What are the strategic implications of US command posting a picture on Twitter of an Orlando class sub that is currently near Iran?
What are the strategic implications of US command posting a picture on Twitter of an Orlando class sub that is currently near Iran?
Glowies chest beating about Iran. Theyve only done this a hundred thousand times before. WW3 confirmed
It's honestly pretty gay. They did those missile tests near North Korea/China too and it's like, what's the behavior I expect from North Korea or China, not the United States. That's third-worlder saber rattling cope and it makes you look pathetic.
It's what navies are for, they are force projection institutions.
Third-worlders don't have navies, so they seethe .
Import the third world, become the third world.
Orlando class?
Ohio class
never mistake my beloved Orlando for the disgusting no man's land of Ohio even again
Imagine being proud of living in a tourist trap. Tell your boomers to get back down to the retirement communities, they're starting to shit up the roads again, God knows they're bad enough as it is.
>t. John Appleseed from Ohio Oblast
Ohio has the National Air Force Museum, AKA the most cool planes in one place on planet Earth, and therefor will always be better than fricking Orlando.
Wright-Patt's airforce museum is fantastic. I used to live a few miles away. Now I live a few miles from the National air and space museum which also has a massive collection. Hard to say which is better. The one in Ohio is better for USAF specific history, the National air and space is better for overarching aviation history and non-military aircraft (though they still have plenty of those too).
I'm sure there are a few other museums in the US of similar size/scope but Wright-Patt and National air and space will always be a little special to me.
>they know about the Orlando Class
shit we've said too much USisters
It's manned exclusively with people from Orlando. Make of that what you will.
In that case someone should radio them and tell them they're on the surface, they might not know.
> Orlando class
???
The glowies are using to for mind control, to force the Iranians to beat up school girls
Whats it gonna do? Nuke Iran? LMAO
One can only hope
From its location Moscow is also in proximity btw
Looks like a show of force to me, these subs are almost never posted
Some of the Ohio class SSBNs including the USS Ohio herself were converted to SSGNs that carry an absolute frick ton of cruise missiles instead of SLBMs
Hows the numbers of Maritime Tomahawks looking? We'll do your whole navy at the same time.
Though looking at the tweet it says it is the USS West Virginia which has not undergone the conversion. It's not meant for Iran, though. SSBNs generally just hang out in the deep ocean. Their missiles have the range to hit basically anywhere on the planet and their main concern is being safe from the enemy.
How does one really go about confirming the identity of a SSBN?
Carefully.
Really though, they're numbered on the conning tower.
Real answer is that navies carefully record the sounds of different boats doing different things so that each have a distinctive audio signature. "Oh. That's K543, you can tell from the 220khz whine from the failing bearing that they still haven't replaced in the Thingbobsit MK2 when they spin it up to discombobulate the air independent pressurised air aeration filter."
Both surfacing subs and long range missile test once in a while are a demonstration of military capability and a technical necessity.
There will be a LOT of missile tests once the ancient Minuteman III gets replaced with a new ICBM in a few years.
Iran is currently being color revolution'd to be America's new arab ally
Biden will split from the Saudis
Iran isn’t even arab moron
>Muh Indo-Europeans
Shut up lmao
They're Persians.
So they're slightly bougier shitskins.
They got raped by mongolians and arabs so badly that there's nothing persians in them anymore
It will be.
Pretty pointless - even as a threat.
ICBMs are designed to go halfway around the planet to their target
Parking the SSBN in the Persian Gulf means they'd have to go straight up then almost straight down again to hit Iran rather than a smooth ballistic arc
Plus now they know its in there, all the Iranian Navy have to do is keep sweeping the Straits of Hormuz as a chokepoint to keep it boxed in for some depth-charging.
>literally dumb posing gives away the subs 2 major advantages for a worthless PR stunt
It’s a reply to the vatniks flexing poseidon
It's probably one of the tomahawk conversions otherwise there's no purpose to do a patrol in the Persian Gulf.
>currently near Iran
The Arabian Sea is the waters between the Saudis, Africa, and India. It's not all that close to Iran.
It's the USS West Virgnia, and she's packing Tridents.
they only have to sink their flaship now and 20 nato ships will be blocked from leaving 5D shatranj
SLBMs are meant to be used from close to their target if possible. That's half the point, they don't have to go halfway around the world and thus hit sooner.
