What can Ukraine pull off with these 3 extra Patriot Batteries?

Ukraine is getting an extra Patriot battery from the USA in the next few days, also a new battery from Germany soon and another from the Netherlands as well.

Now that they are getting more Patriots could we see more of them used closer to the front rather than in cities to pull off more SAMbushes like the one that hit that A-50 or that one time where like 5 Puccian aircrafts went "eternal flight" mode in like the course of 3 days?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i think protecting cities from missile chimpouts is more important than setting up ambushes i an

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Patriot missiles for Shaheeds seems like a bad and unsustainable trade. Ukies will have to use something else to deal with Russian strategic drone attacks and use Patriot closer to the front to suppress Russian combat aviation.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Ukies will have to use something else to deal with Russian strategic drone attacks

        Honestly this war and use of drones seems to show that return of flack cannons might be plausible.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and what is gonna protect their f16s anon?they will have to pull at least 2-3 system to slap them into the airport
      otherwise they are good as dead

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm starting to think that we are giving out too much expensive shit to Ukraine. What if something happens? We would be defenseless...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ziggerbot doubt planter

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >What if we give away too many weapon systems from 40 years ago? We'd only have <30 years old weapons systems to defend us.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think "we are gonna nuke you for this westoids" sounds more in character Ivan.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      America has about 60 operational patriot batteries and another 40 in stock

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Da, what if we need Patriots to fight off texan separatist airforce or a Canadian invasion fellow american comrade. I'm from Pennsilvanya oblast and I agree with this message.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Our own power grid

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It used to work pretty well, until ERCOT got colonized by out-of-state leadership. And not requiring "green" producers to guarantee production opened the barn door for bad behavior.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The great freeze wasn't due to the greens. It was due to companies never investing in winterizing their infrastructure to the point where gas froze in the pipes. This is a 100% made-in-Texas problem. It's okay, though, nobody did shit for this event. My company had toxic chemicals leaking all over the place the whole winter, and the next winter, nothing changed, so we just did it again.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You left out the part where some of the NG pipeline heaters were switched from burning some of the NG they were transporting to using electricity. And then those heaters weren't prioritized for receiving power when things started going south.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I should probably add that I'm not claiming that practically *everybody* messed up--because they did--but some of those decisions made by the folks in charge were pants-on-head stupid.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Sigh. Yeah, I got that backwards. I hate double-negatives. Should have been "didn't mess up". Get off my lawn, I need a nap, etc.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Texian

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          listen it's really hard to pretend to be texan, it's not like it's the most common american stereotype

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >it's not like it's the most common american stereotype

            The brash New Yorker is still the default US stereotype in Europe. Probably why they liked Trump so much

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I thought it was guys in cowboy hats, with a pistol in one hand and a cheeseburger in the other???

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          listen it's really hard to pretend to be texan, it's not like it's the most common american stereotype

          I think you guys are moronic Euros.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texian_Army
          He's using a historical term used by Texans when they formed an independent nation.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No one uses that moniker.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >if you don't know this obscure term that only has limited relevance in a single state, you are an Euro!
            have a nice day, texoid. No one cares about your delusions of independance

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Cope, he changed it to Texan when he got found out

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I used to live in Texas when i was a kid, and i don't think i've ever heard anyone there refer to themselves as a "Texian". It's the kind of pointlessly archaic term that only shitposters and russians use, like "Anglo-Saxon".

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I think you guys are moronic Euros.
            I'm from Dallas, only libertarian morons use "Texian".

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >libertarians use "Texian"
              fricking why?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Probably because it was the original term, in the very beginning.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >time to saddle up and dig spur comrade pardner

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >gestures vaguely in the direction of our 9,000 F16s

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ~840 F-16s at the moment.

