What is the current situation in Ukraine?

I'm following the feeds, so I know the general story, I'm not living under a rock. But as for the specifics, I can't tell what's true anymore. What's going on in Kherson? I'm being told they're pushing the russians back slowly but the Ukrainian live map doesn't make it look like they've advanced in Kherson. In addition, I'm hearing that some settlements in western luhansk have been abandoned by the russians and are facing ukrainian assault, but all the maps I've seen show the ukrainian advance stopping at the Oskil river.

WHAT IS GOING ON?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The northern advance is going fantastic. Last reports say the russians are retreating back over the russian border. Kherson was apparently meant as a Ukraine feint, but at the speed things are happening now it is possible to imagine a russian retreat there too.

    We live in crazy days right now.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >WHAT IS GOING ON?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    General propaganda from both sides, specifically on PrepHole, it's very pro-Ukraine. You're not going to get any real takes on the situation or even accurate reporting on events unfolding until weeks/months later and even then you're gonna have to dig to find them. Take the current situation; Russians are withdrawing to more defensible positions since their previous positions are untenable. If instead of just going on twitter or PrepHole and reading through threads of 99% "what is the tactical significance of X?" Or "Russians r le-monkes!" you actually ask why specifically these things are happening. You would know fairly quickly that the Russians simply haven't had any infantry force at all since the start of the war due to the special military operation designation of the conflict forcing the government to not being able to send in conscripts, which is the bulk of their infantry force.

    Combined with the fact that the Ukrainians are being supporting by literally the worlds most powerful military force to ever exist, combined with the fact that after the blatantly embarrassing losses of the East and Crimea by the Russians, Ukraine has been bolstering its fighting force since 2014 making it into not only a fairly large fighting force, but a fighting force that isn't room temperature IQ dogshit like Iraq's circa 03.

    The real question to ask and that won't be answered for a while is: will the Russians gain the upper hand with better defensive positions and a surge of training battalions equaling roughly a Corps worth of units with actual infantry in them? Or will they continue to get pushed back and fall into disarray? The realist answer is that we don't know and only time will tell. But you can bet your ass that there will by a couple dozen replies to this post saying nothing but really shitty twitter/normie bot tier propaganda lines against it.

    - Welcome to PrepHole, we have fallen very, very far down.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Better positions
      Uhhh my guy they were forced out of an entire Oblast. When they leave Kherson, will that also just be a regrouping to better positions?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Way to simplify the situation to sound smart. Most of the terrain in the area is just farmland, which would require large formations in an area defense to hold properly. Something the Russians can't do, withdrawing from that front completely to avoid a complete defeat in detail would be considered a withdrawal in my book. You also make the claim "entire Oblast" as if that is some massive thing, we're talking a few tens of kilometers, not hundreds or thousands. The real question is what the Russians will do with their units in terms of shuffling them around to other AO's.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >we're talking a few tens of kilometers, not hundreds or thousands
          We are talking 1000 km^2

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do you not know how to calculate an area?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >"Russians r le-monkes!"
      Every day, until you like it!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > what is the tactical significance of X?
      Seriously, fuck these threads

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Welcome to PrepHole, we have fallen very, very far down.

      Russian hands typed this

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm COOOOPING

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >conscripts, which is the bulk of their infantry force.
      This isn't even true kek. Conscripts are mostly useless because they're only there for a year. Why would you use a bunch of worthless boot morons as infantry?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only contract units such as the VDV and Naval Infantry use contract infantry. Most motor rifle units in the Russian Federation use conscripts because in reality training someone to be an infantryman isn't actually a hard thing to do.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        conscripts absorb bullets and bombs. very useful russian tactic. attack the enemy when they're out of ammo.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ah yes, I see. You capture the country... by going backwards! Genius!

