They didn't even fricking try. Netflix is such a low budget joke. Fricking up the lore of great stories, and doing it as such shit budgets. Holy frick who pays for this garbage? Just get a superbox.
Could they not just glue one or two random gubbins onto it to make it look more sci-fi? I get that it follows on from them doing the same thing with WW2 guns in the original movies, but it just looks low effort
>looks so low effort
because it is so low effort. disney is shotgunning content out for its own sake. they have no desire to make something worthwhile, just something they can market to shlebs to make them keep their subscriptions. with all the money disney has its incredible to watch them make absolute shit tier TV. like its actually impressive how little they must be trying.
nah its native americans and some tiny "stronk" female injun is gonna be the hero because she dont need no man, it looks very bad even by the standard of predator fanfilms
Looks a bit like the badguy guns from that other movie about the good republic defeating the evil empire.
in particular, the whole dustcover and rear sight block area have been replaced by a weird tube receiver looking thing that's completely different from a real AK, and the lower also looks modified as well. (Don't remember seeing that rounded rear end on any real AKs.) Despite all of that it's still instantly recognizable as an AK though.
One thing that does occur to me, do we know for sure if these are blasters? Ballistic firearms exist in the SW universe and could fit these poorly equipped resistance types, and the fact that they kept the mags on these guns (which are usually the first thing to go with SW props) would make more sense if they're supposed to be guns and not blasters.
AFAIK slugthrowers in Star Wars are almost universally a specialty weapon employed against specific targets that are resistant to blasters for one reason or another. Blasters are cheaper and more effective for the average joe, I'd be shocked if these weren't just the latest low effort kitbash.
Low-tech muskets were a trademark of the Tuskens, but yeah, there wasn't too much of a market for "modern" firearms.
I always liked the old OT-era tabletop game's explanation: Most armor (especially stormtrooper gear) works much better against them, and blaster ammo is exponentially lighter and cheaper per-shot, and can be used nonlethally as well.
What is Tunisia waiting ? This film's backgrounds would attract tourists. In France we know Tataouine mor for its prison than Star wars. Something has to be done.
Lando didn't first appear until Empire Strikes Back.
Is star wars /k/? I've only seen 1-3 when I was 11 or some shit. I really enjoyed playing the original Battlefront 2 on Xbox 360 with my younger brother growing up though. It's a really cool universe. I wish they were R-rated. They're a little hard to take seriously now.
Very /k/. Both in the props used (Sterling SMGs, MG-42s, C96s, StG 44s, etc.) and its historical inspiration (the prequels are basically the Roman Civil War, American Civil War, First World War, and fall of the Weimar Republic rolled into one conflict).
I hate what nigs did to the Draco.
It's actually a decent pistol.
I actually used the wrist brace as a wrist brace and found that it makes for a very accurate pistol compared to my 1911.
Is star wars /k/? I've only seen 1-3 when I was 11 or some shit. I really enjoyed playing the original Battlefront 2 on Xbox 360 with my younger brother growing up though. It's a really cool universe. I wish they were R-rated. They're a little hard to take seriously now.
It's /k/. The prop guns they use are based on real historical weapons and the dogfighting and gunship stuff is cool. Lightsaber fighting has nothing to do with real fencing but there's psychic power and magic involved so you kind of have to give it a pass. Plus there's all the lore surrounding the republic commandos and stormtroopers. Not so much anymore, but years ago /k/ used to have active larp threads about serving as storm troopers on the death star almost every night.
The older movies are /k/.
It's pretty fun to play spot the gun since all of them are just real ones with extra gubbins.
Case in point, this here E-11 Blaster which is a STEN.
It has /k/ potential but that part of it is hardly ever the focus. At its core star wars is an adventure story with heroes and swords and wizards, but the setting could be used for a lot more. Spin offs that could really put the wars in star wars. The trench warfare scene in solo had a glimpse of the military sci fi that could be.
Yugoslav Wars: The New Hope
They nailed the serb in pic tho.
I always preferred the Pacific War in space bit over the space wizards bit. Good thing too, the lightsaber seems to have absorbed all the onions-infused while imperial officer costumes all the obese.
