What is going on in this picture of a Ukrainian tank? Are the plus signs unit markings?
What are the little wheels at the back for? Crossing ditches?
What is going on in this picture of a Ukrainian tank? Are the plus signs unit markings?
What are the little wheels at the back for? Crossing ditches?
Plus signs seem to be for the offensive
The wheels are for anti tank mines
>Are the plus signs unit markings?
They're crosses, to evoke fear in the heart of the russian.
>What are the little wheels at the back for?
Mine clearing if I'm not mistaken. The back is further from the crew and increases survivability. they drive backwards through the suspected mine field. Notice how the wheels are perfectly inline with the tracks?
they aren't driving backwards, its a t72 with the turret removed.
by turret i mean main gun..
It wasn't removed. Tanks thay are mine clearing the fueld have theor turret turned backward to avoid damage to the barrel from Anti tank mine explosion.
Nope, this is a specialized mine clearing vehicle built on the T64A, where the gun has been removed.
It´s a T-64A with gun removed and mantle covered with Kontakt-1 ERA, in front of it is installed KMT-7(?) mine rollers.
Basically what said
poor t-64A shouldn't be transitioned to that without consent
Why there is no fake canon on this vehicle?
When the rolls hit mines they jump up a lot and would break the gun.
Atleast this is what we were told.
Fake cannon was used by OP tanks in WW2 so the enemy can't tell the difference
There's reports of North Korean command T-62's having no gun as well, but this is old news, and of course completely unreliable. Would make sense Norks as far as the 90's not having mass-produced integrated-circuit radios, and having to use huge vacuum-tube sets.
I think it's actually a jab at how stupid Russian AT doctrine is.
In armored warfare, the first things to be destroyed after fuel trucks are engineering vehicles. In a conflict with an even semi-competent military, putting on a dummy turret (even if just an inflatable/plastic one) would help camouflage it and make it less conspicuous of a target.
The Ukies know the Russians aren't well equipped enough to differentiate them from a distance, and too stupid to know to go after them first even if they could.
US does the same thing
Having no ammo carousel in case there's a cheeky bottom attack mine in the mix is probably a good thing
That is only with russian tanks?
Cuz western tanks usually have ammo in the back of the turret.
Soviet tanks don't have a turret bustle.
Don't russians have any side-attack AT mines? Or do those get cleared out by infantry since they're harder to conceal.
>What are the little wheels at the back for? Crossing ditches?
blowing up mines before the body of the tank gets over them
Invasion markings like the Z rissians use. Just much more organized.
>Are the plus signs unit markings?
Yeah.
haha I'm surprised the Bushies are still kickin
60 of them were sent
This disproves atheism.
If there's no God then why are vampires afraid of crosses?
I like the Netflix Castlevania explanation: Vampires have such specialized predatorial eyesight, that it works completely different from normal humans. Because of that, they have some difficulty with perfect geometrical shapes, especially directly up close. As a result, if you suddenly flash a geometric shape right up in their face, their brains freak the frick out for a few seconds before slowly coming back to their senses.
Which was in turn copied from Peter Watts’ Blindsight.
Correct. Excellent and mind bending book. Everyone should read it and more real sci-fi instead of cookie-cutter space adventures.
Blindsight is the epitome of pseudo-deep sci-fi. Most people would be made actually dumber and their intellectual development would be stunted if they read it before they already have at last a rudimentary understanding of the topics it covers.
But then anyone with such understanding would find no enjoyment in it.
you've made me extremely curious now about its logical failures - any juicy examples? i consider myself something of a connoisseur of shitty fermi paradox answers and dumb alien motivations
Some people do not liked that book because they're triggered by the core concept of conciousness being just an evolutionay oddity and alien intelligence without it being more than possible, even commonplace.
It's the kind of deliciously realistic cosmic horror that makes religious believers very nervous about their mental house of cards.
It goes all-in on concepts that fascinate pseuds, like the p-zombie and does so without showing any ability to actually understand the problem at even the college level - both on the philosophical and pragmatic psychological level.
The work's understanding of biology and intelligence are similarly lacking.
None of this would be a big deal if its fans did not insist on treating it as thought-provoking "hard" science fiction when it's basically on the same level as original series Star Trek.
Basically this.
Case in point.
I read Blindsight and Echopraxia, both great reads that made me think about the world differently. There's some pretty memey material in there like the vamps and pseudo-philosophy (and literal memeolgy is mentioned if I recall) but I don't feel it detracted from the story. Most philosophy is so far up it's own ass it may as well be a meme anyway.
