What did they mean by this? Posted on March 3, 2023 by PrepHole Contributor What did they mean by this?
Bakhmut is fucking brilliant for Ukraine. Not only do they get to bleed Russia with hundreds of losses per day at very little danger to themselves, the terrain makes it easy for them to feign retreat while drawing Russian forces into a trap with all the fresh western supports they getting. I think the next 10-20 days will see a major collapse of Russians in the area.
>very little danger to themselves
what part of being used as artillery target practice for 24 hours a day sounds not-dangerous to you, you stupid unpaid state department intern?
Ukies are in a fortified city heavily entrenched
Meanwhile Russians only got open fields to build trenches in
Use your brain and figure out which is the better position to be in
They’re suffering significant casualties too from what I hear.
UA is using Bakhmut to bleed out the RU army and stop their advance but at one point they will lose it.
>Bakhmut is fucking brilliant for Ukraine. Not only do they get to bleed Russia with hundreds of losses per day at very little danger to themselves, the terrain makes it easy for them to feign retreat while drawing Russian forces into a trap with all the fresh western supports they getting. I think the next 10-20 days will see a major collapse of Russians in the area.
Most intelligent NAFO chud.
What is the point of (you)ing yourself over and over again? The euphoria when you post the screenshot on discord? Lol (you) dumb moron.
Of course discord is the first thing on your mind, projecting chud.
Yeah they are bleeding the Russian army by causing them hundreds of casualties per day while the Ukrainians suffer thousands.
You're a funny guy.
my thoughts exactly
are you really taking Russias word for how many casualties Ukraines taking?
>are you really taking Russias word for how many casualties Ukraines taking?
Nope, the BBC's word
Also, how can Russia have more casualties than Ukraine when they have an 8:1 artillery advantage? The casualties match the artillery numbers
The west fucked up by engaging in this kind of conflict.
>Also, how can Russia have more casualties than Ukraine when they have an 8:1 artillery advantage?
being in cover + having better artillery
>8:1 artillery advantage
anon haven't you been listening to priogjin? they're getting 1/8th of the artillery they're supposed to get
>my favorite doomer said so!
yet Russia advances. curious.
>my favorite doomer
seems to be quite alot of ''doomers'' in the russian MOD and military circles. curious..
lol so this is how world war 1 generals would sweet talk their bullshit
Wagner were literally taking villages on the outskirts of Bakhmut when they were supposedly out of ammo lol.
Not saying it was a bluff, but there's a much bigger chance that some jealous incompetent politician or general was blocking the supply because Wagner gets more praise than the Russian army than some other thing.
Look at any western or Ukrainian source and you'll see that Russia is blasting around 35-40k shells per day on average and 60k in their peaks. Meanwhile Ukraine is firing 5k shells per day on average with peaks at 7k.
Bakhmut is mainly defended by conscripts and reserves.
Their plan is to buy time for the 70k soldiers that are currently being trained in NATO countries to prepare as good as they can for the offensive in spring or early summer.
The war is pretty much in the end game and will culminate in April-June. This is basically Ukraine's last chance to take Crimea or whatever their plan is. If they fail then the west has two options, to either escalate or to negotiate a peace deal because Ukrainians will be exhausting their best men.
Also what's the point of fighting if they fail and Donbass falls? Then they will have to destroy their own cities. For now they are destroying towns and villages of separatists that they don't view as their own people so the don't care about the destruction.
Will they continue to hide in apartment buildings and place tanks in front of civilian houses in Dnipro? I doubt it.
These numbers are all made up on the fly.
Why can't anyone of you discuss like a normal human being here?
Is everyone retarded on this board or what
I'm not clicking a PrepHole thread if it pops up on the frontpage ever again.
>Why can't anyone of you discuss like a normal human being here?
I called you out on the bullshit you tried to pull, that's what every normal, well-adjusted person would do. You're a subhuman playing the victim when you cannot backup your claims.
Cope and seethe, tourist.
It’s not PrepHole man, we’ve been flooded with r*dditors and shills since the war started.
>schizo - the post
>Wagner were literally taking villages on the outskirts of Bakhmut when they were supposedly out of ammo lol.
Those villages combined had a pre-war population of like fucking 500, and it still took them weeks to take them. They were literally propaganda wins and you ate it up like the absolute neanderthal you are.
