What are the advantages and disadvantages of muzzle brakes and compensators on pistols? And which is better?

What are the advantages and disadvantages of muzzle brakes and compensators on pistols?
And which is better?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They are equally inferior to the best muzzle device

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Not legal on pistols where I'm from

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Pros
      >decreased felt recoil/muzzle climb (if the gun cycles reliably)

      Cons
      >gun probably won't cycle reliably unless you start fucking with specific cartridge loads, spring weights, slide milling, etc
      >harder to find compatible holsters
      >although extremely rare, it has happened before on camera where a malfunction occurred because an empty case got stuck between the comp and slide as it was going back into battery
      >weight, if you care
      >increased noise and flash, if you care

      what said, gaylencers do everything a pistol comp would do but way better

      Not legal on pistols where I'm from

      what goal are you trying to achieve for your pistol

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >what goal are you trying to achieve for your pistol
        Mostly just wondering.
        Already bought a comp for my Beretta so I can also shoot in the "modified class" when out at competitions. Also bought different springs for it.
        Haven't tried it yet, though

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If it's for sport/competitions/fun/etc, then go for it
          It can be fun to dick with your gun and get it running but with a comp you'll have to do just that- dick with it. You'll have to do a fair amount of testing with different loads and spring weight combinations to see what's reliable for your gun

          Yeah basically all this. I'll also add that at typical handgun calibers it's kinda pointless, because merely doing something like adding a WML (ie, more weight forward) is going to reduce climb/felt recoil too without any incompatibilities and add some actual functionality. Dunno, maybe with outrageous stuff like 50AE or the like it'd start to be useful but it simply has lots of downsides and for anything normal semi-auto it's completely pointless, the recoil is easy to control already. That's why they're handgun calibers not rifle calibers.

          I suppose if fixed barrel designs were more common maybe that'd help too, but the only currently made ones off the top of my head are the alien and maxim. Former is in-line bore already as well as giggleexpensive, latter is integrally suppressed already.
          to find compatible holsters
          eh. Once you get into anything on end of an hg or even a lot of wmls you're already off into either open end or custom territory which with kydex is pretty easy these days, lots of places will mold you whatever. Or it's not even much work to just order some kydex sheets and do it yourself.

          >like adding a WML
          That's a good point I forgot about. OP, this will also help you reduce recoil and won't affect your guns reliability-- unless your gun is a polymer frame and you torque down the light way way too tight you could possibly have an issue.

          OP I own three X300-A's, one for my carry gun and two I move around on my other guns as I feel like. I picked the A model over the B for that reason- it holds on with a spring loaded "detent" i guess you'd call it that doesn't overly compress polymer frames, WAY faster to pop off and change the batteries versus having to unscrew the cross bolt the B model uses, and for my needs makes it way simpler to move around

          [...]

          to find compatible holsters
          >eh. Once you get into anything on end of an hg or even a lot of wmls you're already off into either open end or custom territory which with kydex is pretty easy these days, lots of places will mold you whatever. Or it's not even much work to just order some kydex sheets and do it yourself.

          It certainly is easier nowadays than it was before, but there are still holes in the market. Not every custom holster guy has every single possible blue gun with every single possible light and every single possible muzzle device so you still have to shop around a bit depending on your setup

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            OP, this will also help you reduce recoil and won't affect your guns reliability
            True. And I've also thought about it, since it has a pic-rail (Beretta M9A3), but I went with the comp because I hope it'll be as close to normal shooting as possible (aiming for consistency I guess). It's also the main reason I'm skipping red dot

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Forgot reddit-arrows. Sorry

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >It certainly is easier nowadays than it was before, but there are still holes in the market. Not every custom holster guy has every single possible blue gun with every single possible light and every single possible muzzle device so you still have to shop around a bit depending on your setup
            If you're lucky you have someone local (or at least within an hour or something). I know a bunch of custom places where for online orders you're right they need the form, but if you come in person with your handgun they will do literally anything at all, with that exact gun and setup. Obviously that'll vary by location though, if there is no one within 5 hours or whatever then that's painful.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Plus it sounds like OP doesn't live in Brandonstan so the number of custom kydex molders in his third world country is likely dramatically lower than what we have

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah basically all this. I'll also add that at typical handgun calibers it's kinda pointless, because merely doing something like adding a WML (ie, more weight forward) is going to reduce climb/felt recoil too without any incompatibilities and add some actual functionality. Dunno, maybe with outrageous stuff like 50AE or the like it'd start to be useful but it simply has lots of downsides and for anything normal semi-auto it's completely pointless, the recoil is easy to control already. That's why they're handgun calibers not rifle calibers.

