what do you call someone who loads a single action relvolver with all 6 rounds instead of 5?

what do you call someone who loads a single action relvolver with all 6 rounds instead of 5?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A Ruger owner

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What if my single action revolver only has 5 chambers?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I saw Brandon Fagrerras Alec Baldwin video where he tried to demonstrate the gun "going off" by smacking the saa's hammer with an ak mag and he couldn't get a primer detonation. how likely is it to set off the sixth cartridge at half cock anyway

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's not what Baldwin did, I'm betting he had the trigger held down, and then fanned the hammer back and let go, probably by accident

      then since he's a liberal hollywood no-guns cuck he doesn't know how guns work or how he could shoot someone without "pulling the trigger"... easy Alec you already had it pulled back all the way

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's called a transfer bar, been thing since the 70s. Really shitty stuff tends to not have them.

      If it has a transfer bar almost impossible, the hammer doesn't physically touch the firing pin. The bar only engages while the trigger is held down, the hammer falling on its own would hit the frame. Assuming they used a revolver with a transfer bar.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He probably had an uberti with the safety trigger. The firing pin won't extend all the way if you don't pull the trigger.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah it was an uberti iirc, the youtube vid used the same model as the film crew was using.
        not a fan of that brandon guy but the baldwin 'just went off in my hand' debunk video he did seemed pretty well thought out.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's not what Baldwin did, I'm betting he had the trigger held down, and then fanned the hammer back and let go, probably by accident

      then since he's a liberal hollywood no-guns cuck he doesn't know how guns work or how he could shoot someone without "pulling the trigger"... easy Alec you already had it pulled back all the way

      I'm pretty sure I know what happened. People fighting over liability can argue all day but this is what happened. Arguing over whether or not AB is telling the truth about pulling the trigger or not is irrelevant. The live round in the gun is the only thing that matters because the scene was for him to point the gun at the camera the girl was sitting behind and shoot directly at her. He would have shot her regardless.
      >AB hires literal, actual retards to save money
      >retards who don't know anything about guns shoot live rounds out of the same guns they use for props, on set, after hours. (this is fact, they admitted it).
      >Retard loaded 6 in and fired 5, then handed it back to another retard who assumed retard 1 had only loaded 5 because that's how many he fired
      >Retards put gun back in prop safe with a single live round in it
      >Retards take gun with live round in it out during filming and don't realize there is a round in it they didn't put in themself.
      >retard hands gun to AB

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >retards who don't know anything about guns shoot live rounds out of the same guns they use for props, on set, after hours. (this is fact, they admitted it).
        THIS is the only logical explanation as to why there were live rounds on set - tards were doing informal target practice in the surrounding desert w/ the same guns used during filming.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the virgin logical response vs the chad "act of god" response

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. Imo Baldwin's culpability in the death has more to do with hiring an absolute idiot as an armorer to be cheap. If someone is okay with having live ammo on set and shooting after hours with the prop guns, they shouldn't be an armorer

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The idiot armorer was not his only bad hire. His assistant director-the guy who was supposed to double-check the gun after the armorer did--had a history of not giving a shit about gun safety rules. He had ND's on set before, and had been fired from at least one previous production for flaunting safety rules.

          >retards who don't know anything about guns shoot live rounds out of the same guns they use for props, on set, after hours. (this is fact, they admitted it).
          THIS is the only logical explanation as to why there were live rounds on set - tards were doing informal target practice in the surrounding desert w/ the same guns used during filming.

          I think that's the most likely explanation, but there is another possibility. Shortly before the shooting there was some kind of ongoing dispute between Baldwin and a union camera crew regarding safety and pay, and this culminated in the union crew getting pissed and walking off the job. It's certainly possible that one of them slipped a live round into the gun as an act of revenge.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why would an assistant director be in charge of inspecting the weapons after the armorer? I’ve never heard of this in my life and have worked with film armorers before. The AD isn’t expected to have any firearms knowledge, it’s not his job. Maybe Baldwin was doing something retarded, but I’ve never seen an armorer hand a gun off to a director or AD. It goes straight to the actor.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Why would an assistant director be in charge of inspecting the weapons after the armorer?
              I don't know why, but I clearly remember reading from multiple sources when the story first broke that standard union procedure (Screen Actors Guild?) for handling a firearm on set like this goes as follows:
              -Armorer is supposed to check the weapon and make sure it and whatever cartridges (dummies, blanks, etc.) are correct for the scene
              -The armorer and the AD are specifically supposed to double-check again, in the presence of the talent who will be using the weapon
              -Then the weapon is handed to the actor