I think the author was just trying to frame some ideas in a more accessible way, which worked for me at least. As a "hard sci-fi" it's realistic in the sense that the motivations, actions/consequences are all make sense in the setting and bullshit doesn't happen for no reason.
> without showing any ability to actually understand the problem at even the college level - both on the philosophical and pragmatic psychological level. The work's understanding of biology and intelligence are similarly lacking.
As if the scientific fields involved weren't a mess of speculation and shaky theories, lol. The book doesn't pretend to be a scientific paper, and it's kind of ironic that the criticism against it beyond literary merit it's exactly what you do here: dismissive high minded babble without real substance.
I know better than the PhD evolutionary biologist who wrote the book
-t. you, a moron on a basket weaving forum badly criticizing a work of fiction.
>t. But he has LETTERS next to his field of theoretical expertise!!!
Yeah, and wrote a book about space vampires. It's a work of fiction and an exercise in sucking your own dick for "dunking" on religious people by making up a setting where they get BTFO. No different than Ridley Scott's Prometheus or Covenant, only difference is Scott's media is shown in the dark so nobody can see you tip your fedora meaning it doesn't get defended on a Tibetan basketweaving site.
Oh, you're one of those people who think anything that isn't Christian young adult content is personally attacking you.
I see.
>actually understand the problem at even the college level
who the frick studies stupid shit like muh sentience in college? all of philosophy is just 3deep5u brainlets playing language games with each other.
art school is just daycare for rich homosexuals who don't need any marketable skills to land a job at one of daddy's companies so it doesn't count.
It's a fine book
As far as SF goes it is reasonably hard
Being contrarian for the sake of it tells more about you then the fanbase
But yes the vampires are stupid
And the sequel kinda sucks
One of the biggest plotholes is that aliens would consider humans sending radio waves everywhere to be some sort of incredibly harmful and hostile attack on its attention. I thought these aliens were meant to be intelligent beings? Apparently not. The sheer amount of blind spots in cognition to come to that conclusion alone would be huge. It's not really worth discussing or properly explaining with someone who hasn't read the story though.
Please recommend something to a Peter Watts' fan. I've read all his books, and I fail to find anything that would satisfy me that much again.
Thats gay as frick
>straight lines in losing my mind aalAahahha!!
Or
>The symbol of God hurts my demonic being ahahha
>straight lines in losing my mind aalAahahha!!
you can acquire vampire booba by hypnotizing her with a chalk line on the ground
like a chicken
Pic related, vampire hunters.
That sounds fricking moronic.
But in the same show the frickers get harmed by holy water, i like the attempt at justifying why crosses work on non christian places but it just sounds stupid
For me, it is Vampires the Masquerade instead. Your average vampire don't give a frick about holy water, garlic, cross or other memes, but he does care about a shotgun slug in the face.
Though, true faith works too.
>""""scientific"""" explanations for folklore in fiction
That's stupid as frick
Dumb shit
Equally
Must be fun at parties, you abhorrent homosexual.
holy frick reddit leave
>I like the Netflix Castlevania explanation
I'm sure you do, you are a reddit atheist who is ignoring the 2000 year old Christian tradition with the cross as a ward against evil that Bram Stoker incorporated into his fiction citing worthless disposable cheap diversity media. Why do that? Simple you are a c**t, a dipshit, the west fart in the back of the room. Or g8 b8 m8
vampires
>dislike for crosses
>wealthy eastern european aristocrats
>corrupters of women
>no self reflection
seems like the old stories were trying to tell us something
>no self reflection
>no self reflection
savage
>no self reflection
But they project a lot.
heavy wheel set off anti tank mine away from tank so tank and tank behind tank can driver over former anti tank mine cross probably for identification so ukranian know tank with god is their tank and tank without is bad
But where's the caveman?
Ukies have the Shagohod. It's all over now.
Looks like this tbh tho
Damn Ukrainian Nazis
or this. medal from 1920
anyway the cross is easily identifiable compared to all the symbols russia has used. V, O, Z, and deadly hollows
>deathly hollows
lol
remember when putin was comparing Russia to JK rowling
Looks more like the Hungrian one tbh
Maybe Ukies are trying to win the Orban over
omg those nazis!
time for wokists to start hysterical screeching on twitter
Yeah, no it doesn.t you stupid fricking Black person.
War never changes
The better question is, how will russia ever recover from this?
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>The better question is, how will russia ever recover from this?
