Nothing. They need to be disbanded. Nothing the army couldn't do. You literally dont need division sized units to do fuck all. Waste of money. Cowards all of them. They belong on the battlefield.
I would say Afghanistan but since they managed to dodge that one. They should be disbanded and be absorbed by regular infantry divisions. Cant put them in mechanized because they are too retarded and weak.
Yea you're right, we should all just be groping around the battlespace, no idea where the enemy is, or in what numbers, or equipment. You're probably a retarded combat arms "soldier". What's funny is, in peacetime i actually do more of my job then you. Have fun scanning CACs at the DFAC while I'm in the SCIF, being asked my opinion on strategic level questions by 0-7s.
t. 35F
I heard if you sign a 35 series contract you should go out of your way to *not* sign an Option 4 along with it because then you'll be sent to some retard unit to do motor pool and sweep all day instead of doing actual intel stuff. Is that true?
I think it really depends on which specific MOS you want. Fox? You are almost guaranteed to be doing dumb shit unless you get lucky like me. SIGgers, Golfs, Mikes, Papas? They are much more often assigned to units where they will do their job, but are not immune to fuck fuck games.
>live in le special red/black/whatever isocon with drone feeds and internet 24/7 >still know less about the battlespace than senior specialist Dumbfuck Sawgunner (IQ 87)
I'm sure there's a useful intel guy somewhere in the military (it's a big place) but I've yet to meet one who wouldn't be improved by a little bullying and MOS change to 42A
Guess, then deliver presentations about their guesses. I mean the pic really speaks for itself, "heres a map, heres where you are going, here's where we think youll encounter contacts, heres where we had contacts previously, heres what their composition was previously, heres what their modus operandi was previously", etc.
In fairness they're not just simply guessing, the US at least runs a lot of math first to see what the likelihood of an enemy attack there is, what our chances of success if there is an attack, where they statistically are more likely to attack from based on geographic factors, etc. Even Russia doesn't do intelligence via shots in the dark.
>dump the cowards and incompetent autists into intelligence >surprised they lack the intelligence to not leak shit
Just send them back into light infantry.
The most famous moment of military intelligence was at midway
Where codebreakers were able to deduce that the japanese target was midway and that the diversion at the aleutians could be safely ignored
By knowing the exact time and date of the japanese attack they were able to concentrate their forces at midway instead of splitting up
While also rendering the multi-pronged attack of the japanese ineffectual
Gather information from a variety of sources, do their best to analyze and interpret it, then present it the people in charge who will use that information to inform and influence their own decisions. At least in a general sense. Day to day taskings of an intel weenie can vary greatly based off specific job, unit, location, and what’s going on at the time. Much like any job in the military your mileage may vary greatly on a variety of factors way outside of your control.
Human intelligence. Handle human assets
Geospatial intelligence. Analyse satellite feed, maps, lol when they watch north korea missile tests flop into the ocean via live feed
Signal intelligence. Analyse communications, radar, decode messages
Polish boomer here.
Daily reminder that US "intelligence" overrated capabilities and morale of Warsaw Pact armies to the point of insanity.
Maybe they're just a military version of rating agencies? Just whores for hire, and my bet is MIC is their biggest employer.
I'm surprised they didn't display taliban as superhuman ninjas who will invade USA.
You probably weren't there, but everyone in the "west" was deeply shocked with the fall of the Iron Curtain and soon after the Soviet Union.
Surely justification for gigantic spending on military industrial complex could not be the reason.
Eh, I think there's a little truth to that, but the real reason has more to do with erring on the side of caution. Better to overprepare than to fall into the teap of overconfidence.
And from what I've read, the U.S. might not have overestimated the *morale* of certain Warsaw Pact nations TOO unreasonably; now that they're in NATO, some of those armies had very positive assessments of their preparedness, discipline, and will to fight. (Not just you guys, but also the Czechs and Baltic states if I remember correctly.)
Dude, should the war with NATO brake out, most of the conscripts in Poland and Czechoslovakia would kill their officers (those who would refuse to deflect) and switch sides/surrender.
