What if we all registered 100 tennis balls with holes cut in them?

What if we all registered 100 tennis balls with holes cut in them?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I aint registering shit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Coward.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How? Not registering is textbook non-compliance

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I know you are

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous
  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    man it must suck living in a state that isn't texas or louisiana.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Uhhhhhhh, bruh, the ATF is a federal agency, they go where they want and get to arrest you, doesn't matter what state retard. Local cops have never enforced stamps they have no jurisdiction.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >get to arrest you
        they can arrest you for eating ice cream without a license, but the 5th circuit court (which covers texas and louisiana) just bitchslapped the ATF over their bump stock ban, specifically calling them out for changing their rules to make bump stocks illegal after having previously stating they were legal, and for issuing rulings that have criminal penalties which is something only the legislature can do and something the legislature may not delegate away.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bro so is ICE but blue city's are allowed to kick them out.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No they aren't lmao. The sanctuary shit just means local law enforcement don't alert ice when they find/release an illegal.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're too stupid to own firearms. Please sell them or off yourself.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're too stupid to own firearms. Please sell them or off yourself.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >or louisiana.
      Did I miss some news that Kennedy or Edwards told them to fuck themselves?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you missed this, which covers Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi
        https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/20/20-51016-CV2.pdf#page=1

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But nothing relating to the pistol braces?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the pistol brace ruling isn't actually out yet, so of course there aren't any court cases for it. read the bump stock decision linked above, the 5th circuit smacks the ATF around *hard* for a lot of the same fuckery they're pulling in their upcoming pistol brace ruling.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Funny. But why?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's an old trick from the pre-brace era of AR pistols. Under the new rule it would be considered a rifle stock and allow you to avoid the SBR tax stamp money.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't this amnesty just for firearms with stabilizing braces? The ball is not a stabilizing brace.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I guess it could depend on if it became a stock under the new rule or not. If it was not a stock, and I don't think it was but now would be due to creating surface area that could be used to shoulder, then I feel like a case a could be made that i should be exempt to the fee. Who is going to fight it anyway?

          I just put a 16" barrel on my rifle, don't care. The suppressor will work better and cooler now and I still have a 10mm in my console. So, like whatever. I hate that's a moral victory for them but it will be short lived. You cant' write a 100% subjective "rule" designed solely to let you pick and choose who you will enforce it against which is exactly what they did. It's highly illegal of them and a complete violation of the 14th amendment. They also can't completely ban braces because of the ADA and the fact they already allowed them. Any more specific rules they try to come up with will only be sidestepped once more by the gun community. They are completely fucked on enforcing this one. It will get turned over. They are just maliciously causing problems in the meantime.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Any pistol over 12", but under 26" and over 64 ounces is to be judged by these checklists.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The ball has "surface area" and thus is considered a brace under the new rule

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pino = kino.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To clog up the works and force glowmorons to process hundreds of thousands of pages of bullshit paperwork.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how about you stop obeying gay "rulings" and do whatever you want?
    every AR needs a stock

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Be a man, disobey
      >Stand up and fight
      >blocks out the serial number
      kek

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He posted his SBR. Post yours.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why the fuck would I want an SBR?
          Just because something is restricted doesn't mean it's good.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do you live in a home? If so an SBR would be great for you.
            Not only are SBR's great for defending your home, they are also great for using in a neighborhood and in cities.
            In fact SBR's are great for 99% of all scenarios; you will never be shooting a "bad guy" at 500 yards with your full length battle rifle, even if society collapses.

            If Armageddon happened tomorrow you would be better off in most scenarios with an SBR than a long barreled rifle; which is why feds want to ban SBRs or make them hard to "legally" obtain.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How many home invasions have you defended yourself against?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                2

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he's reverted back to the reddit-tier "you can't know something unless you personally experienced it" retard mentality
                sad. i hope you grow up one day.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I thought SBR stood for short barrel rifle, not short battle rifle.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I generally go with a suppressed handgun with a light for the nightstand gun. An SBR would not be a bad choice if it were suppressed.

              https://i.imgur.com/X67Yo3m.jpg

              how about you stop obeying gay "rulings" and do whatever you want?
              every AR needs a stock

              isn't. Not only that but while you can use an SBR for home defense with some merit, lots of power and capacity. However, I prefer the handgun because I can easily use it truly one handed and still have a free hand for doors, switches, pets, children or whatever. Yes it lacks power, I'll give you that.