Spoiler: They wont, they lost their seat inherited from the Soviet Union.
lmao at the journalist smirking and taking notes
>Oh yeah, this one's going IN the report
"Ok hold on... monkey... with... grenade.. OOKOOKOOKOOK- [blows self up]..."
"Ok I'm finished taking notes lol"
>wheels on the back
that's the front, firstly, and that's a mine cleaner technical
How the frick do you not know what a mine clearing tank looks like?
Not sure but I think these are captured Russian tanks?
I think they started doing this on captured Zigger tanks first, because it's easier to cover the Z with green, then paint a white cross, than to frick around with blue and yellow.
>Fury
The movie is shit
he wanted to spell furry
remember russia is losing to trannies
Those are Russian tank models, if you dont want to do war crimes and get friendly fired you need a clear signal what side you're on. White was the color of loyalists in the earlier rebellion in the east.
Its going forward, with its gun back, wheels hit mines and blow up instead of your actual tracks. Tanks doing long distance road driving often turn their gun back, but the others have guns forward so i'm guessing they dont want a landmine scuffing up precision tools.
But if they're so worried about landmines, what's Boris doing chilling out the hatch? Godspeed Crazy Boris.
Its the Crusader Cross, the Ukraine war is a holy war.
>Its the Crusader Cross, the Ukraine war is a holy war.
Hail Christ!
Did you take your meds anon?
On the schism of the Orthodox Church of Ukraine from the Russian Orthodox Church.
On 12 October 2018, the press service of the president of Russia made it known that the issue of the Russian Orthodox Church (ROC) in Ukraine was the subject of deliberations at the situational meeting Russia's president had with the permanent members of the Security Council of Russia. The president's spokesman Dmitry Peskov commented that the Kremlin supported the ROC's position and was ready to defend "the Orthodox faithful in Ukraine".
On 17 December 2018, it was reported that the Federal Security Service of Russia, along with members of the Moscow Patriarchate, allegedly had created mobile groups to prevent communities in Ukraine from switching from the UOC-MP to the OCU. Those groups are present in each diocese of the UOC-MP and are composed of a lawyer and several men.
On 20 December, Russia's president Vladimir Putin condemned the creation of the OCU. In an interview for Serbia's two major dailies published on 16 January 2019 on the official website of the president of Russia, Putin said the creation of the OCU and its official establishment via the Tomos was an attempt "to legalize the schismatic communities that exist[ed] in Ukraine under the jurisdiction of Istanbul, which is a gross violation of Orthodox canons".
On 6 November 2019, following the talks with his Greek counterpart Nikos Dendias, shortly after the Moscow Patriarchate severed communion with the Church of Greece in retaliation to the latter's recognition of the OCU, Russia's foreign minister Sergei Lavrov told a press conference that he believed that the OCU's recognition was predicated on the efforts of the U.S. Government and personally secretary of state Mike Pompeo.
What is it bro’s?
Mobile ukrainian hospital. Forgot the name.
It's a civilian camper that some Russian commander decided to use.
It was recently captured in the Kharkov direction.
No, it is Kovcheg, like other anon said a military mobile hospital.
well looks like a bullet proof camper for me
>bullet proof camper
That's what it is, but it is a very high-quality ork-job for sure.
Battletech is real.
heh
Not even my final form.
And the russians have this.
god I can here fricking chris farley now
"IN COMES THE MEAT WAGON"
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70s/80s era Datsun-esque junker pickup with camper shell held together by tetanus and prayer, with ad-hoc amateur welded armor made of paper thin rusty steel......that's incredible
That's the camper from Jurassic Park II.
>Are the plus signs unit markings?
Crosses to protect from satan worshiping pedophile rapist looters.
mine roller
It just doesn’t really look like a mobile hospital. Everyone thinks it looks like an a RV lol so maybe some Russian officer did live in it for a while
De-mining equipment, something russians use conscripts for.
shill thread 43030
Ironically this is how Warsaw Pact invasion tanks were painted during the Prague Spring.
The outward appearance looks better, more uniform and professional than what Russia is using now.
Bear in mind these are all pretty much spanking new in 1968, while ALL of Russian tanks currently being operated were made 40-60 years ago, and only had various modernization packages slapped on (packages that started out really ambitious but often just resulted in MOAR ERA BRICCS!!1 and some dumb, Black person rigged optics/sensor upgrades that were hard to use and sucked compared to their western counterparts).
For answers take a look at the Soviet/Russian defense budget.
How did soviet military spendings were even counted as? It is an economy of slave labor and artificial demand/supply cycle, no way they just counted the market cost of whatever stuff and called it a day, right?