That denim-like cloak gives away
Nice dubs
Ak pattern surviving into 40k makes sense. It’s simple, it’s effective, it rarely jams. It throws heavy projectiles down range at sufficient speed to kill things. Granted most projectile weapons have been replaced by lasguns but stub guns are pretty common especially in poor areas like hives, agri-worlds and backwoods planets where tech has fallen even more behind than normal.
Usually they remove/replace the magazines from guns they turn into SW prosp, I don't really like the vibe it gives off by having a regular ole mag still in. Needs more random scopes and greebles imo.
Honestly, just remove the mag, tape some cylinder to the back, glue an old mobile phone somewhere on the side, and wrap the barrel in plastic to make it look rectangle and you have a cheap prop that is recognizable as a gun.
Aren't half of what make blasters better than regular guns the fact they usually didn't need to reload for the duration of a firefight? 200-500 shots for your average hand shooter, so no need for a protruding magazine.
That, and recharging energy is usually easier for logistics to handle.
Also while stormtrooper armour merely reduces the injury from a blaster shot from instant death to lying around with broken rips, it's impenetrable for slug throwers.
ignoring the disney shit, wasn't it extremely rare for jedi to be able to completely halt the momentum of an object in motion? It took a pretty good amount of the force to pick up a boulder and launch it and needed even more force power to stop it rather than just deflect it
disney shit a shit but wasnt there a scene in one of the new shows where darth vader, like the third most powerful force user in history, couldn't stop a bunch of rocks from being thrown at him by obi wan who is arguably weaker than darth vader
>completely halt the momentum of an object in motion
It'd be enough to just force push to veer the bullet slightly off course to the right or left. Completely stopping it is unnecessary.
presumably slugs travel at much faster speeds than shit we've seen in the movies and jedi don't seem to have very good premonition or reaction time
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>and jedi don't seem to have very good premonition or reaction time
Deflecting blaster bolts is entirely based on premonition and reaction time.
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bruh blaster bolts move at like 50 feet per second in the movies
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They look like they move as fast as tracers and they deflect a shit ton of them better than a normal human possibly could they can literally do it blind that was one of the first lessons Luke was taught in the first movie. Saying Jedi don't have good premonition or reaction time when they have superhuman levels of both is absurd.
But to your original point whenever slugs come up in Star Wars it isn't speed thats the problem, Jedi can react to block them the real problem is that doesn't reflect them it just melts the bullet when it hits the lightsaber scattering the molten fragments that can hit them in the face or hands.
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yes, I too quickly check the wookieepedia and post verbatim what I've read to pretend like I already knew it
>tibanna gas doesn't have volume
its precisely why you need the protruding magazine for the 200-500 shots. iirc hand blasters were only good for like 20ish pull power shots
However a slugthrower cannot have its bullet sent back at the shooter by a lightsaber.
Really a shotgun may be the best option to dispatch a Jedi.
It blows my mind that the lore still has the metal projectiles in slugthrowers accelerated by gun powder
surely they could've figured out rail guns in a few minutes, especially before the execution of all the robe-Black folk
> new blaster design > they carved some lines into the upper handguard of an underfolder AK and called it futuristic
I think it's shit, friend.
Like most of the content Disney leaks out of its diseased butthole nowadays
It's fricking trash. I could have done a better job with cardboard and super glue. Literally just an AK with a little MP-40 stuff slapped on. Low effort garbage and the prop department should be ashamed of themselves.
To fix this I would hide up to just past the gas block in greebles (probably a hand guard from a different and obscure gun and/or some custom made parts) then remove the front sight and replace it with something that is not from an AK or just leave it mostly bare. Also get rid of the magazine or shorten it significantly and add some lights and greebles. Mag should be a squared object having no visible curvature. Also add a well greebled short scope of some sort or a literal holo sight. If you are using extremely iconic weapons like that you HAVE to seriously modify it so it's not so blatantly obvious.
Why are you such a massively insufferable homosexual?