        Many are getting upgraded to the F-16V standard as well.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If you count the National Guard ones then you should get over 1000 in total

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Are you saying there are more F35s than F16s in the world right now or is that number on USAF F16s or something?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I believe 841 is USAF + USANG

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >surely another patriot battery is all America has left!
      >they will be defenseless!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If something happens russia will turn into nuclear hellfire, so you better watch your tone, pidor.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Muh nooooks
        Final NATO red line?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Easy Ivan, we have 15+ battalions of patriots and more on the way. Krauts are building a new FACTORY for these things with the Dutch as we type, just here in the states 12+ systems and and 600+ missiles are produced each year, and that is not enough TZD so the production is ramping up as we speak. And the best part is? Other than goncern-trolling, brow-raising and glove-removing on mongolian basketforums, YOU will do absolutely. fricking. nothing. in response. LMAO. I thought you guys cares about saving face

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Wonder why they went with individual containers rather than quadpacks for the MSE. Can't fit into a quadpacked container? Higher PK and thus less projected to be needed?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          patriot will fire at minimum 2 interceptors per target, but it'll fire as many as is required to ensure adequate PK. it'll also fire automatically in case of any failures during intercept. additionally, the fire computer doesn't have a set order of fire for the cans. it'll select whatever missile in whatever can has the highest PK. all told its just easier to have them individually packaged so you can individually reload them.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          MSE adds some HE. That HE has to go *somewhere*, in this case increasing the diameter. So, no quad-pack for you.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        is patriot still considered state of the art? why make more of these instead of making a new, better version

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Why when you can keep upgrading them. Not until the missile cannot handle any more upgrades will a replacement be needed.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Patriot is just a name at this point. We're not like Russia where we need to call it the Patriot 1000 or something because we upgraded the radar or gave the missiles a different warhead. Patriot missiles are vastly more capable than they used to be. And even the older ones we gave to Ukraine were never that shitty.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Damn, I remember this cope from like april 2022.
      >Us stockpile of Javellina missile empty now, all given to banderites, who sold them. Maybe our allies in taliban tank forces give them a visit *~~)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Indeed, Germany definitely needs to be on high alert for air attack from Austria, and you can never discount the potential of the Mexican strategic missile and bomber forces.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Germany definitely needs to be on high alert for air attack from Austria
        Dollfuss's spirit will rise from the grave and get his revenge on the perfidious Prussians.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/yDQNndW.jpeg

        >Germany definitely needs to be on high alert for air attack from Austria
        Dollfuss's spirit will rise from the grave and get his revenge on the perfidious Prussians.

        We are never going to attack the Germans
        We are going to send help to build a better Germany
        again

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If russia can’t do shit in Ukraine and has been on a stalemate for 2 years I think israeliterope is ok. Also NATO has muh nooooooks. As for the US they have a frickton of coldwar surplus in forgotten barns in colorado, I think they’ll be fine. Remember all that shit they gave to Afghanistan and Iraq?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is the most moronic argument and it saddens me that brainless 5th columnists repeat it so often, when the calculus is so simple: A dead Russian now is a Russian we won’t have to kill in the future

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Baltics could take on russian invasion and embarass even pirozgins advances and it would end up like it did in 1920s.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >bait this glaringly obvious
      >still gets a million (you)s

      This board is like shooting fish in a barrel for shitposters

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >bait
        Ziggers and /misc/troons are legit this moronic though and might post shit like this unironically.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      defenseless against who? there's two hostile countries on the planet that you would actually need patriots against and you're already fighting against one of them albeit via proxy. might as well use them and get good combat data to develop the next generation than let your shit rust and wait for your hypothetical war.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Who is we?
      And defenseless against who?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t care what they get. So long as they pay cold hard cash for it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    wish poland would place air defence on their borders to shoot down missles which violate its borders

    NATO is soft

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      same

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Poland's AA capability is very limited
      - post soviet aa that was still operable was donated in first months of the war
      and western systems are slowly trickling in with arrivals till 2029 and full capability even later...
      polish military hardware stockpile is probably more depleted than Russian right now.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Total Mainstay Death