Ah, so this superior RF advantage your pea brain is touting is responsible for all the glorious RF victories? Since RF has had no victories of any significance, tge logic of your post is destroyed. You are one dense, dumb mother fuck. Go sell your lies elsewhere, you have no power here.
>I think the next 10-20 days will see a major collapse of Russians in the area.
I know this is bait but you're going to have to wait until May, and it won't be in this area.
>think the next 10-20 days will see a major collapse of Russians in the area.
Russia will run out of shells/men/tanks in two weeks. kek
>Operation Citadel was fucking brilliant for Germany
just let Ukraine handle their own front bro
Sending thousands of troops to die attacking a well defended position could lead to an entire side of the front being undermanned.
Pretty much what happened with the Izyum sector when they were trying too hard to attack near Kherson, and then defending an undefendable Kherson.
Tactical counterattack ala Severodontesk inbound
Anon, overextention has literally been Russian's folly this entire war, why would it stop now.
They've expended a lot of troops, equipment and ammunition on bakhmut. If they haven't been inflicting equivalent losses - which is quite possible since fortified urban areas significantly reduce the effectiveness of artillery - then they're in a lot of trouble.
Not to mention they’re literally running out of artillery rounds. The rate they’re firing artillery now is like 10-20% the rate they were firing like 8 months ago.
You can take my washing machine, and you can take my infant daughter's virginity, but you can never take my rubble-filled plot of land.
its not like we didn't see something similar in previous offensives. Russia lost scads of men in frontal assaults against cities in the Donbass last summer and ended up getting routed out of large swathes of Kharkhiv shortly thereafter and had to shore up defenses by pulling the annexation gimmick and throwing mobilized conscripts into the now 'Russian' territories.
Even if they get a truce along current borders tomorrow Russia has lost far more than it has gained throughout this war. You have to be a paid shill or delusional contrarian to not see this.
The aftermath of a ceasefire and peace-deal is going to be devastating to the Russian military no matter what. All those mobiks are going to try leaving as soon as there's no real excuse to keep them, leaving behind shattered units that can't even defend their own country, let alone police another. I wouldn't be surprised if the brass 'extend' their service through illegal bullshit, on top of introducing North Korean-style conscription as a quick fix.
russians are ok with the war as long as they're not the ones having to do the fighting, mass mobilization will result in chaos.
thats even before addressing other issues down the line like how do they plan to train and equip these millions of conscripts.
however neither party wants a truce or even a peace deal right now cause they know their demands would never be met.
ukraine would demand all their territories back and nothing less, russia would demand total capitulation of ukraine and other stuff like staying out of NATO and the EU.
>ceasefire and peace-deal
Why would anyone agree to that when russia has consistently broken every previous agreement?
sometimes there is just no will to continue - in few next years west will deplete its stockpiles and will start questioning continuing support -and Ukraine itself might loose will to fight grinding war consuming hundreds of thousands of their young citizens...
>North Korean-style conscription
The DPRKs regular Army is an all volunteer force with a 8 year full time commitment and every open position has multiple applicants, the social and economic privileges from service are almost the only path to upwards mobility in their society as well as being the only realistic entry point into the party afterwards..
So Ukraine is an empire now?
Yes, it's name is Kievan Rus'.
Severodonetsk and Lysyschank.
You over extended yourself more than you can handle. Which will cause major fatigue among your forces in terms of offensive capabilities and maybe defensive too. They will just lose their momentum.
And remember, the mud season is beginning again. If Putin's still trying to get a big offensive together, he's pretty much blown it.
from what ground units are showing in videos, the low lands between hills are already becoming impossible to drive through, while the hills are fairly dry and easy to operate on. Ukraine has the high ground.
>how do glowtrannies manufacture so much cope?
Your inability to maintain the slightest grasp of operational and theatre level thinking is shared by the Russians you worship and is the reason they're losing.
Is that why they need the entirety of nato funding and supplying them? Because they're doing so well?
>Because they're doing so well?
No, because most civilized countries agree that killing Russians is fun and funny and can be enjoyed from ages 18 to 80
>Is that why they need the entirety of nato funding and supplying them? Because they're doing so well?
Nah, facts don't matter to these people, too painful to accept.