Awful, theres a reason the original only used weird and already futuristic looking machine guns like the lewis or mg34. Wood furniture doesn't look futuristic and the AK is way too iconic already. You can get away with using some real world guns as sci fi props if they look the part and aren't too recognizable to the average viewer but that doesn't mean you can use anything especially not throwing in an unaltered AK.
If you dress up the AK it can work, but really dress it up. They did a good job of that with the AR15s in Rogue one where except for the lower and the rear of the upper the butt/stock/barrel/ect all doesn't look it. Problem is they want what's cheap and available for props. In the 70s it was WW2 guns (and some old WW1 ones). Nowadays the shit they have in stock for props are probably ten billion ARs and Aks and glocks. Unless the director really is passionate about the subject of costuming and so on it'll be a case of what's cheapest.
Five mins job in photoshop but: >Vz-58 >Remove the bolt carrier and just apply some matching color plastic shit to cover up the open chamber area like so. >Attach some basic small retro optic on the top forend stock. >Some machining piping with flutes/holes/gaps/ect covering the gas port up to the barrel >Fill magwell, either some flush with the magazine (Pop the bottom off a magazine and epoxy/glue/whatever it to the magwell >Choose some homosexual AR15 snowflake stock
AK's iconic look is the magazine, the gas ports. To an extent the forestock. But in the case of the OP pic with an eye towards budget: >Remove bolt carrier, cover with plastic (they already did) >Cover up the gas block, barrel, front sight with some large barrel shroud. >Remove magazine, take floorplate of magazine and affix it to chamber.
No more than a 10-15 dollar job in materials and about the same time wise.
>AK's iconic look is the magazine, the gas ports.
exactly, you don't need to cover up the entire gun but you have to change the silhouette. you can see it with all the ot props that were modified, muzzle devices, stocks removed and scopes added all break up the shape of the original guns
>more time has passed between the end of the Cold War and now than passed between the end of WW2 and the first Star Wars movie
Somehow, it still feels weird to have Cold War guns show up in Star Wars, even if they are generation-old antiques at this point.
Presumably they have a bunch of different production teams working in parallel since disney wants to pump out garbage as fast as possible to prop up interest in Disney+ and their shit starwars park.
There are tons of soviet references in Nu-Star Wars to the point where it obviously is not a fluke but carefully considered policy.
Especially the rebel POC wear items directly derived from Soviet WWII stuff.
Yes, it's very obviously an AK, but this is Star Wars we're talking about here. Even the blasters that never had physical props built are blatantly based on real world stuff.
See this, the Valken sniper rifle, which I think was introduced in Battlefront II 2005.
Yeah but a straight up AK is too recognizable even to casual moviegoers. Most won't actually notice that that is an MG42, but everyone and their grandma knows what an AK is.
Looks a bit like the badguy guns from that other movie about the good republic defeating the evil empire.
Im certain that some r*dditor is going to make an AK like that irl just because they saw it in star wars.
lol
They didn't even fricking try. Netflix is such a low budget joke. Fricking up the lore of great stories, and doing it as such shit budgets. Holy frick who pays for this garbage? Just get a superbox.
>Netflix
This is Disney though. What is a superbox?
Damn, the other thread isn't even 24 hours old.
Could they not just glue one or two random gubbins onto it to make it look more sci-fi? I get that it follows on from them doing the same thing with WW2 guns in the original movies, but it just looks low effort
>looks so low effort
because it is so low effort. disney is shotgunning content out for its own sake. they have no desire to make something worthwhile, just something they can market to shlebs to make them keep their subscriptions. with all the money disney has its incredible to watch them make absolute shit tier TV. like its actually impressive how little they must be trying.
aren't they making a new predator movie too? set in the primal era or some shit like that
nah its native americans and some tiny "stronk" female injun is gonna be the hero because she dont need no man, it looks very bad even by the standard of predator fanfilms
The weird thing is that they did. Look at
in particular, the whole dustcover and rear sight block area have been replaced by a weird tube receiver looking thing that's completely different from a real AK, and the lower also looks modified as well. (Don't remember seeing that rounded rear end on any real AKs.) Despite all of that it's still instantly recognizable as an AK though.