              For me the merit of a braced weapon was that it fell under the rules of a pistol, meaning I could keep it loaded on me in the car. An SBR is very nice for that purpose. However, in my state I am only allowed to have a loaded pistol in the car and not a rifle. So an SBR is useless to me and inferior to a 16". I dont' want an illegal gun because I use my guns, carry my guns, have my guns. What happens if you use that and then the cops show up or you're in a car crash or whatever? Your career is over, is your time owning guns is over etc..

              Regardless of all that, I'd personally rather have a 16" rifle and be trained with accurate use of a handgun in case I need quick access to one. I also prefer shooting handguns in general.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >An SBR would not be a bad choice if it were suppressed.
                But I thought a suppressed .223 rifle ended up being very similar in many ways to a normal .22lr rifle.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you used subsonic ammo.
                You don't have to use subsonic ammo.
                You also don't have to stick with 5.56 or .223

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why not go with something like a Hi Point carbine chambered for .45 ACP?
                It's subsonic (sorta), cheaper than just about every other .45 rifle, and the bullet has a reputation for fucking people up

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                .45acp 230gr is indeed naturally subsonic, same as 147gr 9mm and both are relatively quiet out of a 16" barrel.
                Statistically, there is no difference in outcome between use of 9mm and .45acp. There is no functional difference. I would go the 9mm instead or 10mm because I love 10mm and the extra penetration abilities are useful in some situations.
                However, my argument is the same. I have a trained a lot for a long time with pistols. I can hit what I'm aiming at real good with a handgun. So to me a handgun is just better for moving around corners and being able to use 1 handed.
                Let's say hypothetically you hear a bump in the night. What do you do? You aren't going to call the cops if you don't know what it is. You're going to go find it. You're going to take your HD weapon of choice. Now picture yourself exiting your bedroom. You're in a narrow hallway. Now you have to turn a sharp corner. At any moment an intruder could lunge at you with zero a zero distance gap. If you chose a longer gun, they may have grabbed the barrel first as you rounded that corner with it. You have to take your support hand off to manipulate door handles and light switches. My belief is that a handgun is something I can keep closer to my body, manage tight corners better with and still retain 90% use while my support hand is occupied elsewise.
                Then if I actually do have to shoot it, I keep a short suppressor on it which is still loud enough to scare someone but is light enough the gun cycles confidently. It will also not cause permanent hearing damage. The trade off is that the handgun lacks stopping power. So, training is even more important.

                Just out of curiousity, how many times have you practiced clearing your house with your gun? I'd recommend it.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >useful in some situations.
                Oh cool, what situations have you used them in?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I have found a suppressed mechtech in 45 acp to be near ideal as a 2am home invasion larping accessory for all my bathroom and kitchen clearing needs. I have also killed dozens of varmints with it in defense of the flock; it has enough bolt lag and barrel volume that I can do it without earpro. Not so with a can on a G21, still get a ringing and pop so plugs required.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you used subsonic ammo.
                You don't have to use subsonic ammo.
                You also don't have to stick with 5.56 or .223

                Suppressed rifles are not quiet.
                They just don't send the noise out as far and aren't as ungodly deafening in confined spaces.
                They also make decent flash hiders.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Meds now

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He posted his legal SBR, with the legal trust engravings from when he registered it blacked out.
          Because literally no manufacturer puts factory engravings in that location, but it's extremely popular for people filing NFA papers.
          He's a fahjeet.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I was wondering why his role mark was on the wrong side.

            https://i.imgur.com/qiIgDXd.jpg

            What if we all registered 100 tennis balls with holes cut in them?

            Hey, here's a question, now that stupidly tall optic mounts are in style anyway, will people just use like 8" mounts and bury the back of the buffer tube in their chest to shoot that way?