But also
>Parking the SSBN in the Persian Gulf means they'd have to go straight up then almost straight down again to hit Iran rather than a smooth ballistic arc
Look up depressed trajectories bro.
Subs don't carry ICBMs anon they carry SLBMs. One of the goals/terrors of them is prompt strike capability.
It's not about Iran anyway it's about Russia.
>Plus now they know its in there, all the Iranian Navy have to do is keep sweeping the Straits of Hormuz as a chokepoint to keep it boxed in for some depth-charging.
lol. Iran doesn't have the capability to find a sub even in that choke. And they aren't declaring active war on the US and directly engaging our Navy you fricking moron. Unlike with Russia, there is nothing stopping the US from instantly obliterating Iran in that scenario and they know it.
If this picture can be geolocated, a single Iranian marine could sneak aboard and hunt down the crew one by one for sport over the next three years.
Looks to me like they might be somewhere with water.
big if true
Good morning anons, what are we mad about today?
Might be threat, subs can fire cruise missiles and I think the US is warning the Iranians that their drone factories are going to get hit soon
Yeah I think he drone factories are going to say hello to a dozen or two tomahawks.
>Orlando
Who even are you?
You’re only the 5th homosexual that corrects OP, that’s who YOU are
Who are you?
>t. of complete insignificance
Even an gun type outdated fission bomb nuclear weapon can be fairly small with a yield of 15kt and extremely reliable. If Iran had just one of those from Russia then the US would no dare attacking. They could virtually place on in any container ship and detonate it inside a US harbour.
Friendly reminder that every US ship with a nuclear reactor is getting an HEL that can blind satellites and destroy boost phase missiles in the next 10 years.
Atmospheric scattering would make that infeasible. Unless you're within a few miles of the missile in boost phase there is no way you're gonna destroy it with an HEL unless it's got a frick ton of power, which seems unlikely since the navy is talking about a 600kW laser in the 2030s, which doesn't seem powerful enough to do what you're describing.
They're saying in some places that they're going to potentially be at megawatt class by 2025. It's anyone's guess what power will actually be fielded but they're trying to make it seem like that's on the menu.
Well the only currently fielded naval laser is HELIOS which is a 60kW laser meant to dazzle/disable sensors and drones. It is planned to be upgraded to 120kW in the next several years.
I don't see anyone (publicly) discussing megawatt class lasers anytime soon.
The DDG(X) is planned to be equipped with 2x 150kW lasers and 2x either 300kW or 600kW lasers for CIWS depending how development goes over the next decade with actual deployment of the lasers sometime in the mid to late 2030s
So megawatt class seems a bit of a fantasy, at least this decade.
And GMLRS was initially thought to have a max range of like 60km, which eventually became almost 90. Don't get me started about AMRAAM. All this shit is undersold, specifically so that shit like this https://www.militaryaerospace.com/sensors/article/16722085/military-eyes-prototype-megawattclass-laser-weapon-for-ballistic-missile-defense-in-next-seven-years
Can muddy the water and keep people like us guessing. Maybe 10 years, maybe 15, who can say for sure?
It's dead jim
> MDA is not requesting any money for its “Directed Energy Demonstrator Development” (DEDD) project this year, according to the agency’s fiscal year 2021 budget request. Congress appropriated $116 million for the DEDD project in FY-20
Though really it got moved to the overarching laser development program run by the DoD, which has a much longer timescale in mind for megawatt-class (10-20 years).
This is not really disproving the potential for deliberate obfuscation via missives between beancounters. If anything it fits like a glove.
Still, your original comment of "megawatt class by 2025" is safe to say is entirely incorrect.
Maybe 2030, but I doubt it.
>In the next 10 years
Was my actual original comment, vague and flippant as it was.
Friendly reminder that USC and Los Alamos have been working on applications of nonlinear optical phase conjugation and virtual photon time reversal since we stole Yakov Zel'dovich's work from the Russians in the late 70's.
Bro. Shut. The frick. Up. Do you WANT Einstein to show up outside my house and shoot your mom in the face?
That's a NYC class, dumb pleb
Inviting the Iranians to do something stupid that will get them stupid prizes.
Nothing wrong with that, I recall a navy commander recently suggesting to have four Ohio class submarines permanently surfaced and patrolling in chinese and arctic/russian waters as a deterrent.
The Ohio class is virtually indestructable, doesn't matter if any enemy knows where it is or not. They can tank missile after missile.