One thing that does occur to me, do we know for sure if these are blasters? Ballistic firearms exist in the SW universe and could fit these poorly equipped resistance types, and the fact that they kept the mags on these guns (which are usually the first thing to go with SW props) would make more sense if they're supposed to be guns and not blasters.
AFAIK slugthrowers in Star Wars are almost universally a specialty weapon employed against specific targets that are resistant to blasters for one reason or another. Blasters are cheaper and more effective for the average joe, I'd be shocked if these weren't just the latest low effort kitbash.
Low-tech muskets were a trademark of the Tuskens, but yeah, there wasn't too much of a market for "modern" firearms.
I always liked the old OT-era tabletop game's explanation: Most armor (especially stormtrooper gear) works much better against them, and blaster ammo is exponentially lighter and cheaper per-shot, and can be used nonlethally as well.
We wuz space homiez and shiet.
Spacek-47.
Why isn't it a space draco instead?
There have been blacks in Star Wars since the very first movie.
IN the movie? On screen? No.
You are either troll or have never watched star wars.
How am I a troll? There are no non-white actors on screen in a new hope.
fake fan confirmed
What is Tunisia waiting ? This film's backgrounds would attract tourists. In France we know Tataouine mor for its prison than Star wars. Something has to be done.
>nobody will notice me moving the goal posts
go back to r*ddit, we dont want you here
>uses reddit spacing
You just outed yourself, homosexual
Empirically false
Lando was white you moron
this, Billy Dee Williams himself confirmed it, he may have been a black guy but he was playing a white character
He's a cape wearing blaxploitation character in space.
Quit being moronic.
Holy frick they're getting lazy
Lando didn't first appear until Empire Strikes Back.
Very /k/. Both in the props used (Sterling SMGs, MG-42s, C96s, StG 44s, etc.) and its historical inspiration (the prequels are basically the Roman Civil War, American Civil War, First World War, and fall of the Weimar Republic rolled into one conflict).
I hate what nigs did to the Draco.
It's actually a decent pistol.
I actually used the wrist brace as a wrist brace and found that it makes for a very accurate pistol compared to my 1911.
Is star wars /k/? I've only seen 1-3 when I was 11 or some shit. I really enjoyed playing the original Battlefront 2 on Xbox 360 with my younger brother growing up though. It's a really cool universe. I wish they were R-rated. They're a little hard to take seriously now.
Clone Wars 2003 is prety /k/, defnitivly give that a watch
as for the movies the prequels have prety good /k/ moments
It's /k/. The prop guns they use are based on real historical weapons and the dogfighting and gunship stuff is cool. Lightsaber fighting has nothing to do with real fencing but there's psychic power and magic involved so you kind of have to give it a pass. Plus there's all the lore surrounding the republic commandos and stormtroopers. Not so much anymore, but years ago /k/ used to have active larp threads about serving as storm troopers on the death star almost every night.
The older movies are /k/.
It's pretty fun to play spot the gun since all of them are just real ones with extra gubbins.
Case in point, this here E-11 Blaster which is a STEN.
Its not a sten, its a sterling
>sten
No, they're sterlings
It has /k/ potential but that part of it is hardly ever the focus. At its core star wars is an adventure story with heroes and swords and wizards, but the setting could be used for a lot more. Spin offs that could really put the wars in star wars. The trench warfare scene in solo had a glimpse of the military sci fi that could be.
Yugoslav Wars: The New Hope
They nailed the serb in pic tho.
I always preferred the Pacific War in space bit over the space wizards bit. Good thing too, the lightsaber seems to have absorbed all the onions-infused while imperial officer costumes all the obese.
That denim-like cloak gives away
>AK in the past
>AK now
>AK in the grim dankness of 40,000
Kalashnikov is time travelling gun wizard who never died
Nice dubs
Ak pattern surviving into 40k makes sense. It’s simple, it’s effective, it rarely jams. It throws heavy projectiles down range at sufficient speed to kill things. Granted most projectile weapons have been replaced by lasguns but stub guns are pretty common especially in poor areas like hives, agri-worlds and backwoods planets where tech has fallen even more behind than normal.
