What is the mid shotgun?

I don't need a fancy semi-auto, already got an M4. Don't need some turkshit pump, already got that. What is the mid pump 12g shotty? Is it still the Mossberg 590 Mariner?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah, or just a regular 500.
    Or a pre-2007 Remington 870

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >a pre-2007 Remington 870
      I don't own a shotgun, what is different about post-2007 870s?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >what is different about post-2007 870s?
        post 2007 remington went to shit and they are riddled with issues, poor QC and rust if you look them the wrong way

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Is that why Mossberg 500s are so popular now?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >now
            mossbergs have been popular ever since rem went to shit. If you want a good pump buy a mav88, if you want a better pump get a 500, if you want a cheap and reliable semiauto get a beretta a300, if you want a good reliable semiauto get the 1301 and if you want a semi tank and gucci get the benelli m4

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              1301 > m4
              I own both. Well owned, I traded the m4 for a few handguns

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >1301 > m4
                in terms of reliability and toughness nothing beats the m4 in terms of semiauto 12g

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            even when rem was good it was still a 50/50 split between the 870 and 500 you might be able to argue 45/51/4 random shit but since its release the 500 and 870 were the default shotguns.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Total mid would be a cucked toob long barrel fudd hunting/sporting shotgun. Something not specialized in anyway besides outdated trends and artificial prestige.

    That style I describe is the peak mid shotgun. Those two combinations

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Regular ass 500

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just get a mav 88

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What is the mid pump 12g shotty? Is it still the Mossberg 590 Mariner?
    Cynergy, preferably in this finish.
    >inb4 not a pump
    Do you already have an over-an-under though?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that is fricking vomitous

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well I like it, surely I'm not the only one.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I like the palette, Bondanon, but I just don't like the splotchiness.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      O/Us are already hideous, and that is the worst I've ever seen.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > O/Us are already hideous, and that is the worst I've ever seen
        Search for a company called “ruger” and see their failed line of shotguns

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't hate it, but I don't like it. Honestly its a mix of the metal color and the chokes. If they could darken it up a tad for that grassland beige I'd frick with it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm the opposite. like my initial reaction was one of pure revulsion but the longer I look at it the more I realize I'd probably really like how it feels and handles. but I still hate it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It seems like a gun I'd like for the Grasslands of South Africa for small and medium game hunting. Browning Shotties are pretty dope, comfier than most base and mid model Turkshit, American, and even some entry level Italian stuff.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It depends on your personal preference.
    870
    >steel receiver
    >cross guard safety (directly behind the trigger)
    >only guaranteed quality 870’s were made before the late 2000’s
    Mossberg
    >aluminum receiver (AR15 receivers are aluminum, keep this in mind)
    >tang safety (on top of the gun, behind the trigger)

    Both are very popular shotguns with huge aftermarket options. Both are equally reliable. They’re about the same price (except for the mossberg Maverick which is a perfectly good economy model). I’d go with the mossberg though. I like the tang safety and the fact that I don’t have to consider it’s date of manufacture in my purchasing decision.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mid pumps that come to mind are Remington 870 Police Magnums, Mossberg 590, Winchester 1300s, Mossberg 535, Benelli Nova/Supernova, and the Keltec KSG-12. I would have thrown the Winchester SPX in the mix but those are turkshit makes now. For something a bit more vintage, the High Standard Flite King has a pretty glass and loose ass slide.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Remington 870 Police Magnum is a solid choice, or any hardwood 870 from the 80s and 70s

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >88

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remingtons have a better design than Mossbergs, stronger shell stop levers that don't bend. Google "mossberg shells stuck" and then do Remington and there's way less reported issues. I had one shit out right at the beginning of a class and it's not a quick fix. There's a plethora of other issues as well that Remington fixed by updating their design. Mossbergs entire claim to fame is they copied the old 870 when the patents expired, but they haven't updated it since.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      On 590a1 too. It seems incredible to me but I don't own one. Still, it's supposed to be the best military pump available.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Has Remington begun healing from the freedom group debacle? Seems Bushmaster and Marlin are slowly recovering and starting to have decent or even phenomenal QC'ing for the products again.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know but there are so many pre-2007 Remingtons out there and they're so inexpensive I don't know why you'd worry about buying a new one. Warranties are a meme. If you need it the gun is a POS.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >so many pre-2007 Remingtons out there and they're so inexpensive
          they are not
          cheap ones do exist but its inexpensive cause its beat to shit, rusting or has minor damage.
          pre 2007 rems in acceptable condition usually cost more than a new one

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm putting "inexpensive" south of $550. Trying to hit a competetive pricepoint with Mossberg while having an innately more expensive design is one of the things that fricked Remington even without Cerberus running the company into the dirt.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Trying to hit a competetive pricepoint with Mossberg while having an innately more expensive design is one of the things that fricked Remington
              You cant claim its an naturally costly design to make when the chinese almost 1:1 knock offs were sold for 150-200. For over a decade. They were considered better than the expresses.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I mean you can still find some police trade in 870 magnums for around $250-300 if you look around. Decent condition (around 70-80%) 870s from 1969-1990 are around $400 if you buy a Wingmaster or a sporting model, much cheaper if you hit up a hood pawnshop. If you're looking for a scattergat to scatter shot with, some cosmetic blemishes aren't the end of the world.

            I'm putting "inexpensive" south of $550. Trying to hit a competetive pricepoint with Mossberg while having an innately more expensive design is one of the things that fricked Remington even without Cerberus running the company into the dirt.

            >South of $550
            Decent budget and you'll get a lot of good pumps in that price range. If you're fine with used, thats most pumps outside of an 870MCS or M3.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just get a regular 500. the only advantage a 590 mariner has is aesthetic or if you live at the beach

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there is precisely nothing wrong with a 590. if you want to stick a knife on it, get the A1.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What’s up the with Ithaca 37? Any good? I never hear much about them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're solid. The downward ejection just makes the brain hurt. The BPS in 10 gauge is a baller pump but those are unobtanium. You can find some models that slamfire, but IDK what the year they stopped them were.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not as practical as a 500/870 they died out for real reasons
        neat though
        modern repro ones are frickspensive

        Interesting, thanks. I noticed they are pricy. I’ll just stick with /Mavericks and older Remingtons.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Meant to say “Mossbergers/Mavericks”

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/ithaca-shotguns-model-37/ithaca-gun-company-model-37-featherlight-12-ga.cfm?gun_id=102681290

            https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/ithaca-shotguns-model-37/ithaca-gun-company-37-featherlight-12-ga.cfm?gun_id=102550227

            https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/ithaca-shotguns-model-37/ithaca-gun-company-37-12-ga.cfm?gun_id=102676978

            I mean, they're not that much more expensive for one vs a new Maverick 88 or 500A.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          oh and there is a cutoff date on 37s if you want slamfire capability
          at this point in time with their pricing its a novelty or luxury gun. not something you buy cause you just want a shotgun. you buy a 37 cause you want a 37 and are willing to pay and maintain it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not as practical as a 500/870 they died out for real reasons
      neat though
      modern repro ones are frickspensive

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just wait for the psa pump

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