      Reality isn't 'bias'. It's what it is. When Russian panel shows are saying it's time to negotiate with Ukraine or for mobilisation or preparing for decades long war... you know something isn't going right. That doesn't mean there is a 'bias' from posters. It just repeating the facts as is.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      based anon.
      I feel your pain.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Russians shows its military incompetence
      >History has shown us whoever the world backs tends to win
      >Ukraine has significantly higher morale and cause for war so much so that's it's still running off of volunteer conscription after the first couple months, and has fucking waiting lists for people applying
      >Russia just keeps taking L's
      >Is unwilling to go full hog, and even if it did would probably only extend the war a year or two and kill more Russians
      >The longer this goes on the more people are trained by the Britain and outfitted with combat drones in every single squad.
      At this point if you had any historical knowledge you'd have to be retarded to still think Russia has a chance at even maintaining the land it holds, honestly.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      based anon.
      I feel your pain.

      The pain of being a Reddit-tier retard? Couldn’t be me. Russians have zero defensive lines to pull back to, particularly in the northern part. The lines they have in the south are dubious at best given they were hastily made in the past 2-3 weeks, all the while himars was assblasting their already shit logistics. And FUCKING LoL at “trained” Russian troops. They’re giving sailors one week of training before putting in them fucking T62s and saying Za Stalina. This entire retarded post is cope thinly-veiled as some sort of competent assessment. Just because you say “wah wow-is-me, I miss the old k” doesn’t give you any credibility, which is even more obvious by your dumbass takes. Fuck off if you don’t like it newfag.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He's not a retard. He is a deliberate Russian shill. These people use gish-galloping and word salad to drown critical thinking skills to overcome all their fucking lies.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The pain of being unable to have a sensible conversation because FUCKING gayS LIKE YOU drag the conversation down to the lowest possible level and then pretend you're helping the fucking Ukraine by being a little fucking gay gay fucking cunt on the internet.

        You come to a blue board because you're so shit at trolling that when you actually successfully troll you're getting so fucking rekt that you immediately run away.

        Nobody is a russian shill, we just hate you.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the pain has turned to anger. regret shall soon replace it.
          It's time to go back.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's time garden gnomes like you to go back into the fucking over.
            Stale 4chanmeme gayy no-guns never-served bullshit spammed, ENDLESSLY, just to make conversation impossible.

            Honestly, if Russia was actually paying shills on PrepHole, they couldn't do much better than you. Because all you do is make people so fucking angry that they take opposite position to whatever you take just to fucking spite you! You absolute fucking failure.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              the fire rises brother!

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              seethe more retard :DD

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Combined with the fact that the Ukrainians are being supporting by literally the worlds most powerful military force to ever exist
      Why do you people have to mention this? Is this how you cope with your situation? It's irrelevant to the question asked, but you can't help but mention it at every given chance.

      It's pathetic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally the only side that has most accurately represented the conflict has been the Ukes. You know the ruzzian lies because he opens his mouth. Ruzzians put out reports of destroying 40 HIMARs, that Ukes tried to storm Snake Island with a thousand spec ops and they all got routed, that thr entire Uke AF was knocked out.

      Literally not ONE SINGLE WORD from Russia has had a shred of truth.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lol.

      https://i.imgur.com/2sFv5aN.jpg

      The clearest proof of how morale works in armies

      1. Enormous tactical blunders demolished russian conscript will to keep fighting
      2. As a result troops on the battlefront basically stood idle waiting for shit to happen unless ordered
      3. Ukraine took notice of this and began screaming that they were attack kherson
      4. Orders to reinforce by a bunch of retards outside the front came through and nobody on the front considered the possibility it may be a bad idea.

      in short:

      DEMORALIZATION LED DIRECTLY TO NOT THINKING THE KHERSON ATTACK CLAIMS PROPERLY THUS FAILING TO NOTICE IT WAS A TRAP

      THIS STATEMENT IS IMPORTANT. GIVE ME YOUS.