        I suppose if fixed barrel designs were more common maybe that'd help too, but the only currently made ones off the top of my head are the alien and maxim. Former is in-line bore already as well as giggleexpensive, latter is integrally suppressed already.
        to find compatible holsters
        eh. Once you get into anything on end of an hg or even a lot of wmls you're already off into either open end or custom territory which with kydex is pretty easy these days, lots of places will mold you whatever. Or it's not even much work to just order some kydex sheets and do it yourself.

      • 1 month ago
        MilSurpDude

        Pretty much this, however I will say that while cans certainly do what a comp does better, the added bulk and weight cannot be discounted in any way, shape or form.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Quieter 10mm is actually intriguing to me, mostly because I have a G29 and have been meaning to pick up a comp'd KKM barrel, but could just as easily pick up a suppressor threaded KKM barrel.
      How does 10mm suppress, is it worth it, or is it kind of shit and difficult to do right without a giant can like 45?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Its still noisy, like 556 suppressed noisy, with supers, but subs are shockingly quiet, I imagine it is that way because they are similar to 45 ACP +P in terms of energy but smaller diameter.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Right on, thanks anon.
          I like the idea of using the heavyweight 220 grain rounds with a subsonic loading, probably gets you close to 45ACP muzzle energy with the right FPS.
          My experience with silenced 45 was kind of disappointing which is why I ask, I could never get it as quiet as I thought it should be compared to my buddy's silenced 9MM/300 Blackout cans and hosts.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            45 is known to be louder in general than 9mm

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, live and learn there. I could get close to my buddy's 9mm if I packed the tube with wire pulling gel, but the day he got his 300 blk and can for it I just about pulled the can and hucked it into the woods.
              It was just like..."what the fuck am I even doing" level in comparison.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How does someone fuck up a photograph this bad

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >fuck up
        ??????

        Right on, thanks anon.
        I like the idea of using the heavyweight 220 grain rounds with a subsonic loading, probably gets you close to 45ACP muzzle energy with the right FPS.
        My experience with silenced 45 was kind of disappointing which is why I ask, I could never get it as quiet as I thought it should be compared to my buddy's silenced 9MM/300 Blackout cans and hosts.

        fucking.... Xtreme bullets has 220 grain fmjs

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          NTA but it feels like too much stuff is cut off in the image. the light, rear sight, and the beavertail should be in frame. you'd only need to pull your camera little further away and wouldn't lose the detail of the water on the gun. other than that it's very nice to my untrained eye.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            clarification: I mean that all of those things should be FULLY in frame, obviously they are already partially in frame.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            clarification: I mean that all of those things should be FULLY in frame, obviously they are already partially in frame.

            they're specifically NOT supposed to be in the frame for this one

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    well the micro-comp i got noticeably reduced felt recoil without having to fuck with springs but let me tell you this thing blew huge clouds of shit back at me and when i was finished the front of my gun was absolutely coated in shit so get it if you want to leave the range looking like a coal miner and/or blackface enthusiast

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't mind getting dirty. I am a bit afraid of lead bullets, though. Having to clean off lead from it seems like a pain in the ass

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I use lead free myself with my suppressed guns (though no pistol comps). Frangible can be had (or at least used to) very cheap and is also lots of fun for training since you can shoot steel practically point blank with zero ricochet risk. Copper mono makes excellent edc ammo.

        Still wouldn't really want to get covered in powder for nothing though.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it looks cool, that's about it

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >advantages
    Less Recoil
    Looks Tacticool
    >disadvantages
    Doesn't fit holsters
    Louder
    Looks Tacticool

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