What are the implications of the F-117 still being used in 2022?

What are the implications of the F-117 still being used in 2022?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AMERISHARTS USING 70s PLANES LOL
    THE GREATERST STRONGEST NATION IN THE WORLD MY ASSS LOLL

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      70’s? try 1950’s

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        B-52 still works great for its new role and helped rape the Russians badly.

        You use it in cases where you can also get away with the Specter gunship.

        It carries an absolutely retarded payload. It will generally carry:
        >8 Harpoon missiles or another similar payload missile for ground targets.
        >4 AGM-142 Raptor missiles
        > 51 500-pound bombs
        >30 1,000-pound bombs, for 55,000lbs of high explosive to drop.
        >20 AGM-86C conventional air-launched cruise missiles
        > 12 joint stand-off weapons
        >12 joint direct-attack munitions, JDAMs >16 wind-corrected munitions dispensers (guided cluster bombs)

        It can level as much shit as a decent sized artillery battery firing away for a long time.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ahem

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nice furry art.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Its annoying, because it means that stealth has stagnated (in terms of being used as a testbed for radars like it has been) or that (if it were being used operationally) something has been found unsuitable with the F22 or its replacement.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The F-117 is a bomber with a completely different role than the F-22 or its replacement. They're almost certainly being used as testbeds for new stealth tech.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The F-22 can do the bombing role just as well as the F-117, and the F-35 beats out both of them at it. The testbed hypothesis makes a lot more sense.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Wrong, F-117 can internally fit 2x2000lbs bombs, the F-22 can only fit 2x1000lbs bombs in it's internal bay.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not that stealth has "stagnated", it's that stealth has been proven to be just a tool in your belt and not a "I win" button. Just because stealth planes are harder to spot on radar does not make them invisible or undefeatable. Stealth also costs a lot of money and results in tradeoffs in design that result in it being less adept compared to more traditionally designed planes. You want a balance between capabilities.
      The F-117 was clearly experimental in every aspect. And that's fine. We have learned from it and moved beyond it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Against its designated opponent in Europe it may as well be a I-Win button. If the button works (you push it and then you win) I don’t see the need for a new button.

        Why do these 3rd worlders cope with these strange pretend threads?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >it means that stealth has stagnated
      Or radars did. Or there are no new radars around to worry about.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What are the implications of all your ancestors successfully reproducing, but then there's you?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The craftsman that build these planes must be really talented. Do you think every F117 produced is unique? Like a really nice sportscar

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's a good plane with good design and technology that doesn't need to be replaced yet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It's a good plane with good design
      Didn't they have to invent a new flight computer or something just to keep the thing in the air because the shape has such poor aerodynamic qualities?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yeah it's nicknamed the wobblin' goblin.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's not a bad thing. Fighter jets are made inherently unstable too as it allows for greater manoeuvrability, a human pilot would be unable to fly them without flight computers

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          But that instability means the computer is constantly bleeding energy stabilizing the flight.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So what? Its a fighter jet, not a passenger aircraft

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It's not a fighter jet, it's a light bomber. They have no guns and no a2a capability.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >no a2a capability
                I know this isn't realistic and would never be done, but would it be technically possible for them to carry some kind of a2a missile in the bomb bay which could be dropped and launched against enemy aircraft?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You could probably retrofit the bomb bay into a pop-out a2a missile launcher like the f-22 has. You'd lose the ability to carry any bombs since they only have a 5000lb payload but it could make for a pretty nifty stealth-specific escort platform for B-2s and B-21s. Obviously the exact radar signatures are impossible to know (as was discussed extensively in the last thread), but all evidence points to the f-117 at least having *comparable* stealth capability to other more modern aircraft whose chief advantages over the nighthawk are speed and maneuverability. If all you need is something to cruise along with stealth bombers and fire over the horizon missiles at enemy planes, the nighthawk probably still works just fine.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The problem is the F117 has no radar. It would need to piggyback off an F-35 for that, and at that point why fly through F117?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              But instability increased manueverability isn't an asset for the F-117 since its only used as a bomber despite it's designation.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Meant for

                It's not a fighter jet, it's a light bomber. They have no guns and no a2a capability.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >a human pilot would be unable to fly them without flight computers
          Meanwhile in the su-33...

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The development of those controllers has reached the point where you can buy one 10x as fast for $20. Modern quadcopter controllers have FAR more capability than the plane did. I'm sure it wouldn't be a stretch to modernize the fly-by-wire to make it fly on rails.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    that it is being used as a adversary aircraft with stealth characteristics for training purposes

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's used to represent OPFOR "stealth" tech in training

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The US is half a century ahead of everyone else.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If they're being modernized with that silver shit for reintroduction as some have suggested, then the Air Force has clearly found a niche for them. There's a bunch of them and all the airframes have very low hours, so I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be used if they were useful.

    >but muh 70s tech
    If they're still good enough to defeat enemy radar than it really doesn't matter how old they are, does it?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Old news.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I unironically don't care how obsolete a plane is as long as it looks kino

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      F-86 upgrades when?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Weren't they using F-117 to train in anti-stealth ops since obviously we can't get a hand on the chinkoid "stealth" plane and need a mediocre stand-in for OpFor?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, they're being used in training exercises and possibly some sort of support role. And even in their current configuration the F117 is more advanced than many planes still in use around the world.
      As long as it is a cost effective platform for training in combat exercises and defense exercises then it will stay in use.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The lost one in Serbia still irks though. I hope heads rolled for failure to adhere to proper doctrine. Not the pilot obviously, didn't get get literally butthurt in his ejection?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The only thing the serbian incident proved was the limitations of stealth. You can make your planes as invisible as you want but if the enemy can figure out where the planes will be using logic and fill the sky with shrapnel before they get there it doesn't really matter.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          From what I can remember about it, the official explanation was that the tech was already obsolete in the late 90's and that the military deemed it as a minimal risk if the Russians got their hands on the wreckage. But keep in mind this was under the Clinton administration and they were corrupt through and through, not to mention incompetent. These were the same people that let Bin Laden escape, bombed a Asprin factory in Africa by mistake and then claimed it as a victory and allowed two embassies to be blown up, all while saying that right wing domestic terrorism was our biggest threat.
          I don't remember much about the pilot of the F117 other than he was very nearly captured before being rescued.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Still probably more advanced than anything the chinese or russians have made in the last 20 years.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That the best analog we can find for Russian and Chinese stealth capabilities is an outdated fifty year old plane

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