The sad thing is, is that we'll never actually see what a NATO army would do to the Russian one. Trickling funding and equipment, while good for a laugh at the russiyans expense, is just mega blue balls for the civilized world
We already did in 1991 and in 2003.
What NATO army? The only NATO countries that have a real army are the US and Turkey. And Turkey is the only NATO country that has a strong land army. The US land army is a fucking joke. The US is only strong in the air and on sea.
If Russia didn't attack Ukraine, the ukranian army could fucking roll all over the armies of France, Germany and Britain. Heck, the pols would roll over what remains of the 'famous german army' now.
With it's late soviet air defences, Ukraine would tear the british, french and german air force to shreds, and even America would struggle badly to suppress Ukraine's air defenses.
Now think about how would a NATO army fair against the mass of russian artillery?
And forget about taking it out from the air, as the russian air defense would make it so costly for the US airforce that they wouldn't even try it. They would probably try mass cruise missile attack, but the russian air defense is very capable of handling that. And the US wouldn't really get a second salvo off as the russian long range missile artillery would answer and destroy many of the cruise missile launch platforms. Airfields and ships.
No, on the ground any NATO army would suffer horrendous losses before they even reached the russian lines.
What would the backlash at home be in such a case?
>And Turkey is the only NATO country that has a strong land army. The US land army is a fucking joke. The US is only strong in the air and on sea.
not sure if Turkroach...
>the ukranian army could fucking roll all over the armies of France, Germany and Britain.
>Heck, the pols would roll over what remains of the 'famous german army' now.
>With it's late soviet air defences, Ukraine would tear the british, french and german air force to shreds, and even America would struggle badly to suppress Ukraine's air defenses.
Germany lacks an effective airforce due to maintenance issues, I have no doubt that the UK and France could suppress Ukraine's IADS.
>Now think about how would a NATO army fair against the mass of russian artillery?
Better than a Russian army would fair against the mass of NATO accurate and also guided munitions. Remember, the best that Russia has is laser guided, whereas every NATO nation fields at least one kind of shell that selects its own target and attacks it with thermo-optical guidance.
>And forget about taking it out from the air, as the russian air defense would make it so costly for the US airforce that they wouldn't even try it. They would probably try mass cruise missile attack, but the russian air defense is very capable of handling that. And the US wouldn't really get a second salvo off as the russian long range missile artillery would answer and destroy many of the cruise missile launch platforms. Airfields and ships.
I'm being trolled. We know S-400 can't deal with Tomahawk, never mind the stealthier options, because Russian operated S-400s failed to intercept any of the Tomahawks aimed at Shayrat. Further, Russia's ability to target over-the horizon missile artillery systems has been shown to be non-existent in Ukraine, even when the launch systems are only 70km from the targets.
>No, on the ground any NATO army would suffer horrendous losses before they even reached the russian lines.
>The US land army is a fucking joke
Why are nogunz Vatnigs like this PrepHole? I cant even imagine a ground army as or more capable in all aspects including Logistics, SF, Maneuverability, tactical and theater level engagements. Maybe Im just retarded so can some enlighten me on which nation that does it better than has proven themselves in recent combat scenarios? Please friends explain to me where this nogunz vatniger gets this data from?
You see the US pulled out when they said they would and the Taliban took over Afghanistan.
In the mind of the Tankie and Vatnik this means the entire US army was slaughtered by mountain tribes like they were.
Thanks man I needed a good laugh today
I don't know what to say anon, but at least have a (you)
The slav stupidity on display in this post makes it obvious the origin is North Korea or maybe a Chang operation.
No one with any credibility believes aby of this to be true. The Russian Federation forces have been exposed as a sad joke.
Please do continue though with your nonsense opinions. The fiction is amusing.
I seriously doubt the DPRK gives a shit or that they would be that delusional.
>And forget about taking it out from the air, as the russian air defense would make it so costly for the US airforce that they wouldn't even try it.
listen you 50 gallon drum of liquid nig, the 70s era first gen stealth f-117 flew 1300 sorties over a composite western/russian IADS that knew they were coming with impunity and decapitated it. 2800 aircraft then flew one-hundred-fucking-thousand sorties and lost 45 people. btw since then we've built 1000 goddamn 3rd generation stealth fighters and you've built zero. i'd tell you to have a nice day but your unique horse-to-human-transmission AIDS variant will do the job.