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wait, three? Is this a joke? They’re having their power infrastructure blown up and they get three? They’re already right now looking at major blackouts next winter. So far AD hasn’t stopped a single power station from being taken out — it just takes one cruise missile to write off a turbine room which takes years to replace because the equipment is very specialized procured by only a small handful of manufacturers which don’t have spare production lying around so new orders just have to fricking wait. Their power plants have been targeted for months now why aren’t they provided the AD resources required to protect those?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Patriot is expensive, there aren't that many batteries in the rest of the world either.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ehhh the US has 500+ that are retired..... at least i assume they are retired wiki's not clear on if those are in storage or we sold them and they are counted in other armies active equipment
        That said is there any words on MEADS? Does MEADS just make use of the Patriot batteries or is it a new vehicle? I don't see any listed on wiki as being used so i'd assume they use the Patriot launcher but..... that doesn't seem quite right.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Nevermind read further and we just upgraded our old launchers, Pac-3 MSE does seem decent though and we are shoving them in VLS tubes now so that's nice.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >So far AD hasn’t stopped a single power station from being taken out
      Much obliged.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Yes, major blackouts! Energy will run out in two weeks!
      >What do you mean they're connected to the EU energy infrastructure

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Surely THIS winter they will freeze!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        zigger narratives require a memory of maximum two weeks when that 1980-tier NATO surplus was totally blown up (again for the 100th time from a different angle), and two weeks into the future when Ukraine will be totally finished

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Pidor, this is the third year you're threatening Ukraine with freezing winters

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraine is on the EU grid now lmao. This cope is now out of date.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You got to realize the vatnik and vatnik shills only see about 2-3% of actual news and even that's twisted.

        They really think Ukrainians have lost 250000 men and Russians are about the same. They think the actual 80,000 kia to 600000 kia is some outlandish number.
        They don't realize 1500 Russians will be kia or die from past injuries every single day.

        They think it's made up numbers. They don't see the meat packing plants, the organ farms, the body reprocessing center turning vatniks into pig snouts, the mass rapes.

        They think that's all make believe and talk about israeli neo Nazis and anglo America cause lol XD life is a prison to them and that's why everyone gets prison raped. Nothing is straightforward
        Points are made by questions not answers when they argue
        They don't want to say anything to give themselves plausible deniability

        It's truly a prison culture

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Impervious to the news I see, cool. This won’t even bother you I know but I want to see willful ignorance in action.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Randomly brings up Ukraine power outage reported on western news which we all see
            I can't tell if you are agreeing or arguing
            Poes law

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It’s very simple. I posted about how Russia is hitting Ukranian power infrastructure here:

              Wait, three? Is this a joke? They’re having their power infrastructure blown up and they get three? They’re already right now looking at major blackouts next winter. So far AD hasn’t stopped a single power station from being taken out — it just takes one cruise missile to write off a turbine room which takes years to replace because the equipment is very specialized procured by only a small handful of manufacturers which don’t have spare production lying around so new orders just have to fricking wait. Their power plants have been targeted for months now why aren’t they provided the AD resources required to protect those?

              An anon replied to that telling me I’m coping because Ukraine is on the EU power grid here:

              Ukraine is on the EU grid now lmao. This cope is now out of date.

              and you replied to that anon with a long post about vatniks in a news echo chamber — after literally being ignorant of actual news about mass blackouts in Ukraine as a result of having half their power generation blown up. Is the irony of your statement sinking in?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >actual news about mass blackouts in Ukraine
                *yawn* May we see them?

                >half their pwoer generation
                [citation needed]

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah or Westerners that filter out any negative news and have spent the last 2 years jumping from one cope to the next, never wondering how Ukraine hasn't won by now if it's all going so great.

          Yeah Russians are beyond schizo by now, but it's not one-sided for Ukraine. The frustrating part, like that comment mentioned earlier, is that it all comes down to Western support.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Making this post to appreciate the clever name of the Patriot. It really is a good work of branding.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Better air defence. What they frick do you think?

