What do you guys think about self defense umbrellas?
Obviously firearms are still superior but I live in Germany so I am more likely to get into a knife/fist fight anyways. Besides that there are no-weapon zones in some cities where you can't carry anything but a swiss army knife, so I don't really wanna have to bother with that. So I feel like an umbrella might be a good option.
I think the idea of getting into a knife fight is moronic in the first place since there is no scenario where you win that fight and don't get stabbed yourself a couple times.
The umbrella on the other hand has significantly more reach, so you could keep someone at distance while trying to run away. I think it would be more for stabbing tho, like a very short spear since the thing wouldn't have enough weight to generate proper force when striking with it.
Great for defense from attacking rain.
Until it starts to get windy.
Yeah I used to own a Kubotan but I eventually realized that it's more of a LARP prop than anything.
You may think this is funny but have you actually fought someone with an umbrella before?
You only read half the post.
>You only read half the post.
No, umbrellas aren't practical as weapon and EDC, knives are.
Get a knife. If the other guy has a knife too,tough luck, an umbrella won't save you.
Get bear spray, never admit it's to use against people, say you have it for animals and aggressive dogs.
It's legal use the most extreme bear spray against any attacker in Germany, since you can use whatever is around you at the time. But technically you're not supposed to use it on people. Policemen unironically tell women to carry that shit if they're worried.
Just don't forget, if you're asked then say you carry it for dogs.
>Get a knife. If the other guy has a knife too,tough luck, an umbrella won't save you.
You are clearly a larper so I will keep this short: There is no situation where you get in a knife fight, stab the attacker without getting stabbed yourself.
>It's legal use the most extreme bear spray against any attacker in Germany, since you can use whatever is around you at the time. But technically you're not supposed to use it on people. Policemen unironically tell women to carry that shit if they're worried.
It's illegal to carry this in certain weapon prohibition zones.
You are right but I feel like ball shots are always a good move. Maybe a thrust to the face and a kick to the balls.
Also I am not sure if these 2 are just some clowns or legitimate but umbrellas do have a significant effect according to them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXyeeEKNO2U
>You are clearly a larper so I will keep this short: There is no situation where you get in a knife fight, stab the attacker without getting stabbed yourself.
Nobody told you to get into a knife fight you moron, I told you an umbrella won't save you from one.
Stop being such an arrogant shithead if you have issues with your reading comprehension.
>It's illegal to carry this in certain weapon prohibition zones.
So don't go there or hide the knife well.
Stop and frisk isn't a thing here, just don't wait for the police after defending yourself.
And work the frick out, you sound like a limpwristed larping pussy.
>muh ball stabbings
homosexual
>You are clearly a larper
>What do you guys think about self defense umbrellas?
Based moron.
>You are clearly a larper so I will keep this short: There is no situation where you get in a knife fight, stab the attacker without getting stabbed yourself.
Stab first and run.
If the other guy has a knife out, just run.
Neither invalidates a knife as a self-defence weapon, particularly compared to a fricking umbrella.
Any rigid stick makes for painful stabbing, but they're also easy to grab and most people are willing to take an umbrella stab if they're willing to stab you with a knife in the first place.
If long knives aren't allowed in the zones, get a shorter one. I'm assuming screwdrivers are out too.
And stop writing like some pompous HEMA homosexual. If you'd know what you're talking about you wouldn't be here talking about umbrellas.
PS: Clothes stop even pointy umbrellas, but they won't stop a knife.
Stop trying to be clever and leave the LARP for other situations.
Better yet, don't go to places where you feel unsafe enough to consider a weaponized umbrella in the first place.
>There is no situation where you get in a knife fight, stab the attacker without getting stabbed yourself.
Here is video of the exact opposite of what you claim can never happen actually happening in real life
There's even a police officer there in that video just standing back like.
"Yeah, knives aren't my job"
“Let them work it out, it’s healthy “
Black folk aren't normal humans. Get me one with whites and I am convinced.
Thrusts don't need significant force, get one with a sturdy spine and sharpen the end if you're going the spear route. I'd look for solid aluminum.
You should carry a bullwhip and disguise it as a belt, you can train yourself to whip knives out of peoples hands or something.
>but I live in Germany so I am more likely to get into a knife/fist fight anyways
So carry a knife. They're perfectly legal and so is defending yourself.
i'd rather run away than go for a knife vs knife fight
maybe i'm a little fruity but i'd much rather have mace or some other spray vs some butthole with a blade
Learn to throw a knife. It's really not a meme, it's a useful skill to have in your toolbox.
Throw it in an underhand sling, like throwing a dart by slinging it. None of this flipping bullshit like in the movies. Practice it and your muscles will get better over time. After a couple years you'll fling it like a machine.
That sounds like a great way to throw away your only weapon.
Why would you only have one knife?
fr, who doesn't have knife, backup knife, and backup to the backup at the bare minimum?
regardless i think it's probably a good idea to keep a spray on you if you are at all concerned about self defense. it's very easy to just grab it and frick them up enough to either run away or do whatever. fights statistically have a good chance of going very badly, even if you're well prepared, so deescalating, distracting and running away is really the best thing you can do if you're at all concerned about actually living. it's not worth dying over some dumbass degenerate's kamikaze attack
What you want to do is hold the umbrella/stick in both hands and thrust as hard as you can into their fricking face. No slapping shots or body blows, just shove it into their face as hard as you can and they will drop hard. Do it in the throat and they are dead.
Yeah that's what I was thinking about. I guess shots for the balls also work. I mean a thrust by this thing would inflict pain pretty much anywhere you get hit.
Of course pain compliance/deterrence is not perfectly reliable but should be good enough in most situations.
>I guess shots for the balls also work.
Why? If someone is trying to hurt you a shot to the face will stop them immediately. It's almost as if people have a barrier of "I don't want to shove a stick into someones face cause it looks like it will really hurt".
Are you even allowed to defend yourself in G*rmany?
Yourself, your property, your honor and all of that of others. There's no duty to retreat in any case either.
Here's a breakdown:
Full moron. There’s no reason to have one if it’s not raining and even then it’s just a metal stick. There’s collapsible metal sticks that are easier to carry. Metal sticks in general aren’t a good option unless your in shape and know how to fight which the fat moronic boomers/autists who buy tactical umbrellas are not.
they're not good weapons. they will not deter an attacker unless you are Achilles, especially if they have a knife. if it comes to blows your hit will be absorbed, your umbrella will probably get grabbed, then they will force you to let go of it with their knife.
having your own knife is like having a nuke. it's mutually assured destruction. in reality knife fights often have one distinct winner and all the "everybody dies" shit is mostly just a meme. it is chaotic though; it's very hard to guarantee that you are going to be the guy that lands the lucky shot.
nonetheless, most muggers are not so motivated they are willing to knife fight, and will be warded off by a knife where they don't give a frick about an umbrella. the idea that you are less likely to be stabbed while "winning" with an umbrella vs. "winning" with a knife is just ridiculous. the umbrella is much less likely to prevent the fight from the outset (they don't fear it) and it's much less likely to stop a fight that began. i would argue you're more likely to be stabbed while using one than if you had a knife.
An umbrella is certainly better than nothing.
You missed your chance a decade ago, for what you needed
>one word:
>razorsword
Unless you're talking about the SPAS-12 umbrella from Black Lagoon, it isn't worth a damn
If you allow your government to prevent you from having a firearm, you don't deserve to defend yourself.