Second most powerful army in the world can't handle a small country with some leftover cold war junk?
We have been judging armies based on WW2 standard of "wow they have alot of x therefore they must win!"
Russia poured tens of thousands of men, hundreds of vehicles and countless shells into a battle that became unimportant when their northern front collapsed.
Bakhmut's road connections stopped being relevant months ago, and it's been nothing but a PR shitshow between Wagner and their MoD for weeks. Now Wagner literally bled to death there, and the city has been turned to ruins.
For what? A crossroads they do not need and that the Ukrainans no longer need?
10 km of ground at a rate that makes the Somme look like Blitzkrieg?
>10 km of ground at a rate that makes the Somme look like Blitzkrieg?
Hey, whoa, buddy, cool it with the racism. Russia is making steady progress in Bakhmut - this is their territory gained in SO FAR IN 2023 ALONE.
Zamn, I thought Backmut was like on the edges of Donbas and shit, which is why russkies were so eager to send hundreds to their deaths just to capture it. But they still have half of a province to carve up?! These bros should be preping for the challenges ahead and not blowing their gasket on small little Backmut, fo real
The fuck, man, come on, I told you to ease up on the racism. Do you not see how fucking ENCIRCLED Bakhmut is?
UAlive has that weird line which you probably got confused by
Whoa.....so this is the power of the vaunted russian winter offensive....
Very nice. Impressive.
bravo signor Scimmia, veramente impressionante.
To me the funniest part is that even ignoring belarus, there is the entire nothwestern border where rusroaches are just ... not doing anything? Going full retard in donbas and at the same time up there pretending everything is fine there, just manning their outposts keeping a safe distance lol
>not doing anything? Going full retard in donbas and at the same time up there pretending everything is fine there, just manning their outposts keeping a safe distance lol
No anon, they're doing a lot - they're sitting in their pillboxes and trenches quietly praying "Please not today, please not while I'm on duty"
Well it's a strange war in that even though Russia invaded and shares a land border with the Ukraine, Ukraine is not allowed to invade back, else it will lose support from all its backers. In principle Russia doesn't even have to man that border, it can throw all it has at the Donbas and Ukraine won't do anything beyond light shelling and commando raids.
The Russians may proceed with this assumption at their own peril.
it is until it is not. Like all the "hard lines" this war, from upgrading blankets to lethal aid to releasing heavy machinery.
There Russians can pull out "safe space defense: hide behind state lanes that cant be crossed. In Donbass situation can't be reversed if Russians start action around North and move reserves there Ukrainians can start offensive in Donbass. This is why Russians pilied up all otheir forces in Donbdass.
The Ukrainians know that Western aid is based on the condition that they don't step one foot into Russia proper. For all the talk of Russia fighting holding back and "taking the gloves off", the Ukrainians are fairly limited in their ability to strike anywhere that isn't the Donbass meatgrinder. As a result, Russia can just leave the volunteers from Moscow in these areas to relax and do propaganda shoots.
Nice propaganda vatnick. Serfs should never speak.
In order to win against the Russian Federation Ukraine must take the war into Russia. Seeing Red Square in ruins would only make western countries happy.
This anon is spreading HATO propaganda - here is the real extent of Russia's advances in the last two months around Bakhmut. Kotel is closing, kholkhols will be cooked soon
anon, not cool, why are you diminishing our great victory over fascist ukr*ine by making the gains look small? they need to look at least... 2 times bigger
Oh my god Ukprops getting utterly BTFO
>Now Wagner literally bled to death there
Wagner has mercs fucking around in various countries in Africa as we speak.
The narrative that they are somehow bleeding out in Artyomovsk is a meme.
Why are they recruiting convicts then? Get your shit together, vatnik.
This exact scenario played out last year, and since bakhmut is relatively insignificant...
Did you morons forget about the wonderful effects of the victory at severodonetsk?
spoiler alert: it depleted the manpower of RU, LNR and DNR forces to such an extent that Kharkiv became possible.
Bakhmut has little value beyond being a symbolic victory
The fact that Russian and ukrainians bet their lives on it by the tens of thousands really speaks to how little they are worth
IIRC the original Ukie plan was just to hold Bakmut for a week the withdraw towards the Slovyansk-Kramatorsk-Druzhkivka defense line. 7 months later and Russians still haven't taken the city despite suffering terrible losses by anyone's definition.