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They can replenish their losses and that's itrkgt

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No patriots were destroyed though?
      No the decoy you spammed from 6 different angles wasn't an actual asset.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Decoy
        Yea buddy, decoys don't explode like that.
        Wishfull thinking and cope will not win this war.
        >Captcha: THOT

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >still claiming that's a patriot
          Wishful thinking and cope will not allow you to outrun the snail.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Wasn't that a vampir

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Hmm.

          https://i.imgur.com/cCAU5nu.jpeg

          >still claiming that's a patriot
          Wishful thinking and cope will not allow you to outrun the snail.

          has a point; that secondary was *ridiculously* large. I wouldn't expect 4xPAC-2 to make that big a fireball.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Decoy
        Yea buddy, decoys don't explode like that.
        Wishfull thinking and cope will not win this war.
        >Captcha: THOT

        Im not a vatnik but this dude seems to think it was real

        ?si=McuzZstYSInc7c8B&t=305

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Only poltards from uhg belive in those dumb "debunks". Everyone else understands ukrainians also have losses.
          https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/03/09/a-russian-drone-spotted-a-ukrainian-patriot-air-defense-crew-convoying-near-the-front-line-soon-a-russian-hypersonic-missile-streaked-down/

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >David Axe
            The guy whose claim to fame was talking shit about the F-35 based on a report which debunked his own bullshit on the last few pages?
            Plus, wasn't it an Iskander rather than a Khinzal?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >David axe bad
              Sure, take ukrainian source if you didn't like that one
              https://english.nv.ua/nation/russia-trying-to-knock-out-ukraine-s-air-defenses-as-planes-fall-expert-says-on-patriot-hit-reports-50400076.html.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >two Patriot launchers
                I knew about those.
                It's DEEBLY GONCERNING when people say "a Patriot was destroyed". I thought that this was a different event where the full battery was caught lacking.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This fricker was major source of doomerism back in 2022, vatniks loved sharing his videos.
            NATO won't share intel so he's forced to work with what he's got which is shit the Russians publish. What he thinks is meaningless, he could be either be genuinely misguided or he may be playing 4D chess by overstating Russian capabilities to get more military funding. All I know is that if you were watching his channel for the first few months of the war, you'd be convinced Russia had won by Christmas 2022.

            Im realistic about the war, I want Ukraine to win but it wont be easy. You cant believe the west media who said they were going to sweep Russian positions with the new tanks, but you cant believe Russian media either - this dude doesnt always give good news but its an interesting summary of events

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >the west media

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This fricker was major source of doomerism back in 2022, vatniks loved sharing his videos.
          NATO won't share intel so he's forced to work with what he's got which is shit the Russians publish. What he thinks is meaningless, he could be either be genuinely misguided or he may be playing 4D chess by overstating Russian capabilities to get more military funding. All I know is that if you were watching his channel for the first few months of the war, you'd be convinced Russia had won by Christmas 2022.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Levels of ass in the ass not seen since the VEE DEE VEH dropped into the sea.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Likely just replacing old Soviet systems that don't have ammo

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is to replace the destroyed ones. Lol

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >2022
      Really scraping the bottom of the barrel

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    More zigger butthurt for starters

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Boost interception of russian missiles from current 120% to 150%.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Theyre going to be used entirely to protect energy infrastructure from missile chimpouts

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >What can Ukraine pull off with these 3 extra Patriot Batteries?
    time

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As you said, shoot down more high value aerial targets from the R*ssoids. At least if someone (*cough* Sleepy Joe and Scaredy cat Scholz *cough*) doesn't cry and b***h again about Ukraine using them offensively.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I would rather get the ones being made in Germany if im being honest.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >picrel
      Probably not as much as the braindead gay zigger outside to be fair.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I trust a vatBlack person to know what gay smells like.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The German Patriots are quicker to deploy/reposition and so better for SAMbushes. It would be ideal to do a chain donation where US Patriot go to Germany and German Patriot goes to Ukraine.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just FYI,

    The security agreement that Zelensky and Biden signed yesterday (2024-06-13) includes delivery of five more PATRIOT batteries, supposedly over the next couple of months. Maybe sooner. Fricktons of ammo to go with them.

    What will Ukraine do with eight new PATRIOT batteries?

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What can Ukraine pull off with these 3 extra Patriot Batteries?
    It can shoot down a fair number of Russian aircraft

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