      Ok have one

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The replies screaming vatnig keeps enforcing my belief that most of these people are NATO shills getting paid to scream at everyone not retardedly yelling "RUSSIA WILL LOSE" with no discourse of actual value

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >retardedly yelling "RUSSIA WILL LOSE"

        Russia is losing. Actively. This very moment.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it was evident two weeks in russia was going to lose. even phil harris saw it. theynever had a chance.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        idk what you expect from europoor tennagers anon. they just want PrepHole to be /europol/, they don't actually care about weapons or tactics

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      most realistic answer in this thread. the replies prove it too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sure why not get some (you)s

      this guy is absolutely right. You will not know what’s going on until later and you won’t know who “won” until it’s over. Russia doesn’t want Kiev they’re not stupid enough to want to manage an insurgency. They want the Ukrainian government to stop attacking ethnic Russians and for nato to fuck off. And yes they do have more arrows in their quiver. Winter will be here soon. We will see what happens.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russia put out a press release claiming it had won 2 days after this fuckup began. a week later, they put out a press release claiming they had destroyed more vehicles than they said ukraine even had. In their own press release.
      There's a reason everyone is laughing at you, Ivan, and it's not hard to see.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What is the current situation in Ukraine?
    to explain it in one sentence, Putin is more dangerous to own side than to enemy

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing is happening right now. Kherson is still a stalemate. Ukies are occupying positions Russias chickenshitted out of in Kharkiv. Minor territorial trades by both sides. There's not always something significant happening every week.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1. The Ukrainians have recaptured Kharkiv Oblast, and are marching on Donetsk Oblast

    2. The Russians are refusing to send more soldiers into Ukraine

    3. The Russians in Kherson are isolated on the wrong side of the Dnieper river, and reports are coming out that a mass surrender is being negotiated

    4. The Russian government is in chaos right now about what to do, even the oligarchs are being insubordinate to Putin

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The Ukrainians have recaptured Kharkiv Oblast, and are marching on Donetsk Oblast
      Source
      >The Russians are refusing to send more soldiers into Ukraine
      Source
      >The Russians in Kherson are isolated on the wrong side of the Dnieper river, and reports are coming out that a mass surrender is being negotiated
      Source
      >The Russian government is in chaos right now about what to do, even the oligarchs are being insubordinate to Putin
      Source

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        .. you're asking for source for something you can see on the map?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >see on the map
          Are you unironically using Ukrainian government announcements and liveuamap as your fucking source? You better not be that retarded anon.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            oh you're with the CIA , carry on

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Ukrainian government announcements
            Remember when Ukraine announced that the Moskva had been sunk, or when it announced that the Russians on the Kyiv, Sumy, and Chernihiv axis were running away? I do 🙂

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >the Moskva had been sunk
              the Moskva has been carrying out its 6 month submarine patrol mission successfully in complete secrecy

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Of course, it will one day resurface to make sure that the Ukrops are enjoying the goodwill gesture of Snake island!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wonder if literal Russian sources like Rybar will open his eyes? Doubtful. It's like explaining current gen nuclear power to environmentalists. They just reboot and act like you said nothing of the sort.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dude, I've posted Rybar on 4chan, and those retards called it US propaganda. They're too far gone.
            >It's like explaining current gen nuclear power to environmentalists
            Both the far-right and far-left have really shown degeneration of their views. They obviously blocked nuclear because they were on Russian pay-roll. It was by intention.
            https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/11/how-us-environmental-groups-collude-with-the-russi/

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This link seems to explain German energy policy as well.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        PROOOOOFFFSSSS?????

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cope
        Cope
        Cope
        Cope

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I pee in the stall because I can't pass urine when other men (could) watch my penis. It's caused by childhood trauma. Nothing big, just got scared as a little kid going to a public bathroom on my own for the first time and couldn't pee at all when trying to use a urinal. Since then it's been self-reinforcing. I'm afraid I won't be able to pee, so I'm unable to pee. If I just stopped thinking about everything would Just Werk (TM).