The Ukies are running out of soldiers, though. Russia just tosses retards with guns to shoot anything that moves and bombs areas that might have enemy. Russians are worthless but Ukies are not.
It's true, Johnovich from Kherson-oblast here, every day 4 entire HATOs fall in a futile attempting to hold back the mighty unstoppable Russian army. These are dark times for us all HATO must sue for piece as possibly soon.
By cope do you mean genuine analysis of a strong defensive position? Why would Russian shills be begging for Ukraine to retreat so hard if this wasn’t very bad for Russia? Our enemy is telling us to retreat, why the fuck would we ever listen to them until we want to?
Russia has turned the tide of the war. As we speak, they are now capturing Bakhmut at great cost to both sides. Americans should stop supporting Ukraine. It is now a lost cause, as well as [culture war grievance].
>Russia has turned the tide of the war
>as well as [culture war grievance].
My god your right, they are the real enemy, not the Russians. We must turn all our attention to them instead of Russia.
Some schools put pronouns on chalk boards! Compared to this, Russia is our friend. We must withdraw all aid immediately from Ukraine and allow Russia control over the Donbass.
It really do be like that sometimes
The Russians are the good guys in this thing. Christ is king. Russia is winning and globohomo USA is in panic mode. Christ is king
> Russia is winning and globohomo USA is in panic mode
Panic mode about what? We’re getting to finally end the Cold War this shit is dope as hell.
Seems like projection tbphwyf. You morons with your retarded mud people religion have way more to be panicking about than the US.
> Christ is king
Can you invasive morons please just an hero and then go away? Why did you pieces of shit invade and start smearing your unironic religion on fucking PrepHole? What kind of gay invader does that?
If the Russians are the good ones, why are you here and not on vk garden gnome?
His religion isn't unironic. No unironic Christian would believe that God's will for the largely Christian people of Ukraine would be subjugation by Russia, a nation with more practicing Shamanists than Christians who go to Easter Mass.
have a nice day vatmoron
>loses a piece of the true cross
Even God hates the Russians, internet Orthodogs on suicide watch.
Russians are in schism with Constantinople, yet act like they represent the Orthodox Church to the whole world.
Russians are blasphemous gays who should all have been executed a thousand years ago.
No gods or kings, only Men.
Christ doesn't like it when you rape children, pidorashka.
This is literally using the Lord’s name in vain
Your church is fake and worships dead commies instead of Christ.
>verification is not required
>What did they mean by this?
>they take Bakhmut
>Russia finally has their desired propaganda win after months of nothing
>Weeks and weeks about how good is the Russian federation on tv
>Suddenly Ukrainian spring counter offensive
this is cope btw
No, this is Patrick.
Hello Patrick, this is dog.
No, THIS IS SPARTA
Oh yeah sorry I guess russia will continue to hold bakmhut... oh wait, they STILL don’t have it
Do morons around here still not understand strategic and tactical victories? Bakhmut would be a tactical win, but a strategic loss.
You win, but the cost is not worth it.
This is pre-cope. Cope comes later. Remember covid?
>100% effective, goy.
>60% effective, goy.
>ok it won’t prevent infection but it prevents transmission.
>there’s no evidence your heart problems are our fault.
If anyone's curious to see what it's like to look at the world from the point of view of a retard, just read this post.
>dejected glavset whore trying to change the subject
The fact that bakhmut is little more than ruins really enables ukis to bombard the vatniks that pour into it to get their photo ops. It'll be pretty based
Depends if glowies want to share that info with the ukies.
Zelensky was able to visit Bakhmut only because Russian intel sucks so much.
Those memes originated here you teenaged newfag cunt.
End your life, glowchud.
This person is a paid shill and they masturbate to chud porn and hate themselves about it
many such cases
You stink of new
>Russians projecting about increases in bots lol
Like what are you doing here garden gnome? Why do you even know this language lol
Case in point. If anyone is doing research about online propaganda, come to PrepHole the day Ukraine retreats from bakhmut. You’ll have all the data you could ever need.
>come to PrepHole the day Ukraine retreats from bakhmut.
So, no cauldron? Not even a small kettle? Its kind of suprising to see you are managing your expectations,
When do you think that will be, two more weeks?
