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What does PrepHole think about Me 262
The R4M Orkan rockets were brilliant and would have stopped Allied strat bombing in its tracks if only they were introduced several years earlier.
The plane, idk.
love the file name
it was ok when actually used for interception, engine problems kinda made it meh
very ahead of its time, supposedly could 1v1 a f-16 even today
Top 5 most beautiful jets ever made. Not bad for mankind's first try.
good bomber interceptor due to its high speed and firepower
not so good as fighter because it lacked maneuverability
lack of resources made its production harder and quality of the finished machines worse
I just think it's neat.
>not so good as fighter because it lacked maneuverability
Boom and zoom bro
>be Me 262
Ta 152 was da real wonder waffle
Should have been a dedicated interceptor instead of a fighter bomber. Shooting down bombers should have been their priority by the time it went into service
Overhyped, a lot of people talk it up as being the first jet fighter but literally nothing about it influenced later designs. I challenge you to find a postwar fighter that has a similar engine layout, everyone moved to having the engines further into the fuselage. Otherwise, a good design of its time and certainly a mencae of the air until the P80 showed up. I'd go as far to say it's the airborne equivalent of the Tiger, very cool but very dated
Engine layout diverged, but it had swept wings which the contemporary P-80 and Meteor didn't use
ME-262 wings were not swept enough to influence transonic handling, they were swept to off balance nose weight
The sabrejet was not influenced by the ME-262, its swept wings originated from a combination of novel design and german research papers that had been ignored at the time of WW2
Very interesting plane.
The decentralized production, the fact that it could fly on any ol fuel, the speed of course. It was a weapon of desperation as well as innovation. Had the times not been so trying they certainly wouldn't accept the engine problems and push it into service. Cool plane that could've been great had they had time to properly develop it
I really want to see one of the replicas flying
heritage flight museum almost has an original airborne.
“as if an angel were pushing"
I think it was dangerous on the tactical level but on the strategic it was like trying to turn back the tide with a teaspoon... one that breaks often.
The big issue with what-if's when it comes to making more of this jet, rushing it into service earlier, using it for more interception and so on is that if it succeeds, no one takes into account the inevitable Allied response.
The Wester Allies had their own jet aircraft that did not receive priority in manufacture, research and deployment because their prop planes swarmed the sky. If the Me-262 ever came close to threatening their air superiority those priorities would change in a hurry.
The planes they have would be rushed into production and most likely outnumber the German jets heavily within the year, meanwhile heavy research would go towards new planes or upgraded variants that close the performance gap between early allied planes and the Me-262.
The best a successful Me-262 could hope for is halting the bomber raids deep into Germany but no where near winning the war.
As an air to air fighter it was inferior to Allied P-80 and Meteor aircraft in particular due to it's weaponry. Logistically it was also far inferior due to lower quality engines that burned themselves out fairly quickly. It was however solid as a bomber interceptor, but Germany lacked the means to produce, service, and crew enough aircraft to stem Allied air power as a whole.
If the Me-262 was enough of a threat, the Meteor would have been deployed on the continent instead of being kept on the British isles. I also counter that there was a gap between the Me-262 and Allied craft, as mentioned prior I'd consider the P-80/Meteor superior for air to air.
Overrated pile of shit like everything german,
The engines were so badly designed that they could fly no longer than 2h max before melting and needing to be completely replaced with new ones, all for being just 10kmh faster than propeller planes. Modern jet engines are all based on superior British designs which at the time mogged the german subhumans.
>Modern jet engines are all based on superior British designs
Tank jet engines use the centrifugal-flow of the British engines, aircraft jet engines use the axial-flow of the Jumo 008.
Axial-flow engines are modern jet engines, not centrifugal-flow. You would've been better off noting that the USA had prototype axial-flow engines in the 1940s.
>The engines were so badly designed
I recall hearing somewhere that the reason why the engines died so quickly was because germany's industrial capacity had be so fucked by strategic bombing that they were no longer capable of producing the necessary alloys to build the engines to design specifications, so they had to use inferior materials that couldn't sustain the stress. That the engines would have been fine if germany wasn't already fucked.
>bombing did nothing, germany production rose every year
>look at weapon X, it was totally degraded due to the bombing campaign
will people ever agree on anything?
The engines were so well designed that they actually functioned at all, despite crippling material issues.
Their lifespan was limited, but I would classify that as superior to a jet engine which simply cannot operate at all because it demands a bunch of nickel and other alloys.
A good technology demostrator
Hitler’s on the phone from Berlin
Says I’m gonna make you a star
It’s a really neat looking jet if nothing else
Meteor was better.
flying sexy making anglos seethe muh meteor machine
i prefer the single gun versio
Willie's done quite a job.
sexy but i prefer the me-163
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