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Imagine all the other men scared of your penis

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't have to imagine.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >2. The Russians are refusing to send more soldiers into Ukraine

      Which russians? The ones in charge, or the toothless opposition, or the generals? I would love to hear more.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    livemap is retarded. They've mostly devolved into reposting Ukrainian government sources. There is slow progress in Kherson, ironically they haven't been able to announce certain liberations because they never claimed to have lost those settlement (Oleksandrivka comes to mind). Realistically armies tend to fail slowly, than suddenly. Suspect that will happen when the Russians run critically low on supplies. I expect things to speed up in about one, or dare I say, two more weeks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Remember in Syria where these map sites were actually good? If not truly accurate at least entertaining and a useful news source? Liveuamap has never once been anything but dogshit on Ukraine.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    more popcorn:

    On September 13, at 00:05, units of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces began intensive shelling of Armenian positions from artillery and large-calibre guns in the direction of Goris, Sotk and Jermuk. The enemy also uses UAVs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Now all we need is for belarus and kazakhstan to heat up and we can say goodbye and good ridance to the russian federation.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Turkish roach resources report that the Azerbaijani army is preparing a military operation in Karabakh.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WE ARE GOING TO TAKE DONETSK.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would fucking laugh if they did.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >WE ARE GOING TO TAKE DONETSK.
      WE WILL RAISE THE BANAN FLAG

      AND MONKE WILL UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every hohol will be raped and skinned before the eyes of their families, such are the consequences of violating Russians. Gouge out their eyes, force men to have gay sex, rape them with glass and broadcast it all on live tv. Meanwhile nuke the entire west of the country, give their gnomish allies in the west some fallout. Russia must go all in, no stopping now, only intense barbarity can help us now. Ours will conquer, whatever the price, destroy that which is not human. Fascism can never rule!
    Z

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is it with vatniks and top-tier sodomy fetishes?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have sincere doubts about that

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nuclear fire will rape you, brown subhuman ape

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you really think people can't see through your act?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here’s a video Peter Zeihan he just posted a couple hours ago.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, it's kinda boring and static now especially compared to the last week
    War do be like that

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My summary of the last two or three days would be - the yukes flubbed whatever they were planning in Kherson but pulled a spectacular offensive north of Izyum straight out of their arse. However it looks like the Russians were prepared to lose that ground in exchange for better defensive positions behind the Oskill river where, for now at least, they've had no difficulty holding.

    Whatever the magic was at Izyum it doesn't seem like it's working at Bakmut or southeast of Zaporizhia. I question how many casualties the yukes are taking in all this, it does remind me a bit of Operation Michael in 1918, which is what lost Germany the war, but it's far too early for any declarations to that effect, in the meantime credit where credit is due, they did a good job at Izyum whatever the details might be.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >However it looks like the Russians were prepared to lose that ground in exchange for better defensive positions behind the Oskill river
      why did they leave so many tanks and equipment behind lol

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Putins mightiest general, reincarnation of legendary Mongol general Subotai the Valiant, Shoigu, been planning this for 200 days, hes trying to draw the Ukrainians into positions where he can crush them for once and for all

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What do you think?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What am i looking at?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The ghost of keeve.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        One of those gnomish soldiers 4chan swears don't exist and who totally got escorted to Israel.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is there map of current Ukraine gains?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      reports of Ukrainian probing attacks on the southern side of Stalingrad