            It's probably not a good idea since you don't want thump your heart at just he wrong time (protip- that kills you) but it would be a super duper tactical work around.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Probably not, but they might just use Rhett's cheeking concept and not use the buffer as a stock at all.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        are you stupid?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah no i'm just not giving random zealot-retards the tools to fuck me over with.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Michale Douglas

        >talks shit
        >doesn't post with his full name

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sorry about the pussy-eating cancer, bro

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I eat more pussy than cervical cancer, fag.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I love eating pussy, but the other anon was posting as Michael Douglas, who got oesophageal cancer from growling out Catherine Zeta Jones - just saying it would suck to suffer from doing something you enjoy.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Did you know Catherine zeta Jones is welsh, not hispanic?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I do.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Not Anonymous

        >He still goes by the name Anonymous

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        "people" like you are the dumbest fucking retards around. Along with Qtards and idiots who screech about balaclavas being "dishonest" or "cowardly."
        Shut the fuck up and never post again, you braindead monkey cunt.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Post phone number, patriot

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It would serve us right. Get it? Because of Tennis.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >material added to increase surface area for shouldering - 3 points
    >no sights, rifle sights, flip up sights - 1 point
    Well there's your SBR now
    And if that optic is magnified that 4 points by itself.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm actually a little worried about that.
      Are those fuckheads not going to say that no brace, just a buffer tube and a high power optic equal a rifle now?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If it's over 12" and over 64 oz, yes.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If it's over 12" and over 64 oz, yes.

        Jeff Cooper is chuckling from heaven while he looks down through his long eye-relief scope

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm actually a little worried about that.
      Are those fuckheads not going to say that no brace, just a buffer tube and a high power optic equal a rifle now?

      https://i.imgur.com/cyZ6wxs.png

      Any pistol over 12", but under 26" and over 64 ounces is to be judged by these checklists.

      https://i.imgur.com/dOwsMk0.png

      They aren't using the point system anymore, that was proposed but it got canned.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They are using the checklist

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're right. I actually skimmed through the 294 page document the other night. It's troubling because it's subjective. There were like 6 things they look at but I remember these 3 the most:

          1. Surface area that could be used to shoulder but the ATF refuses to define a maximum amount.
          2. An optic with eye relief requiring it to be held like a rifle but no defined eye relief
          3. Promotional material and videos showing the item being shouldered but we live in an age of social media and influencers.

          They are saying that they will look at these and decide. They also use the word "objective" feature a whole bunch of times which should be a clue that they will be making entirely "subjective" decisions on enforcement. They've made a rule specifically to allow subjective enforcement. This is not allowed and is a type of thing that has been struck down repeatedly when it did not involve firearms. It's a 14th amendment issue.
          Yes, I'm going to keep posting this.

          the duality of man

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're right. I actually skimmed through the 294 page document the other night. It's troubling because it's subjective. There were like 6 things they look at but I remember these 3 the most:

        1. Surface area that could be used to shoulder but the ATF refuses to define a maximum amount.
        2. An optic with eye relief requiring it to be held like a rifle but no defined eye relief
        3. Promotional material and videos showing the item being shouldered but we live in an age of social media and influencers.

        They are saying that they will look at these and decide. They also use the word "objective" feature a whole bunch of times which should be a clue that they will be making entirely "subjective" decisions on enforcement. They've made a rule specifically to allow subjective enforcement. This is not allowed and is a type of thing that has been struck down repeatedly when it did not involve firearms. It's a 14th amendment issue.
        Yes, I'm going to keep posting this.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Link to doc

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sure,
            https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/docs/undefined/factoringcriteriaforfirearmswithattachedstabilizingbracespdf/download

            Jumping to page 100:
            (i) whether the weapon has a weight or length consistent with the weight or
            length of similarly designed rifles;
            (ii) whether the weapon has a length of pull, measured from the center of the
            trigger to the center of the shoulder stock or other rearward accessory,
            component or attachment (including an adjustable or telescoping
            100
            attachment with the ability to lock into various positions along a buffer
            tube, receiver extension, or other attachment method), that is consistent
            with similarly designed rifles;
            (iii) whether the weapon is equipped with sights or a scope with eye relief that
            require the weapon to be fired from the shoulder in order to be used as
            designed;
            (iv) whether the surface area that allows the weapon to be fired from the
            shoulder is created by a buffer tube, receiver extension, or any other
            accessory, component, or other rearward attachment that is necessary for
            the cycle of operations;
            (v) the manufacturer’s direct and indirect marketing and promotional
            materials indicating the intended use of the weapon; and
            (vi) information demonstrating the likely use of the weapon in the general
            community.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Yes, I'm going to keep posting this.
          based
          >has been struck down repeatedly
          between this, the bump stock ban, WV vs EPA, and the post trump court's general outlook on guns, this shit ain't gonna stay.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >bump stock ban
            only struck down in the 5th district court. it's been upheld in at least one other district court.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah but its not going to stay forever, there is a precedent for courts to shoot down ATF rulings