Ironically, it was the DDR who was the most trusted Soviet ally, to the point when State Of War was being prepared (1981), they ware thinking about using East German forces from the west and Soviet forces from the east, should Jaruzelski fail, but later gave up that idea because "Polish comrades would not understand" due to history of Germans invading Poland.
Taking gathered information and presenting them to decisionmakers in a coherent manner.
The Pentagon probably has daily briefings about Putin's health and one intern has to give a short speech every day about the shits Putin has taken this day. Could be relevant to the war you know.
They listen in on all the service members private phone calls, cameras, and internet browsing. They also sit in a vault all day to keep the commanders SIPR computer warm. Downrange, they just browse reddit-for-military-intelligence and regurgitate happenings.
can someone please post that photograph from a PowerPoint presentation at some military base, where the inteligence people ware talking about extremist symbols, and it had Pepe on the list?
American taxpayer money hard at work.
Depends. Boring power point stuff or if attached to a cool guy unit they can actually do cool shit. Intel has thier own tier 1 unit that recruits spec ops guys and Intel dudes to do some wild shit. There was an anon here who was a navy intel reservist but was able to get the contact info for ISA and they literally just told him to come try out.
The secret to MI is to enlist as a 35 series for 3 years with a TS/SCI Clearance and then fuck off to work at a DoD Contractor making 160k a year doing absolutely nothing and writing bullshit reports.
t. I do this
Clearance jobs mostly also know some folks working for contractors who just got out and most don't make 6 figures . I'm a navy intel reserve power pointer and I do gsoc work contracting for big financial companies. They offered more and didn't require me to move to DMV which I despise.
What companies. I almost got a bank intel job with CITI down there but the bank I'm at paid the same but didn't require me to move. My job is super easy but I'd gladly move for 100k plus.
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I previously worked for Jacobs, but the management team there are is fucking terrible. ATLAS, CACI and General Dynamics are pretty good I heard. Although I had time as a 35F in group, I think that's what got me the job more than anything.
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I was thinking about taking some orders with a SEAL team in a years time to put that on my resume. I figured I'd stay at my gig and just stay with corporate security/intel but i wouldn't mind getting into intel contracting just don't want to do it for less then 100k
I have a friend who works at CITI Tampa on the OSINT team, he says its really easy but the manager is some random 50 year old woman who has no idea what shes doing.
Lol I applied for that gig they never called me back tho after my initial interview. Financial osint jobs are cake! I would love to do strictly OSINT my current gig is mostly travel security with some osint and social media monitoring.
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I have a friend who works at CITI Tampa on the OSINT team, he says its really easy but the manager is some random 50 year old woman who has no idea what shes doing.
Stateside?
Legally not much.
In country?
Overstate how much they can tell us about situations if you can ever get them away from board games.
Humint?
Good luck finding them not with the spooky boys
Gis?
Replaced by range control
Interrogate and torture the neighbors that locals hate, ignore any information that translators give, change their minds, and guess wrong.
No war could be won without them.
They're made by evolution to have more empathy in order to deal with children, but when put into positions they naturally don't belong in, they malfunction. See for example Boudicca.
Nothing. They need to be disbanded. Nothing the army couldn't do. You literally dont need division sized units to do fuck all. Waste of money. Cowards all of them. They belong on the battlefield.
Which battlefield? How many? What weapons will they need when they get there?
I would say Afghanistan but since they managed to dodge that one. They should be disbanded and be absorbed by regular infantry divisions. Cant put them in mechanized because they are too retarded and weak.
>Cant put them in mechanized because they are too retarded and weak
mechanized are weak pussies compared to regular infantry
Doesn't matter, put them in the various infantry divisions and send them out first
Yea you're right, we should all just be groping around the battlespace, no idea where the enemy is, or in what numbers, or equipment. You're probably a retarded combat arms "soldier". What's funny is, in peacetime i actually do more of my job then you. Have fun scanning CACs at the DFAC while I'm in the SCIF, being asked my opinion on strategic level questions by 0-7s.
t. 35F
I would grope around her airspace if you know what I mean
>falling for shitty b8
I heard if you sign a 35 series contract you should go out of your way to *not* sign an Option 4 along with it because then you'll be sent to some retard unit to do motor pool and sweep all day instead of doing actual intel stuff. Is that true?
its a roll of a dice regardless of what job you enlist as. You could either get a really good unit or a shitty unit.