Usually they remove/replace the magazines from guns they turn into SW prosp, I don't really like the vibe it gives off by having a regular ole mag still in. Needs more random scopes and greebles imo.
Honestly, just remove the mag, tape some cylinder to the back, glue an old mobile phone somewhere on the side, and wrap the barrel in plastic to make it look rectangle and you have a cheap prop that is recognizable as a gun.
Great to see anor londo in live action and compare it with the game version
Aren't half of what make blasters better than regular guns the fact they usually didn't need to reload for the duration of a firefight? 200-500 shots for your average hand shooter, so no need for a protruding magazine.
That, and recharging energy is usually easier for logistics to handle.
Also while stormtrooper armour merely reduces the injury from a blaster shot from instant death to lying around with broken rips, it's impenetrable for slug throwers.
>and recharging energy
i thought it used gas as ammo
However a slugthrower cannot have its bullet sent back at the shooter by a lightsaber.
Really a shotgun may be the best option to dispatch a Jedi.
Iirc most Jedi (read: pretty much all but the youngest) are able to deflect incoming solid projectiles with the force alone
ignoring the disney shit, wasn't it extremely rare for jedi to be able to completely halt the momentum of an object in motion? It took a pretty good amount of the force to pick up a boulder and launch it and needed even more force power to stop it rather than just deflect it
disney shit a shit but wasnt there a scene in one of the new shows where darth vader, like the third most powerful force user in history, couldn't stop a bunch of rocks from being thrown at him by obi wan who is arguably weaker than darth vader
>completely halt the momentum of an object in motion
It'd be enough to just force push to veer the bullet slightly off course to the right or left. Completely stopping it is unnecessary.
presumably slugs travel at much faster speeds than shit we've seen in the movies and jedi don't seem to have very good premonition or reaction time
>and jedi don't seem to have very good premonition or reaction time
Deflecting blaster bolts is entirely based on premonition and reaction time.
bruh blaster bolts move at like 50 feet per second in the movies
They look like they move as fast as tracers and they deflect a shit ton of them better than a normal human possibly could they can literally do it blind that was one of the first lessons Luke was taught in the first movie. Saying Jedi don't have good premonition or reaction time when they have superhuman levels of both is absurd.
But to your original point whenever slugs come up in Star Wars it isn't speed thats the problem, Jedi can react to block them the real problem is that doesn't reflect them it just melts the bullet when it hits the lightsaber scattering the molten fragments that can hit them in the face or hands.
yes, I too quickly check the wookieepedia and post verbatim what I've read to pretend like I already knew it
>tibanna gas doesn't have volume
its precisely why you need the protruding magazine for the 200-500 shots. iirc hand blasters were only good for like 20ish pull power shots
It blows my mind that the lore still has the metal projectiles in slugthrowers accelerated by gun powder
surely they could've figured out rail guns in a few minutes, especially before the execution of all the robe-Black folk
I think at this point George could probably buy this shit back for a fraction of what he sold it for.
>sell star wars for 4 billion in disney stocks
>sell when it hits the peak
>buy back star wars at a profit when disney tanks it
Genius idea.
> new blaster design
> they carved some lines into the upper handguard of an underfolder AK and called it futuristic
I think it's shit, friend.
Like most of the content Disney leaks out of its diseased butthole nowadays
Why atac did it?
Because they wanted to provide a good camo for the Endor campaign, pretty base.
>in a galaxy far far awa---
Chintzy lazy garbage compared to what we see in OT material and what they did to retro-futurize WW2 surplus.
>no black guys in a new hope
Darth Vader is black
IS THAT STAR WARS??? I HECKING LOOOOVE STAR WARS!!! dude DUDE i have like ALL the star wars funkopops too! heckin based!
It's fricking trash. I could have done a better job with cardboard and super glue. Literally just an AK with a little MP-40 stuff slapped on. Low effort garbage and the prop department should be ashamed of themselves.