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's only a precedent in the 5th circuit. decisions in one circuit court have no precedential weight in other circuits. until the ATF appeals to the supreme court - and the SC takes up the case - and rules that the 5th circuit got it exactly right - the 5th circuit ruling only has any meaning in the area in the jurisdiction of the 5th circuit. the only court decision that provides precedence for striking down the brace ban is the bump stock decision (and that 13-3 decision is a potential indicator of how well the pistol brace ruling is likely to go over) but that decision is only relevant in Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi. so there's a good chance that if the 5th circuit gets a pistol brace case that they'll strike it down as well - but only in the 5th circuit.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >legally a handgun with no grey area, not subject to NFA rules or rules around carrying/transporting longarms
    >justasaccurate when standing/crouching as a rifle
    >compact shooting platform, fantastic inside vehicles or structures
    >literally better than an SBR for most of the stuff you'd run into as a civilian
    >and yall still ain't cheeking

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Firing multiple shots sucks ass though.
      Otherwise I 100% agree. We used them that way for years before braces were a thing.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you use a shotgun-esque push-pull method and your gun isn't too overgassed then it works really well, even for fast shooting. He does it accurately to semi auto shotguns with like .15 splits
        Follow his melanated teachings, rhett is the way, and the light, in these trying times.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/RdyZf8t.jpg

      If you use a shotgun-esque push-pull method and your gun isn't too overgassed then it works really well, even for fast shooting. He does it accurately to semi auto shotguns with like .15 splits
      Follow his melanated teachings, rhett is the way, and the light, in these trying times.

      > Just learn to shoot completely differently than you currently do in some retarded unintuitive shooting style that is worse than what you currently do instead of spending $20 on a Magpul stock

      Sounds like a great idea, anons.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Thats why I've welded 60lbs kettle bells to all my handguards, when I benchrest them it doesn't matter how shitty the trigger is or how intuitively hard I gank the trigger, those sights just don't move

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So why are SBRs haram anyway?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The NFA was originally written to ban all handguns. SBR was considered a loophole for anyone making a concealed weapon from a rifle

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good to know, thanks anon

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Also the reason why some parts got removed and not others is because gun owners and lobbyists are a bunch of fuddsters who only care about their guns and nobody else's

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What the other anon said. If you want a bit more Ian made a video about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsE0naVApPU

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I really don't get why people need an SBR...
    The barrel is too short to give the bullet all the cartridge energy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >need
      Also, not all is still enough in 99% of cases, and it depends on the cartridge. Pistol calibers get 100% powder burn in sub-16" barrels.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >retards think smokeless powder needs time to "burn"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What's it like being disabled?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Plz explain velocity differences between different barrel lengths

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            As long as the pressure behind the projectile is above the pressure in front of the projectile (friction complicates this slightly) the projectile will continue to accelerate.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      remember when people said this about those newfangled 24" carbine barrels? real rifles have 29" barrels to properly burn all that powder.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on your cartridge.
      Additionally, even for rifle cartridges where that does happen, they STILL massively outperform pistol calibers, even including magnum calibers.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just put a brace on and say whoops didn't know there was a new ruling.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Talks about "registering" memes
    >Everybody else argues over the details of the law autisitically
    >Nobody actually talking about big picture stuff like getting rid of the whole NFA and AFT all together
    So this is how it all ends?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I vote for elaborate trolling and mass false filings

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I do it for the memes
        Right, has that ever worked or is this going to be yet another 2020 moment of failure followed by massive amounts of cope and larp?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It extends the wait times and emphasizes how fucking unenforceable this shit is

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >2 more weeks.
            Got it.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

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