              My understanding is that the AD has more of a supervisory role here, but I am not in this business, I just remember what I read.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Baldwin had a modern reproduction which has safety features added that the originals did not have.

      >>how likely is it to set off the sixth cartridge at half cock anyway
      dunno, never tried it. But according to the old timers who shot those guns a lot like Ed McGivern and Elmer Keith, the half-cock and "safety" notches in an original Colt SAA design is physically weak and easily broken and therefore not to be trusted.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Example of Colt SAA hammers. The one on the left is new and intact. The one on the right has the tip of the half-cock notch broken off. The leftmost notch is the sear surface for firing the gun. The middle notch is half-cock, the one at the farthest right is the "safety" notch.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          forgot my pic like an idiot

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Example of Colt SAA hammers. The one on the left is new and intact. The one on the right has the tip of the half-cock notch broken off. The leftmost notch is the sear surface for firing the gun. The middle notch is half-cock, the one at the farthest right is the "safety" notch.

        https://i.imgur.com/cQCnBR0.jpg

        forgot my pic like an idiot

        Again, the discussion about the safety are irrelevant. The scene was for him to point the gun directly at the camera (the girl sitting directly behind it) and shoot. He would have shot her anyways.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I stopped talking about Baldwin in the first sentance of

          Baldwin had a modern reproduction which has safety features added that the originals did not have.

          >>how likely is it to set off the sixth cartridge at half cock anyway
          dunno, never tried it. But according to the old timers who shot those guns a lot like Ed McGivern and Elmer Keith, the half-cock and "safety" notches in an original Colt SAA design is physically weak and easily broken and therefore not to be trusted.

          All the rest is addressing anon's question regarding how likely a safety notch failure is, which has nothing at all do do with Baldwin.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Brandon Fagrerras Alec Baldwin
      Wow! What a long name!

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not retarded unlike noguns-op who has never heard of safety bars.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Me. What's wrong with that?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Op thinks it's 1876, and it's unsafe to load the 6th round.
      No one's using a SAA/replica as a carry gun, so this is beyond fucking retarded.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's called a cowboy load. Many anons here are probably very accustomed to cowboy loads both on and off the range.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Someone whose revolver isn't drop safe?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would they load it with 6 rounds instead of 5 if the revolver wasn't drop safe?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Single action
    >Requires you to do two things

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What tickles your spergbrain about that? OFC you have to do two things, because the gun is only doing a single one at a time.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Retard, the drum is rotated right before the shot.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I did this and then mexican carried in my jeans waistband while hunting bears

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Couldn't you just load 6 and then de-cock to rest the firing pin nose between chambers? IIRC the half-cock notch is only there to prevent the hammer from completely falling if the sear slips due to rough handling or drops while the hammer is fully cocked.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The cowboy load was always fud shit to begin with. Even in the time period gunfighters carried with a full cylinder and the hammer in a safety notch. Cowboy load is like the old west version of carrying a semiautomatic with an empty chamber - you cuck yourself for no reason other than autistic distrust of your weapon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      muzzle loaders have a notch to put the hammer down onto to keep it off the percussion caps
      cartridge conversion guns do not have this feature generally, and only some cartridge guns had it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, they definitely did.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A bad Russian roulette player

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >A bad Russian roulette player
      not a bad strat if you can convince the other guy to go first

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It depends. It's one of those old Colts that would fire if bumped?
    Idiot
    Is one of the several modern ones which will NOT fire if bumped because said well-known vulnerability has been adressed?
    Knowing user
    Is a modern one where said vulnerability has NOT been adressed?
    Double idiot
    /thread

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A smart man who knows what the notches in the cylinder are for.

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