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Basically the Ukrainians managed a breakthrough east of Kharkiv and this so severely threatened Russian lines west of the Oksil river they had to beat a hasty retreat. The exact scale of losses on both sides is undetermined, but videos indicate Russia left behind a significant amount of equipment and many stragglers were taken prisoner.
    As a result the Russians have fully withdrawn to the border west of the Oksil and it is currently unclear where they are establishing defenses in northern Luhansk. It is also highly likely that the Ukrainians have established a bridgehead over the SD river in the vicinity of Lyman and are contesting the settlement. In Kherson the information has slowed, it is likely due to heavy fighting inflicting attrtional losses on both sides. It doesn't seem the Ukrainians have advanced far beyond the positions they gained in the first week, but they have generally held what was taken, especially east of the Inhulets River.
    Due to the fluid nature in Kharkiv we've seen a lot of unsubstantiated rumors about advances and withdrawls in this area and that area. Most of it is likely false inspired by panic, confusion and deliberate misinformation.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ukrainians managed a breakthrough east of Kharkiv and this so severely threatened Russian lines west of the Oksil river they had to beat a hasty retreat.
      Fake & Gay

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        retard

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck, the ukrops killed our discord channel moderator
    https://nitter.it/666_mancer/status/1569419149293543426#m

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not too well for the Russians

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Poor Jose Jordan is loosing his mind.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    now nato escalating in caucasus. they really want challenge russia...

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Think of the Kherson offensive more as a siege rather than an aggressive offensive. Ukraine can now pretty reliably stop anything from crossing over the dnipro river so the Russian troops in Kherson have limited supplies and reinforcements. Ukraine's goal is to either force a withdrawal/surrender or to slowly grind them down through artillery, air strikes, and small scale battles which will take weeks or even months. My take is we aren't gonna have any definite idea on how well the Kherson offensive is going until the end of September to mid October, it will have either completely stalled or we will see continuous small bites taken out of Russian territory which means it's just a matter of when it will fall.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The war so far:
    Act I: Turns out Russia's military is shit, they might take Ukraine, but very slowly.
    Act II: Despite the low expectations Russia manages to expose themselves even more. Could they be bottom Tier?
    Act III (recent days and weeks): Turns out they are bottom Tier, and Ukraine is now stomping them.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The clearest proof of how morale works in armies

    1. Enormous tactical blunders demolished russian conscript will to keep fighting
    2. As a result troops on the battlefront basically stood idle waiting for shit to happen unless ordered
    3. Ukraine took notice of this and began screaming that they were attack kherson
    4. Orders to reinforce by a bunch of retards outside the front came through and nobody on the front considered the possibility it may be a bad idea.

    in short:

    DEMORALIZATION LED DIRECTLY TO NOT THINKING THE KHERSON ATTACK CLAIMS PROPERLY THUS FAILING TO NOTICE IT WAS A TRAP

    THIS STATEMENT IS IMPORTANT. GIVE ME YOUS.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If Ukraine is doing so well why not invade into Russia as well?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no passport

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because that's the one scenario were Russia might actually use a nuke.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      u get da bomb

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Those nukes probably haven't seen any maintenance since 1985. Maybe we'll see Russia nuke themselves this year.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > Sure Ukraine beats Russia but can Ukraine CONQUER Russia? Don't think so!
      Is this the hottest and freshest Vatnik cope?

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw one of the best places for discussion concerning the war in Ukraine had been in a Sonic porn thread on /trash/
    Eternal pain

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Today's Russian losses reached 99, it was 102 yesterday

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >literally a half company worth of vehicles
      >mattering at all in a war involving entire field armies
      okay

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait wait wait, they captured a Tornado G? The platform the Russians shilled to be equal to HIMARS?

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's a good map if liveua is shit?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >good map
      projectowlosint is a reliable aggregator of maps and news. Neutral, vets what it posts as best it can.
      Now, there's a war on and everyone's shit's all emotional right now so when I say reliable I mean you can believe the posted are made in good faith by honest amateur analysts, but will often be inaccurate in some degree and you need to have a flexible mindset about the information coming in. But its 1 billion million times better than looking to Russian (i.e. liars) posts.
      >pic related
      >https://twitter.com/projectowlosint/status/1568972301231878150

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Or you could try the Moscow Times, that noted partisan flagwaver for Ukraine...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some people like this gay but i haven't checked him out, could just be doodling all day w

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