You can still calculate GDP, right?
What I mean is that soviets could just pay cents to the soldiers, engineers, workers etc. get resources for effectievly free by demand, or just blatantly frick over domestic goods for the sake of military production on a whim.
The shit soviets done would've cost such a copious amounts of funds in proper market economy that it's hard to even grasp on.
The T-80U was the top dog of Soviet tank design, and it was considered prohibitively expensive because in the late 80's it cost as much as an M60A3.
Keep in mind, they currently have one tank factory that has to do everything from un-mothballing, to upgrades and overhauls, to repairs, and iirc the production centers responsible for the T-64 and T-80s were in Ukraine.
Ukraine produced T-80UD, T-80U was produced in Russia. Easy to confuse
Still the point still stands, they only have Uralvagonzavod to do anything relating to tanks, along with basically any other heavy equipment they're responsible for producing.
true, not only that they are no longer producing any T-80s since 2001, so likely everything related to T-80 production(and likely un-mothballing) was stolen
Sounds like a good target for strategic smoking
I'm not sure, I'm not an economist, but I do know that till the late 80's Soviet ruble (being basically a communist toy money) was not exchangeable on the currency market, maybe that's why that graph starts at 1988.
It's a good time to be a MIC shareholder
>Us has like 9 times the military budget of Russia
>with 0,5% GDP less spent
God why is Russia so fricking POOR?
The Soviets/Russians blew it for over a century now.
They sacrificed wealth to feed the military, while the USA built the wealth to feed the military.
Howe can they make offensive without cages on top?
they are driving forward but have rotated the turret to the rear
the wheels in front are for triggering anti tank mines
they rotate the turret to prevent any damage to the barrel and optics from the mines going off
>they are driving forward but have rotated the turret to the rear
Wrong, get your eyes checked.
you can see the drivers hatch numbnuts
Yes, I can also see the commander's cupola on the right, the gunner's front-swiveling hatch to the left, and the stereoscopic sight of the T-64A to the front, homosexual!!!
my bad I got it wrong I didn't see that it was a specialised version without a gun
and that you where talking about the tank driving in reverse as a few other posters where saying
All good, niggy.
Plus signs are crosses, Nazi iconography actually, used by the Wermacht in this same area.
We have videos of the offensive now. Ukrainians rushing trenches in a frenzy and butchering Russian troops, shooting them from the side in cowardly blood lust before they have time to respond. After they say, "hail Odin! Hail Thor!" These are Nazis through and through.
Before the Tartar Yolk, when Russia was enslaved by the East, for many centuries it was raised, raped, and enslaved by the Norsemen. It was a Yolk as long as more brutal, only forgotten now. Novgorod was ruled by the Norsemen, then Kievan Rus. They made their way to the Black Sea and even Constantinople paid them tribute. The West did worse, France fell to them, as did England, then southern Italy. Eventually North Africa and Palestine fell to them, but the Turk at least drove them out some day. Now we face this same old evil, same as 1812, 1914, or 1940. We will win again. Russia has risen from its knees and will beat back the savages.
>We will win again. Russia has risen from its knees and will beat back the savages
Yeah
>Nazi iconography
Hmmm
Didn't the mongols basically own you for 500 years?
You are invading their country. You are not the oppressed innocent victim you are the rapacious aggressor and you are being punished for it.
! Metal Gear?
The plus signs are aiming points for moronic ATGs.
The plus marks the thickest armor.
>What are the little wheels at the back for?
Training wheels. Once the driver feels comfortable he won't lose control, they'll take them off.
It's a lowercase "t" for "time to go"
Wow I wonder what it references.
"Sign of the Cross" Used primarily by ZSU.
its so it goes faster, plus signs included
mine rollers, with the turret rotated backwards to prevent damage to optics or gun if/when the mines go off.
>Are the plus signs unit markings?
the Ukrainians are using it to differentiate their shit from the Russians' shit, since increasingly everyone is using the same stuff.
No idea if there is any significance to the cross but if I were a Ukrainian I'd be shooting the equivalent of "Gott Mit Uns" right about now.
>Are the plus signs unit markings?
it's the PANZER VOR marking
ngl if I were a thieving despot oligarch a boat like this I would get. Looks pretty comfy and dope.
literally every single country on the planet has rich people that buy big ships. how does this mean anything?
Those crosses are friendly unit markings, similar to Russian Z's and the newest triangle w/ circle. Those wheels are mine rollers to make the AT-mine coom while you brrr over it.
slava ukraine