To fix this I would hide up to just past the gas block in greebles (probably a hand guard from a different and obscure gun and/or some custom made parts) then remove the front sight and replace it with something that is not from an AK or just leave it mostly bare. Also get rid of the magazine or shorten it significantly and add some lights and greebles. Mag should be a squared object having no visible curvature. Also add a well greebled short scope of some sort or a literal holo sight. If you are using extremely iconic weapons like that you HAVE to seriously modify it so it's not so blatantly obvious.
Why are you such a massively insufferable homosexual?
I'd kinda like a dust cover that looks like that.
For me it's the T-21
Now thats a sci fi gun
Same. It’s so sad that Star Wars is so fricking gay now. No amount of big dick Irishmen or even CIS pandering could change that.
Awful, theres a reason the original only used weird and already futuristic looking machine guns like the lewis or mg34. Wood furniture doesn't look futuristic and the AK is way too iconic already. You can get away with using some real world guns as sci fi props if they look the part and aren't too recognizable to the average viewer but that doesn't mean you can use anything especially not throwing in an unaltered AK.
If they were gonna throw in an AK, they should have gone with one of the bullpup variants like the '74 conversion you can get at Atlantic Firearms
https://atlanticfirearms.com/ak-74-5-45x39mm-bullpup-rifle
>Wood furniture doesn't look futuristic
Wood on a space gun is kino if the user is a smuggler, bounty hunter, or other brand of scum.
If you dress up the AK it can work, but really dress it up. They did a good job of that with the AR15s in Rogue one where except for the lower and the rear of the upper the butt/stock/barrel/ect all doesn't look it. Problem is they want what's cheap and available for props. In the 70s it was WW2 guns (and some old WW1 ones). Nowadays the shit they have in stock for props are probably ten billion ARs and Aks and glocks. Unless the director really is passionate about the subject of costuming and so on it'll be a case of what's cheapest.
Five mins job in photoshop but:
>Vz-58
>Remove the bolt carrier and just apply some matching color plastic shit to cover up the open chamber area like so.
>Attach some basic small retro optic on the top forend stock.
>Some machining piping with flutes/holes/gaps/ect covering the gas port up to the barrel
>Fill magwell, either some flush with the magazine (Pop the bottom off a magazine and epoxy/glue/whatever it to the magwell
>Choose some homosexual AR15 snowflake stock
AK's iconic look is the magazine, the gas ports. To an extent the forestock. But in the case of the OP pic with an eye towards budget:
>Remove bolt carrier, cover with plastic (they already did)
>Cover up the gas block, barrel, front sight with some large barrel shroud.
>Remove magazine, take floorplate of magazine and affix it to chamber.
No more than a 10-15 dollar job in materials and about the same time wise.
>AK's iconic look is the magazine, the gas ports.
exactly, you don't need to cover up the entire gun but you have to change the silhouette. you can see it with all the ot props that were modified, muzzle devices, stocks removed and scopes added all break up the shape of the original guns
>more time has passed between the end of the Cold War and now than passed between the end of WW2 and the first Star Wars movie
Somehow, it still feels weird to have Cold War guns show up in Star Wars, even if they are generation-old antiques at this point.
What's really weird about this is that the Book of Boba Fett already had an AK prop that was already properly converted into a blaster.
Dunno why they didn't just reuse this gat.
Presumably they have a bunch of different production teams working in parallel since disney wants to pump out garbage as fast as possible to prop up interest in Disney+ and their shit starwars park.
Who cares. For a board about """"weapons"""", there's a lot of crybabies here.
There are tons of soviet references in Nu-Star Wars to the point where it obviously is not a fluke but carefully considered policy.
Especially the rebel POC wear items directly derived from Soviet WWII stuff.
they already made a good SW AK bubba with cob vanths gun, lazy motherfrickers
Here's your space gun, bro.
Yes, it's very obviously an AK, but this is Star Wars we're talking about here. Even the blasters that never had physical props built are blatantly based on real world stuff.
See this, the Valken sniper rifle, which I think was introduced in Battlefront II 2005.
Yeah but a straight up AK is too recognizable even to casual moviegoers. Most won't actually notice that that is an MG42, but everyone and their grandma knows what an AK is.