coups when things get shitty enough. If you look at how Russia has allocated resources for a while now, it's obvious where their priorities are: a lot of the best tech, people, and money has gone to putin's praetorian guard of internal security, while the military gets filled with mindless stupid loyalists with no qualifications. Putin and other kleptocrats are worried about internal threats and suppression, not from external attack.
Of course that becomes a problem if you want to start actually using that military for force projection for real. They drank their own koolaid on that one.
>Anon, it's more that nobody in Russia for a very long time has ACTUALLY felt any threat from NATO.
Of course they didn't, but even the biggest corrupt fuckup in RF military's top brass would have agreed that there is a need to preserve certain, if minimal, standards of combat readiness for at least the first echelon troops, and not sell off ALL of the equipment they have or embezzle ALL of the funds they're given.
That went out of the window the moment the 3 day blyatzkrieg turned into a bargain bin WWI.
The threat from China is entirely real though. And the way things are going, a North Korean invasion is not looking that unlikely in a few years.
>The threat from China is entirely real though.
Eh, not sure that has been a real concern for them until the 2010s, but even there they probably think their nukes are enough to dissuade the Chinese too. The bugs have issues but they've also built up a ton of infrastructure, cities and aspire to some form of civilization in theory, they don't want to lose any major cities to nukes either. And against them Russia can bring its tactical nukes to bear, not just the ICBMs. All of Russia's real remaining assets and population is primarily concentrated far away in the west too. Could be argued as a longer term worry but Russians aren't exactly good at thinking longer term.
Of course it might affect their thinking in terms of using nukes offensively. If China had the actual excuse/reason they certainly have incentives to make use of it, so that could be an extra dissuader and push them to invade georgia or something instead for cope purposes.
>And the way things are going, a North Korean invasion is not looking that unlikely in a few years.
Is it really?
Their entire system subside entirely on filtering reality out.
One reason they have so few pilot is because most would be educated enough to flee to another country.
I can only imagine the NK soldier arriving in a SK city and discovering untold amount of wealth that would make Orc's pillaging TV look insignificant. From what I hear, most of the population don't know what a smartphone is, and I'm only assuming they know what a portable phone is because they have a blackmarket for that and propaganda explaining their great leader invented the thing or something.
Also NK probably guessed by now that China would rather take control of their country than let them start another war.
how many were shut down?
I dont think any of these munitions are operational anymore anon so all of them?
Putin fails again
There was a Forbes article about exactly this, but for a previous strike. According to a Ukrainian source, their numbers were wildly wrong, but they still get copied around the internet and on Wikipedia: https://en.defence-ua.com/news/what_is_the_real_price_of_russian_missiles_about_the_cost_of_kalibr_kh_101_and_iskander_missiles-4709.html
With that out of the way, better unit price estimates according to the article above are:
Kalibr: 300,000-350,000 USD
Kh-555: 300,000-350,000 USD
Kh-101: "a bit more expensive", maybe 400,000-450,000 USD? No number was given in the article
X-22 (Kh-22): impossible to estimate
Kh-47: not discussed in the article. A very modern missile, so probably the most expensive on the list (in my amateur opinion)
Kh-31P: 550,000 USD (2010); source: wikipedia
Kh-59: 600,000 USD; source: military-today.com
S-300 missile: this is imprecise, as the S-300 can launch many different missiles. Maybe 9M83ME? Either way, I couldn't find a cost.
Shahed: 10,000-50,000 USD
Adjusting older numbers for inflation and doing basic arithmetic is left as an exercise to the reader.
>Shahed: 10,000-50,000 USD
how much is that in Su-35's?
What was the agreement for that trade again? How many Su-35's did they agree to give Iran? Was it 12?
Kinda pathetic tbh. They had to save up their stock for several weeks and 81 with 13 of them beeing S300 is all it was.
>13x s300
>s300
Did they fucking ground attack mode with them again holy shit my sides.
Sizeable warhead, fairly long range, large stockpiles, accuracy matching most of their ballistic and cruise missiles, what's not to like?
>accuracy matching most of their ballistic and cruise missiles
is he wrong though?
correction: fuckhuge stockpiles
As fuckhuge as their "MASSIVE ARTILLERY STOCKPILES" or their "THOUSANDS OF TANKS" stockpiles that turned out to be memes?
60k ROUNDS A DAY
>accuracy matching most of their ballistic and cruise missiles
so a CEP of 200m+?
This is probably due to them not wanting to commit further munitions they cannot replenish or make and are just going into stockpiles for s300.
They've nailed some civie stuff only from what I'm reading but they did hit some power plants.
>did hit some power plants
Baffles me what they are even trying to accomplish at this point. The winter is over and there are no power issues in Ukraine.
You just don't get the extent of russian genius, they know that neither ukraine or its decadent western handlers expect to be frozen in relatively warm weather, so attacking in march catches them off guard. Just like they didn't expect gas disruptions in fucking april
>cep of 200+m
Like 10x that.
That's actually more the Ukrainian forte.
>vatnik projects again
>vatnik shows video evidence
>hohol shits all over himself
Many such cases.
Video evidence of what?
Hohol IQ again.
So. What did they hit if anything.
What do they claim to have hit.
civilian commie blocks and some minor power plant/electricity transformers.
Im starting to think that throwing this stuff into regular ukrainian trenches would be more efficient
Its rouble so a million million. Given tyhey can't hit anything and are basically crude flying washing machines I would say the princely sum of 17 lada rivas with wheels 10 of which can start.
The more that hit civilians, the less that hit military equipment. Its another Blitz miracle.
> 13 x S-300
You can use the S-300 missile in a ground-to-ground mode but it seems pants-on-head retarded to burn an anti-air asset to bounce some rubble.
> Red Army: turning rubles into rubble
Question, I heard they had launched "supersonic missile" but... the only fast missiles here are the "Kinzal" isn't it?
So basically it's the same as last time except this time they added 6x of their "wonder missile" into the mix?
One of these missiles (as far as we can guess aimed at the Azov base a kilometer away) nearly smoked my frens apartment, and successfully blew up a mail courier service across the parking lot. Must have been a Nazi mail service lmao
Interesting! Where do you live anon? Could you tell me a bit more about that Azov base in your area? Where is it located in terms of direction and distance compared to that mail courier service?
A million dollars each
81 missiles is also probably about 1 month's production worth by the way
>doesn't matter
>poccnr is a rich country that will have no problem replacing modern weapons of high cost.
where are the kalibr production facilities located?
A lot but to be fair missiles don't have an infinite shelf life.
>shelf life
Anon at this point the missiles are being fired within weeks of leaving the factory.
Interesting. I was just thinking about how everyone shits their pants about the money "wasted" by the U.S. military during live fire exercises. When in reality they're just using up old missiles.
Can't put a dollar amount on the old soviet stuff since the entire USSR was a slave camp of doing everything for free. Everyone was a jannie.
pretty much, the best you can guess is export numbers but obviously that's ridiculously overinflated.
My bro literally none of this shit is USSR manufactured.
They're bleeding themselves dry blowing up substations in Kiev that are back online in 1-4 days and have zero military significance whatsoever.
The missiles will continue to rain down on oinkraine until you give up and turn away from globohomo and come to the warm embrace of mother bear. We're not doing this to hurt you our brothers but to show HATO that we won't allow any of their soldiers and military on our borders without our consent.
May God visit genocidal gang rape upon every R*ssian family
absolutely priceless
russia no longer has the means to produce any of these
they're pretty much archeotech from the bygone soviet era