What extend is the fundamental problem of the scout rifle concept of it being fundamentally a fairly ideal survival rifle for the stereotypical lone wolf survivor in some post-apocalyptic scenario (capable of hunting, sniping enemies from afar and to a limited extend shorter ranger fighting, while being light and sturdy), but nothing else really?
To what extend is the fundamental problem of the scout rifle concept it being*
PLEASE stop making scout rifle threads.
id rather have an ar-10.
PLEASE keep making scout rifle threads
the previous one hasn't even been archived yet.
long eye relief scopes are no better (arguably worse) than a lower cost 1.5-4 power with conventional relief, and for the weight there are affordable and reliable reliable semi autos that are just as accurate for the same weight. it isnt that they are bad guns, its that better options are available for the same price (unless you live in a cucked country like me)
>Americans seethe because it's not an AR
>Euros seethe because they don't have a use for such a gun
That's pretty much it
Well, exactly. The idea is that it's supposed to be the best survival rifle for any given situation, but the ideal survival rifle varies considerably depending on where you live. Even where you live within a particular country. It's not like you're going to be doing a whole lot of globe trotting after SHTF.
An AR probably is the best survival rifle for an American, since they are ubiquitous here. In Europe it would be whatever they can get their hands on and is common where they live.
Scout rifle is number one survival rifle in Europe.
You guys can't get 10/22s?
scout rifles r gay
Sometimes I think Cooper had a fallible level of autism too
>it has to be accurate to 800 yards, but scopes are optional
>the whole thing is in honor of a guy who fought his way across Mexico and Africa with a Winchester '73 chambered in .44-40
The only thing I like about the scout rifle is that its the only rifle I can carry that lets me run as fast I do when I carry a knife in my hand.
CS designers clearly did some research. Can confirm this is true IRL.
Why use a bolt gun when you can use a semi auto with just as much accuracy?
cooper preferred bolt action because it was lighter and more compact at the time, but he wasn't against semi autos entirely.
>'DMR' with a group/point defense
>overmatch [range, armor, optic]
>handiness, practicality [hunting practice, regular use]
>mechanical simplicity/maintenance over semi [sustainment in a parts poverty situation]
This
>volume of fire is important.
Perhaps not an issue in higher population density areas, more in less densely populated areas. This is in part part of the LARP
really even more like.
It’s called a “deer rifle”
Also the long eye relief scope is moronic and gay don’t put one on your deer rifle
>Also the long eye relief scope is moronic and gay don’t put one on your deer rifle
I like having an LER scope on my deer rifle and you can't make me take it off anon
It will be the new meta once Biden bans your AR15
I just banned Biden as a precaution
What the frick is the question?
This, unironically
scout rifles are still a much better "do everything" gun than a 11.5 AR-15.
>generalist gun is better for general use than a specialized gun
okay, now lets see Paul Allens 14"-16" AR15.
They're really the standard ranch gun anon, 223 or 7.62x39. Good at everything all around, if running 308 you can run larger distances, but as you said it's an on the move gun and not a "sniper rifle"
>but as you said it's an on the move gun and not a "sniper rifle"
Didn't quite mean really scout rifle being "sniper rifle" with "sniping enemies from afar", but rather "bolt-action DMR suitable for ambushing people".
Recommend a good budget scout rifle
Light weight and recoil not being severe are ideal
The problem is that it sucks at its own stated role compared to a similar semi auto. If fighting human enemies is important, volume of fire is important.
It's own stated role is "everything", basically, and that includes moving long distances in the field were light weight is a concern. There aren't any semi-auto options for accurately delivering .30cal rounds that can compete with a scout rifle in terms of handiness and weight. These days, I'd still take something like a Ruger SFAR given the option, though
The ideal scout rifle would be a polymer takedown rifle in 5.7 that feeds from a flush rotary magazine with an intergrated suppressor that can be easily field striped
"Scout" Rifle was just Jeff Cooper being PC in his nomenclature wasn't it?