What can the Tatmadaw do? Is it fricked?

What can the Tatmadaw do? Is it fricked?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If they're fricked , Myanmer is going to descend to total chaos with the Muslim Incursion. I don't get why these rebels are even fighting the gubbmint when they both have a common enemy the jihadists. It's pretty clear once they defeat the gubbmint soldiers the non-muslims are going to get curb stomped hard.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The muslims are a small minority in the west of the country though, and aren't even the biggest threat the junta even considers (who would be the Kachin in the east).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dont worry. India will swoop in to dismantle and muslim uprising.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can't wait for inevitable Pakistani whining.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd say only a 25% chance of the junta facing a complete collapse. For all the problems the Tatmadaw face they're up against a smattering of ethnic groups with a questionable ability to coordinate and even worse equipment which is why we've not seen a rapid collapse. Realistically what any side needs to win is outside support but absolutely nobody wants to get involved.

      The real winners will be warlords controlling a local mine or letting someone else rip up a rainforest. And autistic DeviantArt portfolios. same as it ever was.

      >Myanmer is going to descend to total chaos with the Muslim Incursion

      This isn't the Middle Ages.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The real winners will be warlords controlling a local mine or letting someone else rip up a rainforest
        Sounds like The DRC after/during the Congo War(s)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >rebels are even fighting the gubbmint when they both have a common enemy
      Asians have a thing called convictions and dignity unlike ypeepo that throw it out the window in favor of menial gains at first chance.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Myanmer is going to descend to total chaos with the Muslim Incursion
      >Incursion
      From where? The Muslims are native to the country.
      They're thoroughly oppressed. They'll just be adopted by one of the rebel factions probably, some of them are working with them already and Muslims just aren't a military power in the country.

      >I don't get why these rebels are even fighting the gubbmint
      t. Tatmadaw
      Your comments about the Muslims make much more sense in light of this.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >native to the country
        I thought they were imported labour from the subcontinent?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I thought they were imported labour from the subcontinent?
          No, that's Junta propaganda.

          There's a grain of truth to it but saying where the Rohingya came from requires defining all the terminology very carefully and nearly everyone who answers that question is lying by twisting definitions.

          The Rohingya themselves claim to have been in Burma since 300BCE. There's no evidence for it but there's pretty clear evidence that some similar people, possibly Rohingya ancestors, lived there for maybe 2000 years of occupation and it's known that this wasn't the Karen etc. Modern Burmese didn't reach the Rohingya's territory until maybe 1500CE.
          So the Rohingya were definitely there first but then you have to define who the Rohingya even are.

          Various wars, persecution and famine from 1500CE onwards up to and including Colonialism and WWII brought Bangledeshis into the area but were those Rohingya? The Junta says so, the Rohingya say they were just immigrants who assimilated with an existing population of Muslims who were closely related.
          If you're a Rohingya in Bangledesh and there's no food but your cousins over in Burma have a farm, why wouldn't you move there and settle with your extended family who have food and jobs? Does that make you immigrants when some Karen soldiers 50-100 years later decide they want your children's land? Children who were born on that land?

          Whichever the case is, almost no Rohingya were born anywhere except in Burma. Their parents were mostly born there, their grand-parents may or may not have been born there but many have clearly been there for millennia.

          The real answer is that ethnicities aren't so easily defined and almost always straddle borders. Cultures are more of a continuum and not an absolute and exclusive label. The use of such labels is nearly always by nationalists, whether to control, rule or persecute the population being labelled.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Rohingya are imported labour from the subcontinent
          This is basically the same argument that Serbia makes about Albanians btw and for the same reason.

          >X are not a real people
          This is what is always said by people who want to enslave, genocide or just steal land from other people.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    jihad good
    Supreme Buddhism bad

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It will be funny to see how neighbors react to sectarian civil war that follows.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's why Thailand are busy with the border security stuff with Myanmar lately, they're bracing for what's to come.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not like that would be new. Myanmar has been in a continuous state of multiple, concurrent sectarian civil wars since they gain independence in 1948. The country has literally not experienced a single day's peace in its entire history.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ideally the mohammadeans will be killed and exiled with cause for real now. Preferably with square bullets to teach them the error of their ways.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're pretty much fricked, and lately they have had mass desertions and their morale is super low. I think they even have started to force conscript men as they're getting low on soldiers. Problem with this civil war is that there is super many factions with different ideas, ideology etc and most of them are not currently fighting each-other and have a common enemy which is the junta. After junta fall, then everything can basically happen.

    But most likely Burma will be divided among their minority groups and they will declare independence or become autonomous within the country. I can't see how Burma will be on country again as they have like too many different ethnicity groups that is now fighting and they probably want their own states. Plus we also have the whole Golden Triangle Syndicates that is working on the Burmese-Thai border and along the Chinese border.

    This civil war is super interesting and unfortunately doesn't get the cover it deserves. Also history of Burma is fascinating plus the whole Golden Triangle which includes CIA, DEA, Taiwan and Thailand etc.

    Also, there was an interesting thread not long ago about some skrimish between chinese and burmese golden triangle gangs. Super interesting read, wished that I saved the thread.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A lot of these factions decided to group together against tatmadaw
      They undoubtedly know that china is a threat
      I wouldn't be surprised if it it became United States of Burma
      aka USB

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is the junta losing? Bad day for Xi

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Xi and Russia losing is always funny

      But Xi wanted the Junta to fail though, operation 1027 was China pulling the strings.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >But Xi wanted the Junta to fail though
        That was when he thought that he'd control rebel factions. As it is, control of the capital is absolutely going to be by a western-aspiring faction because who goes to China to restore democracy and civil liberties?

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    whats the gun hes holding?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      burmese galil with dumbed down sight

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Xi and Russia losing is always funny

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >cross
    Nice, young fighter. May God help him win many battles.
    The Lord is a Man of war.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What can the Tatmadaw do? Is it fricked?
    Probably. They fricked up when they pissed off China.
    Their only chance of survival was to cozy up to China and supplant the maoist guerillas etc that Mao supported long ago.
    If they went on an anti-western kick and sold themselves to China as a puppet dictatorship opposed to democracy and civil liberties while funnelling resources to Chinese businesses, they could have survived.

    Unfortunately for them, they allowed Chinese gangsters to operate instead of party-affiliated oligarchs and now that door is probably closed.

    It's possible that China might forment a coup within the regime forces to reset relations but it's unlikely they have the influence to do it because the Tatmadaw are mostly anti-communist (because of fighting the maoist guerillas for decades).
    It's more likely that western alphabetics will sponsor a coup within the regime forces who will stand down on atrocities and try to make a peace deal with the rebels but after how it worked out last time, it's hard to see the rebels going for it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chinese gangster has been there since the 60s, with the help of CIA they literally created the golden triangle syndicates ,and those were affiliated with Kuomintang as Mao wanted them all dead.

      recommended read: Narcotopia by Patrick Winn

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >CIA created Chinese/indigenous gangs to support KMT exiles
        Oh yeah, and Vietnam war moved it along too.
        One more reason why China sided with Maoist guerrillas.

        The Junta had an opportunity to get China on side by cracking down on these but they chose the money and moral flexibility of the gangsters over "the right thing" and it's bit them badly.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Somebody needs to go over there, unite all of the junglenigs under one banner, and lead them to victory against the junta becoming a local warlord in the process.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doing this in real life instead of hoi4 is how you get every finger digit on both hands cut off while you stand on hot coals

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doing this in real life instead of hoi4 is how you get every finger digit on both hands cut off while you stand on hot coals

      I believe there are some ex-ADF volunteers over there, although I haven’t heard about them for a bit.

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