What do we think of the Eurofighter?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Could have spent the money integrating Meteor on a late-block F-15's and saved literal billions. Industrial welfare at its finest, effective developmental timeline and unit cost matches that of F-22 while being an entire generation behind.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As says, its kind of a day late and a dollar short. Compared to other 4.5 gens its decent enough but came out in a time where 5th gens are proliferating. The collaborative nature of the EU means that upgrades don't come in a timely manner because it requires too much consensus before anything gets done. Tranche 4 Eurofighters that finally have AESA radars aren't coming until fucking 2025 and only Germany and Spain will be getting them, meanwhile everyone else around them will have been flying F-35s for almost a decade and everyone that hasn't will be looking at getting Block 4 F-35s.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >everyone else around them will have been flying F-35s for almost a decade
        Yeah, on an air force base in the US. Most European countries bought the F35 10 years ago and still aren't flying them in europe

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          out of all the partnered european countries, only denmark doesnt have any on their soil but they'll take delivery of them later this year, which is still miles better than being shackled to the eurofighter program where they wouldnt be getting a modern version for at least another 2 years.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >only Germany and Spain will be getting them
        lmao
        Spain is getting a block 0 model; Germany a block 1 model
        it's the bong Typhoon that will be best with Captor AESA 2

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's been out for decades are you retarded

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Too reliance on US gear is bad for europe MIC.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Without industrial welfare no one would have an MIC

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >unit cost matches that of F-22
      if this were true all f15s would have been replaced with f22 one-for-one

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the same logic could be used for just modernizing the F-4 forever. This might have been acceptable for Germany but most countries in the EF consortium wanted an air superiority fighter not a 4th generation answer to the Iron Pig

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Name one thing a Eurofighter does better than a late block F-15. There's no substantive performative gain over Eagle that can be justified by the 18 billion euros spent. It'd be one thing if they rolled out a stealth fighter at the end, but they sure as shit didn't.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not being a US made plane, Europe's defence industry needs to always be working on the next gen plane while having a current gen in production, otherwise they will lose the capability to build one. You can't just skip a fighter generation and expect to be on top again for the next generation. Its European defence industy policy. Likewise for the US.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think of the Eurofighter

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nobody does

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Austrian Ministry of Finance does.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you piece of shit

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Built for WW3

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so outclassed that the eurofighter development nations had to buy F-35s

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      EF is an air superiority fighter where as the F35 is multirole / Jack of all trades.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The only thing an EF is superior to is an EF export model.

        This thing will be left guarding capital cities in the case of an all out mog fight by NATO with Russia/China/other orcs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      F35 isn't replacing Eurofighter in any of the nations who own both. The UK and Italy bought F35 to replace Harrier and Tornado.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All the problems mentioned to this point and valid, but let's focus on what really matters, it's an ugly plane.

    It's not that Euros can't make cool fighters, the Mirage is sweet, this just sucks.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Much like a European, vapid trash

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    competently designed airframe let down a lack of follow-through on development and upgrades

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It make me hate G*rman more.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its the blandest aircraft ever built.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it was some sort of multibillion dollar European "statement" to use parts from every major nation in Europe which is retarded in hindsight

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How is that any different from the F-35?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The greatest Cold War fighter ever built, long after the Cold War was over.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Obviously with more funding, tech developments could have come faster, but the truth is that Euro Govts held off on putting known tech into production until absolutely needed - for example, CAPTOR has been hanging fire for years and years until the Russian adventure convinced politicians that a little defence capability is needed

    From a technical viewpoint it's the best non-stealth fighter around, and with the bongs' integration of some pretty solid air-to-ground weapons, a multi-role jet without peer.

    An F-22 would outfight it in the sky but can't drop the bombs it can
    Likewise, F-35 at this point doesn't yet have the weapons it needs to surpass the Typhoon in utility, without internal weapons carriage F-35 loses its advantages of stealth
    An F-15 would fall to Meteor

    so in terms of the dogfight,
    F-22 > F-35 > Typhoon > F-15
    but in terms of general utility,
    Typhoon > F-35 > F-15 > F-22

    as such Typhoon is at least #3 if not #2 best NATO combat jet

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >F 15 has the best combat record of any aircraft in history, including all the other aircraft he mentioned
      >this retarded morongay puts it as fourth

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >didn't read, spergs his favourite jet
        A force of F-22s in 1990 would have wiped the floor, just as a force of Typhoons would have, but that proves nothing in terms of relative technical capability today

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >favorite
          >Literally a flawless combat record.
          Truth hurt a bit?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >flawless combat record
            so has Typhoon, so has F-22

            >Gets shot by R-37 400km out.
            Having "the best non-stealth" fighter in 2022 is like having the best musket in 1890 or best bolt action in 1955.