I think it really depends on which specific MOS you want. Fox? You are almost guaranteed to be doing dumb shit unless you get lucky like me. SIGgers, Golfs, Mikes, Papas? They are much more often assigned to units where they will do their job, but are not immune to fuck fuck games.
You don't do shit that the weather channel and a local newspaper doesn't already do.
>live in le special red/black/whatever isocon with drone feeds and internet 24/7
>still know less about the battlespace than senior specialist Dumbfuck Sawgunner (IQ 87)
I'm sure there's a useful intel guy somewhere in the military (it's a big place) but I've yet to meet one who wouldn't be improved by a little bullying and MOS change to 42A
Guess, then deliver presentations about their guesses. I mean the pic really speaks for itself, "heres a map, heres where you are going, here's where we think youll encounter contacts, heres where we had contacts previously, heres what their composition was previously, heres what their modus operandi was previously", etc.
In fairness they're not just simply guessing, the US at least runs a lot of math first to see what the likelihood of an enemy attack there is, what our chances of success if there is an attack, where they statistically are more likely to attack from based on geographic factors, etc. Even Russia doesn't do intelligence via shots in the dark.
They get their TS documents stolen and leaked by zoomers to be seen by millions
>dump the cowards and incompetent autists into intelligence
>surprised they lack the intelligence to not leak shit
Just send them back into light infantry.
Smart stuff it’s in the name
The most famous moment of military intelligence was at midway
Where codebreakers were able to deduce that the japanese target was midway and that the diversion at the aleutians could be safely ignored
By knowing the exact time and date of the japanese attack they were able to concentrate their forces at midway instead of splitting up
While also rendering the multi-pronged attack of the japanese ineffectual
Gather information from a variety of sources, do their best to analyze and interpret it, then present it the people in charge who will use that information to inform and influence their own decisions. At least in a general sense. Day to day taskings of an intel weenie can vary greatly based off specific job, unit, location, and what’s going on at the time. Much like any job in the military your mileage may vary greatly on a variety of factors way outside of your control.
>What is military intelligence?
an Oxymoron.
/thread
underrated post
They make PowerPoints for battalion and higher echelon staffs
Human intelligence. Handle human assets
Geospatial intelligence. Analyse satellite feed, maps, lol when they watch north korea missile tests flop into the ocean via live feed
Signal intelligence. Analyse communications, radar, decode messages
Polish boomer here.
Daily reminder that US "intelligence" overrated capabilities and morale of Warsaw Pact armies to the point of insanity.
Maybe they're just a military version of rating agencies? Just whores for hire, and my bet is MIC is their biggest employer.
I'm surprised they didn't display taliban as superhuman ninjas who will invade USA.
>Polish boomer here.
go clean a toilet
00's called, they want their meme back.
This post was so retarded it makes sense it’s from a Pole
You probably weren't there, but everyone in the "west" was deeply shocked with the fall of the Iron Curtain and soon after the Soviet Union.
Surely justification for gigantic spending on military industrial complex could not be the reason.
I have you and other vatniks for that.
Eh, I think there's a little truth to that, but the real reason has more to do with erring on the side of caution. Better to overprepare than to fall into the teap of overconfidence.
And from what I've read, the U.S. might not have overestimated the *morale* of certain Warsaw Pact nations TOO unreasonably; now that they're in NATO, some of those armies had very positive assessments of their preparedness, discipline, and will to fight. (Not just you guys, but also the Czechs and Baltic states if I remember correctly.)
Dude, should the war with NATO brake out, most of the conscripts in Poland and Czechoslovakia would kill their officers (those who would refuse to deflect) and switch sides/surrender.