Got all the data I needed during the Kherson collapse, tankie.
There was actually a study done on this by a western uni, can’t recall which one off hand. Showed that pro Ukr bot presence far exceeded Russian bot presence, not that we needed any more evidence given the state of this board.
I know what study that was and it's shit, it was done by one female student not a university.
For a start, it was twitter, most Russian infowar targets far more vulnerable websites.
The methodology was also highly criticised, it assumed people copying other peoples posts or just retweeting were bots, this alone effectively nullified the shill narrative.
Thirdly even if it was true (It isn't), twitter is a western wesbite, it bans Russian bot farms get killed far more heavily because they get reported for being filthy dirty foreigner shills.
And lastly, not all western bot farms are governmental, you get corperate ones that just follow the average political line and shill their products.
So, as usual. You got nothing but "I totally read this study on bots". Next time you read a study, read its criticisms, that's literally how it's meant to work and grow.
Guy who said study was done by a single female student [wrong], guy who said it was critiqued for X reasons [wrong, please provide source], guy who wrote an essay coping about it [wrong]. Dumb morons, shill elsewhere.
There was this study, can't remember the source, where i banged ur mom
Oh, I remember that joint study that aimed for the same bot study, and found the russian to ukraine bot ratio is 8:1. I dont remember which uni it was, but they also said something about russian bots being more obvious
there was another study that conclusively found the subjective truth that you are a flaming gay
Lol, this clown is still active?
There is no panic
Why are russians so fucking esoteric? I'm convinced that most russian casualties are caused by russians believing they have plot armor because of "muh russian destiny".
If your enemy conquers your cities, you win.
Now's not the time for cope. That comes later.
How can you have a nice day, THEN go back somewhere? Doesn't dying heavily imply that you can't do anything anymore?
>have a nice day, and go back to r/ukraine.
How can I go back to somewhere I've never been? I could go back to your mom's pussy, I've been there?
Still chuckling over Matt Gaetz getting btfo when he asked
>Is Azov getting US weapons
and the guy replied
>Not that I am aware of, but if you have informaton
and the guy was like 'aha got you' and then cited proof of this
>From Global Times...
>Sorry, is that Global Times from China?
That was pretty funny, reminded me of an Australian senator of their Greens - like, raging commie party - asking an official about why they were secretive about how at sea boardings were conducted by the navy, when they were filmed and shown on a TV show, the guy replied
>Uh, Senator, are you referring to the fictional TV programme "Sea Patrol?"
She actually fucking asked about a TV drama series, kek
Guy probably got shown a video and told it was proof of actual boarding. Another one up there is some news broadcaster in UK showing ARMA footage suggesting it was the IRA shooting down a UK helicopter. You could see the soldiers auto go into prone and the bouncing truck and clipping through the vehicle. Good times.
We all do silly mistakes. Not politician related but a few weeks ago, some guy taped a phone in a live studio for a football (soccer) match in UK and rang it, the ring town was a woman having very load orgasmic sex. Went on for ages until they cut. It was under the seats. Funny in context but had that been a bomb lmao.
It was not a very good TV show lmao
That just adds authenticity to it!
>Another one up there is some news broadcaster in UK showing ARMA footage suggesting it was the IRA shooting down a UK helicopter.
South Armagh was nuts, it was more like Afghanistan than than Belfast there. The reason there were so many helicopters in South Armagh was that the brits couldn’t even safely get vehicle convoys in there anymore. All the posts had to be resupplied by air.
This seems like the right thread to ask the right people - has Russia taken Bakhmut yet?
No. They’ve finally re-entered the city after being pushed out six months ago and it looks like the Ukrainians are holding the city proper with a relatively minor force of 2-6000, fighting has shifted mostly to the flanks, where Russia is Kursking themselves in pursuit of kottle. They probably could take the city if they focused their attack there (Ukraine would just retreat) but my suHispanicion is that they want the optics of an encirclement no matter how few they catch.
Fuck it must be a ruin
Whatever did they mean? Incidentally, watch out for roof tiles, anon.
>What did they mean by this?
bakhmut is buckbreaking the russian military and wagner
Russia cucked themselves by expending significant manpower and materiel on a town with almost zero strategic significance
Overextended russian army.
Russia is using what? 20% of all of it's forces?