            They should stop putting any more money into this thing and buy F-35s and either finish their new stealth air superiority frame or just buy the US one. Hell, or even buy the Mitsubishi F-3 or Korean shit if you don't want all US.

            The F-35 can't do everything just yet, though it's certainly an excellent strike jet. The Eurofighter fleet has to serve until NGAD / Tempest / whatever is available, and that won't be for some time.

            >buy the Mitsubishi F-3 or Korean shit
            they're not stealth either, and the Eurofighter probably has a better EW fit.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              KF-21 is getting internal weapons. Considering the much higher cost of the Typhoon, both actual costs per unit and per flight hour, and gets timely upgrades (especially now with the export market).

              The F-3 is stealth, it just isn't out yet. The 4.5 gen F-3 got canceled, the new one is full 5th gen, autonomous, drone wingman interface, laser interceptors, etc.

              Looks a bit like an Su-57 in mock ups, which isn't a bad thing. It's an aesthetic plane, it just is vaporware lol.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                KF21 was designed to be specifically superior to the eurofighter and rafale, most of nato will be f35s and kf21s in a decade

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This. Airbus and other euro companies are trying to get an alliance with KAI because they see the writing on the wall

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Airbus is primarily in Korea because the Koreans are using Airbus helicopter designs which they develop further (Super Puma becoming KAI KUH-1 Surion, Eurocopter EC155 becoming KAI LCH/LAH)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                KF21 was designed to be specifically superior to the eurofighter and rafale, most of nato will be f35s and kf21s in a decade

                >KFX wunderwaffen any minute now
                please

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's aesthetic as an F-22 clone. Your Euroshit is ugly and bland.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the gatling gun decimated horse cavalry
        >this morongay ranks it below the M2

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >F 15 has the best combat record of any aircraft in history, including all the other aircraft he mentioned

        the problem with this argument is that the F15s record is old, neither the F22 or Typhon have yet had the chance to engage hostiles A2A and build up a K/D ratio to exceed the F15s

        but that just means shits been relatively peaceful, it doesnt mean shit about their relative capabilities as combat aircraft in the modern era

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Surprised someone isn't buying the basic frame with without the avionics and developing their own package.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A joke, very easy to shoot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao, the baguette is back.
      https://desuarchive.org/k/search/image/-HeSTdBa9mFrC0I27J1SAw/#

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >we

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its a a slightly better gripen for a MUCH higher price

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it is the most menacing sounding fighter jet
    super hornets sound like a vacuum cleaner in comparison

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Watched it at an airshow while touring Europe, absolutely based as fuck noise

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The EF might be the best non stealth fighter around, idc, cause stealth fucks non stealth. And that's said as a hard line no guns fuck guns euro. The EF is like the best bolt action rifle in a time the stealth fighters are ARs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eurofighter has decent frontal stealth though retard
      You cannot tell how stealthy a plane is by looking at it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just like women are more than skin deep right?
        Not vacuous, overly emotionally sensitive damaged petty bio-sack callously yeeted out of a man's rib area and then been continuously ripping his heart out for millions of years?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It does it's job of protecting Europe's skies. Better than any Russian jet.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Gets shot by R-37 400km out.
    Having "the best non-stealth" fighter in 2022 is like having the best musket in 1890 or best bolt action in 1955.

    They should stop putting any more money into this thing and buy F-35s and either finish their new stealth air superiority frame or just buy the US one. Hell, or even buy the Mitsubishi F-3 or Korean shit if you don't want all US.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>Gets shot by R-37 400km out.
      its not 'stealth' but its frontal RCS is lower than anything else that isnt 'stealth' anything thats mounting a R37 is gonna be seen by typhoon long before it sees a typhoon, and the R-37 is ging to struggle to hit a typhoon that is aware its incoming, and when i say struggle i mean ~5% hit probability

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    front canards are cool

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't look that cool compared to other contemporary fighter jets. Doesn't look cool compared to a lot of older ones, too.

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