Anon Roman news this. They had javelins with integrated atl-atls (rope loop).
If anything in the area of African monkey warfare (javelins throwing) Romans had no match in the history.
>I think it might be useful to avoid getting outranged by archers
So. Romans were aware of archers. But did little in that field. But, the atl-atl they were completely unaware of, that has less range than a bow, would have been useful.
I'm not being mean, but are you legit 12 years old?
traditional atlatls were used with javalins almost as thin as an arrow.
roman javelins were big, meaty cunts. their job was not to be used from the greatest range possible but to cause maximum disruption seconds before meeting the enemy.
Lurk moar, homosexual. Rome was using spear throwers 2000 years before the Aztec Empire existed.
Romans were the undisputed kings of warfare by throwing pointy things and will remain so forever since it became obsolete before anyone surpassed them. Their armies had thrown pointy things of all lengths and weights across history in response to changing requirements.
The pilum, to which you refer, varied in weight from less than 1kg to more than 2kg depending on how far it needed to be thrown and was primarily used by line infantry as a shock weapon for breaking enemy formation at close range immediately prior to the charge. On occasion the pilum was manufactured even more robustly to double as a spear for defence against cavalry.
At the other end of the spectrum, Roman dismounted screening troops and scouts carried many verutum that were half the length, used a spear thrower (an amentum) and could be thrown a great distance. Mounted skirmishers carried lancea, often with amentum, for throwing and sometimes as shortspears.
tldr
2000 years before barbarians would use spear throwers, the Romans had specialised thrown spears and spear throwers of all dimensions for all specialised purposes and the tactics to maximise their usefulness.
>2000 years before barbarians would use spear throwers, the Romans had specialised thrown spears and spear throwers of all dimensions
spear throwers have been used by our ancestors since at least 25,000 years ago
I would have just thrown bees at the enemy or some shit. I could think up better stuff than anything they did in like five seconds. Ancient people were fucking dumb.
atl-atls are super fun to use, must have been a really cool way to combine recreational sports and killing people
they had slings that outranged archers. the pila was useful in penetrating armor and couldn't be thrown back
Roman's had ballista, dummy. They'd sent up 20 of them on a hill and rain down giant spears and 5lb stones, they didn't need caveman shit
>slings
Roman slingers would engage at 300 yards and volley fire lead bullets that could kill even through a helment. Shit must have been terrifying
>still half the range of a bow
Sin nomine, ego...
Pretty cool but maybe not optimal (this means nothing)
Anon Roman news this. They had javelins with integrated atl-atls (rope loop).
If anything in the area of African monkey warfare (javelins throwing) Romans had no match in the history.
>I think it might be useful to avoid getting outranged by archers
So. Romans were aware of archers. But did little in that field. But, the atl-atl they were completely unaware of, that has less range than a bow, would have been useful.
I'm not being mean, but are you legit 12 years old?
traditional atlatls were used with javalins almost as thin as an arrow.
roman javelins were big, meaty cunts. their job was not to be used from the greatest range possible but to cause maximum disruption seconds before meeting the enemy.
>roman javelins were big, meaty cunts
It depends. Velites had small ones meant to be thrown at longer range than classic pilum.
Lurk moar, homosexual. Rome was using spear throwers 2000 years before the Aztec Empire existed.
Romans were the undisputed kings of warfare by throwing pointy things and will remain so forever since it became obsolete before anyone surpassed them. Their armies had thrown pointy things of all lengths and weights across history in response to changing requirements.
The pilum, to which you refer, varied in weight from less than 1kg to more than 2kg depending on how far it needed to be thrown and was primarily used by line infantry as a shock weapon for breaking enemy formation at close range immediately prior to the charge. On occasion the pilum was manufactured even more robustly to double as a spear for defence against cavalry.
At the other end of the spectrum, Roman dismounted screening troops and scouts carried many verutum that were half the length, used a spear thrower (an amentum) and could be thrown a great distance. Mounted skirmishers carried lancea, often with amentum, for throwing and sometimes as shortspears.
tldr
2000 years before barbarians would use spear throwers, the Romans had specialised thrown spears and spear throwers of all dimensions for all specialised purposes and the tactics to maximise their usefulness.
>2000 years before barbarians would use spear throwers
atlatls probably date back 200,000 years at least
>2000 years before barbarians would use spear throwers, the Romans had specialised thrown spears and spear throwers of all dimensions
spear throwers have been used by our ancestors since at least 25,000 years ago
Roma was founded in the 27754 BC
Rome is eternal
I would have just thrown bees at the enemy or some shit. I could think up better stuff than anything they did in like five seconds. Ancient people were fucking dumb.
I would have used dogs and bees. When the dogs bark they shoot bees at you.
What if Romans knew this?
GATE but better
If Romans knew about that photo they would have genocided Britannia to prevent it at the source.
Wouldn't have helped them. The Pilum is too heavy to lose mechanical advantage.
>blocks your path