This level of cope in the western media is beyond extraordinary, and the only thing that actually tops is is the amount of braindead people believing it....
>Russia is using what? 20% of all of it's forces?
i forgot russia only borders ukraine
97% of the Russian army is in Ukraine
>Russia is using what? 20% of all of it's forces?
How do you manage to sound like a fsggot while calling someone a chud? worthless gay lol.
Yes, Steinchenko will counter attack in the spring.
> uhhh what is mariupol?
Ever heard or the word "Phyrric Victory"?
Then you better read up on Phyrrus of Eprius:
>Pyrrhus lends his name to the term "Pyrrhic victory" which stems from statement he is alleged to have made following the Battle of Asculum. In response to congratulations for winning a costly victory over the Romans, he is reported to have said: "If we are victorious in one more battle with the Romans, we shall be utterly ruined". The term Pyrrhic Victory has therefore come to signify a victory that was won at such cost that it loses all worth.
A victory so costly it turns into a strategic defeat. Like the other side sacrificing pawns in chess. Yes they lose something but only set up the conditions for their victory.
what is it with Slavs dying en masse for small towns nobody ahs ever heard of
This battle stalled a massive force of jna the town fell in the end but it bought us time to mobilize and organize the defense of the rest of the country
Similar to mariupol
Note that people where calling jna the 5th largest army in the world and also that they would never shoot at there own people after vukovar nobody was thinking that
I wasn't shitting on the Croats, I just find it astounding how in every conflict modern conflict opposition Slavs get bogged down in towns smaller than the grand picture of what they say there goals are
I still think Croats are cunts and rude, but I still think they've proven themselves on the battlefield again and again
>I still think Croats are cunts and rude
Fuck you gay
Vatnik cope is really reeking of desperation. Even if they take Bahkmut, so what? Fucking pathetic that the "second" largest military can't take a fucking town in a neighbouring country.
Amazing how their arrogance in last March went from "PUCCIA will win!!!" to "soon we'll take Bahkmut!!!" Lmao
The Kaiser's men have taken the Interdimensional Superfortress of Ham and are marching towards Paris. France is doomed. The war will be over by the end of 1918.
The same shit as with Severodonetsk - sacrifice way too much resources to take one town to later not be able to defend yourself in places like Kharkiv.
god is real
and he hates russians
They didn't get nearly enough shit for "MUH EU WILL FREEZE IN 2 WEEKS" gayry, imho.
they were simply projecting, Russia is like that during peacetime
the trannies that infest this site delete posts even just poking fun at all the glowtrannie retardation
If Russia is able to win Bakhmut it will be a phyric victory as they not only wasted resources and men, but also completely annihilated Bakhmut so it's strategic importance is now minimal. It will be a political victory for the Russian government and would probably make them able to justify forcing more conscription
Bakhmut is 84 miles from Luhansk. That's a 2-3 hour drive. What the fuck are the Russians doing?
Honestly if putin takes Bakhmut maybe he can bs his way to support from China and turn this around. Yeah its kind of dumb but apparently thirdies believe everything the Russians say uncritically so it might just work.
>oh god I'm coolminating too early aaaaaaaaaa
it's coping. ukraine lost ~25k of their best troops in bakhmut.
whatever you say underage bot
They can just grow more supersoldiers in the nato biolabs no big loss
All of Ukraine's best troops died last summer in Sevierodonetsk. Since then it's just been conscripted children, Polish mercenaries and resurrected Nazis. The children are the ones who retook the Kharkiv region in September and the Nazis are holding Vuhledar because they cannot be killed by any weapon forged by man. Nobody knows where the Poles are now.
Polish mercenaries are manning the leopards in bakhmut outskirts, of course.
Sorry to let you down but all that was killed Bakhmut was the 25,000 Necromanticly revived SS troopers. You lost all those troops for nothing
FUCKING HATO NAZI NECROMANCERS SCUMBAG
staged photo shoots like this wit guys that never hit the deck - no speck of dirt on those guys... makes you think
Taking it over doesn't mean they can hold it from a sustained attack.
The tweet he's replying to is a parody account, of course?
Pyrrhic Victory. Shit is older then Jesus vatmoron, but then again expecting you to know any history other than the shitty WW2 fanfiction you get taught in Russia is too much.