Ironically, it was the DDR who was the most trusted Soviet ally, to the point when State Of War was being prepared (1981), they ware thinking about using East German forces from the west and Soviet forces from the east, should Jaruzelski fail, but later gave up that idea because "Polish comrades would not understand" due to history of Germans invading Poland.
nam vet boomer meme answer: an oxymoron
>overrating your enemy to insane level
What else can they do to justify military spending every year?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Beautiful_Mind_(film)
A fun assignment for comm troops who care about the big picture. Though Jack Texawhatever may have just ruined that for everyone unfortunately.
>t. had the same job as that dipshit in a unit that did the same thing as his
I have a feeling that the dude just walked into a SCIF and started taking shit and nobody cared to ask
10 ISS?
Taking gathered information and presenting them to decisionmakers in a coherent manner.
The Pentagon probably has daily briefings about Putin's health and one intern has to give a short speech every day about the shits Putin has taken this day. Could be relevant to the war you know.
Military intelligence
Two words combined that can't make sense
Came here for this.
They listen in on all the service members private phone calls, cameras, and internet browsing. They also sit in a vault all day to keep the commanders SIPR computer warm. Downrange, they just browse reddit-for-military-intelligence and regurgitate happenings.
can someone please post that photograph from a PowerPoint presentation at some military base, where the inteligence people ware talking about extremist symbols, and it had Pepe on the list?
American taxpayer money hard at work.
They are intelligents
even that is questionable
i'm gonna eat a burger today
Powerpionts, tons of slide shows no one pays attention to.
Idk, heard they are pretty active on Discord tho
Leak government and military secrets on Discord to impress 12 year-olds.
Shitpost
Depends. Boring power point stuff or if attached to a cool guy unit they can actually do cool shit. Intel has thier own tier 1 unit that recruits spec ops guys and Intel dudes to do some wild shit. There was an anon here who was a navy intel reservist but was able to get the contact info for ISA and they literally just told him to come try out.
Military Intelligence is an oxymoron. Military Intelligence does whatever it can to get promoted while shamming out of doing any actual work.
The secret to MI is to enlist as a 35 series for 3 years with a TS/SCI Clearance and then fuck off to work at a DoD Contractor making 160k a year doing absolutely nothing and writing bullshit reports.
t. I do this
How? Most private contractors hiring now play like 60k starting and u need a degree. 160k is like 10 years intel work with a masters.
where the fuck are you seeing intel contractors making 60k a year with a TS/SCI + a bachelors?
Clearance jobs mostly also know some folks working for contractors who just got out and most don't make 6 figures . I'm a navy intel reserve power pointer and I do gsoc work contracting for big financial companies. They offered more and didn't require me to move to DMV which I despise.
Move to MacDill AFB Tampa. There's so many openings right now. Although COL offsets the salary thoughever.
What companies. I almost got a bank intel job with CITI down there but the bank I'm at paid the same but didn't require me to move. My job is super easy but I'd gladly move for 100k plus.
I previously worked for Jacobs, but the management team there are is fucking terrible. ATLAS, CACI and General Dynamics are pretty good I heard. Although I had time as a 35F in group, I think that's what got me the job more than anything.
I was thinking about taking some orders with a SEAL team in a years time to put that on my resume. I figured I'd stay at my gig and just stay with corporate security/intel but i wouldn't mind getting into intel contracting just don't want to do it for less then 100k
Lol I applied for that gig they never called me back tho after my initial interview. Financial osint jobs are cake! I would love to do strictly OSINT my current gig is mostly travel security with some osint and social media monitoring.
I have a friend who works at CITI Tampa on the OSINT team, he says its really easy but the manager is some random 50 year old woman who has no idea what shes doing.
Stateside?
Legally not much.
In country?
Overstate how much they can tell us about situations if you can ever get them away from board games.
Humint?
Good luck finding them not with the spooky boys
Gis?
Replaced by range control
Perverts and psychopaths.
It's the thing that has given Ukraine the largest fighting chance against russia. Not Javelin's, not HIMARs, intelligence.
most overlooked thing about the conflict
Interrogate and torture the neighbors that locals hate, ignore any information that translators give, change their minds, and guess wrong.
No war could be won without them.
>What do they do?
post all the top secret info on minecraft discords
They're made by evolution to have more empathy in order to deal with children, but when put into positions they naturally don't belong in, they malfunction. See for example Boudicca.